Remember the days of Hazard. 9.9 times out of 10, he beats his man. Only stopped by getting fouled. This Garanacho fella just gets locked down like every other winger we've had in recent years

3 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

Remember the days of Hazard. 9.9 times out of 10, he beats his man. Only stopped by getting fouled. This Garanacho fella just gets locked down like every other winger we've had in recent years

We could all see this during his time at United.

No employee in our normal world would survive in his position anymore if he was having the same output as the sporting directors do at Chelsea. Criminal if they are still in charge past this summer.

4 hours ago, Valerie said:

The upgrade that is Nico Jackson will probably return from loan this summer. Huzzah!

Getting wet dreams already

I was abroad these lazt 5 days and taking in the sights of rural parts of Lithuania. To ny surprise I saw what appeared to be a bucket of sh*t in a field. Even more surprising is how much it reminded me of Garnacho. Only the bucket meant I could tell them apart.

Yes Neto is also sh*t, as is Fernandez, a big chunk of our defence, our goalkeeper and most of our strikers.

However this is the Garnacho thread and he is, without doubt, utterly out of his depth in any top flight team. What is more annoying is that was obvious when he was at United and we still bought him.

When you are in a squad consisting of Estevao, Neto, Gittens, Mudryk and Garnacho and you are the worst winger of the 5 despite one having one operational hamstring and one being an extra on 'Zammo, My Biggest Smack on the Nose', then you truly are on football's sh*tpile.

O'Reilly's a LB and he's wayy better than this scrub

7 hours ago, Valerie said:

The upgrade that is Nico Jackson will probably return from loan this summer. Huzzah!

Just scored again for Bayern. He actually has a decent goal tally this season for the amount of minutes he's played.

2 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Just scored again for Bayern. He actually has a decent goal tally this season for the amount of minutes he's played.

Double huzzah!

Yesterday, Garnacho’s was one of the worst performances from any Chelsea player in a long time.

The team kept passing to him which surprised me.

Not worth a quarter of what we paid for him.

11 hours ago, Jangz said:

Garnacho is a worse sancho.. sancho has no pace and a poor shot but he could dribble and create space .. Garnacho can’t run with the ball in a straight line.. embarrassing..

Having said that neto was abysmal too.. don’t remember him taking his man on even once during the game.. over hit and under hit corners and crosses .. also let his man go for the goal.. walking about on the pitch when we were a goal down..

the entire team was bereft of quality and passion.. thankyou BLUECO .. you fck min mugs .. these SDs who bought him actually gave themselves a raise.. in a summer where we could have had Eze , Kudos and semenyo we ended up with gittens and Garnacho… we also sold possible upgrades in madueke and nico .. crazy these fck faces are a disgrace and an embarrassment .. cheating c**ts ..

Not all wingers need to be 1x1 machines and Neto was never that player, so perhaps a problem with expectations?

There were no outstanding performances, but Neto had a good game for me—garnacho did not.

The two excellent crosses that hit the bar came from him. There was another perfect cross missed by Delap. Also remember another lob pass — thought gusto should’ve done better there. In short don’t think he was “abysmal” at all.

It’s interesting that when garnacho has a poor game Neto comes up.

9 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Just scored again for Bayern. He actually has a decent goal tally this season for the amount of minutes he's played.

Let's be real, it's difficult not to score in this Bayern Munich squad, his teammates have enough resources to provide him with plenty of scoring chances.

🤦

I am assuming Winstanley is sacked this summer then?

12 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

🤦

I am assuming Winstanley is sacked this summer then?

His contract extension post-CWC was till 2031. I shiver.

Presumably we will send him off to River Plate for a massive loss.

No reason to play him anymore IMO.

The less we see of him maybe then maybe some team somewhere will forget how bad he is will take him off our hands in the summer.

Don't even put him in the shop window or he'll never be sold - play Jesse Derry instead I say.

Some players stock rises the less we see them play, that's the tactic to sell him.

His book value will be £32 million in the summer.

Do we get that from anyone because I’m not seeing anything like that even when you consider winger fees in the EPL like Madueke and Elanga.

Maybe a low fee with larger achievable add ons.

20 hours ago, acaeus said:

Not all wingers need to be 1x1 machines and Neto was never that player, so perhaps a problem with expectations?

There were no outstanding performances, but Neto had a good game for me—garnacho did not.

The two excellent crosses that hit the bar came from him. There was another perfect cross missed by Delap. Also remember another lob pass — thought gusto should’ve done better there. In short don’t think he was “abysmal” at all.

It’s interesting that when garnacho has a poor game Neto comes up.

He slowed the game down - struggled against a 50 year old Luke shaw… he was sold as a pact winger not a tactician like Willian .. refuse to see how he had a good /better game - lost the ball countless time - tried to hide away and also cost us the goal when we were 10 men defending .. very average player.

42 minutes ago, 19seventyone said:

His book value will be £32 million in the summer.

Do we get that from anyone because I’m not seeing anything like that even when you consider winger fees in the EPL like Madueke and Elanga.

Maybe a low fee with larger achievable add ons.

It will be a loan to Napoli or Atletico with buy option.

Shame about him really! I really wanted him to do well.

2 hours ago, Jangz said:

He slowed the game down - struggled against a 50 year old Luke shaw… he was sold as a pact winger not a tactician like Willian .. refuse to see how he had a good /better game - lost the ball countless time - tried to hide away and also cost us the goal when we were 10 men defending .. very average player.

I think that mostly comes down to personal preference. I specifically listed things Neto did that Garnacho didn’t — that’s not opinion, that’s just what happened in the match. Juan Mata was a left winger who barely took players 1v1, but he could curl one or pick out a runner from anywhere. Neto did that at least three times in this game. Garnacho didn’t.

With that said, it’s perfectly fine not to like a player, whether it’s about style or quality. I just find it odd that Garnacho rarely seems to get blamed on his own — Neto somehow gets dragged down with him for no clear reason around here.

3 hours ago, Jangz said:

He slowed the game down - struggled against a 50 year old Luke shaw… he was sold as a pact winger not a tactician like Willian .. refuse to see how he had a good /better game - lost the ball countless time - tried to hide away and also cost us the goal when we were 10 men defending .. very average player.

This is honestly not true. Neto was our most dangerous player. I am not saying he had a quality game but he was not abysmal by any stretch. I would say he was better than Palmer. He was 100% better than Garnacho. Garnacho was terrible and lost the ball countless times. Neto did not. Put in at least two quality crosses and did not actually lose the ball much. But because people like to criticise they will say he was sh*t. Neto was not sh*t and in watching the game he was the only one who was actually providing some threat. Like I say, not saying Neto had a good game but thought he was actually decent. To draw similarities between his and Garnacho's is ridiculous.

3 hours ago, Jangz said:

He slowed the game down - struggled against a 50 year old Luke shaw… he was sold as a pact winger not a tactician like Willian .. refuse to see how he had a good /better game - lost the ball countless time - tried to hide away and also cost us the goal when we were 10 men defending .. very average player.

I'm confused - are you talking about Garnacho or Neto there?

Garnacho was largely responsible for the United goal not Neto.

6 hours ago, Nibs said:

I'm confused - are you talking about Garnacho or Neto there?

Garnacho was largely responsible for the United goal not Neto.

If you see the goal replay - Neto sees Cunha and decides to not react .. he let’s Cunha literally run past him.. yes Garnacho could have done better against Bruno but Neto basically gave up on his defensive duty.

6 hours ago, STATS said:

This is honestly not true. Neto was our most dangerous player. I am not saying he had a quality game but he was not abysmal by any stretch. I would say he was better than Palmer. He was 100% better than Garnacho. Garnacho was terrible and lost the ball countless times. Neto did not. Put in at least two quality crosses and did not actually lose the ball much. But because people like to criticise they will say he was sh*t. Neto was not sh*t and in watching the game he was the only one who was actually providing some threat. Like I say, not saying Neto had a good game but thought he was actually decent. To draw similarities between his and Garnacho's is ridiculous.

Two things can be true at the same time- yes he put in a couple of crosses - but he had umpteen of opportunities to test a make shift back 4 but chose to do nothing.. Garnacho is championship level but Neto was also average - being the best of a bad bunch doesn’t mean anything for me. When he came to the club we were told he was a direct player and one can see that once he wants to he can run at a defence but just think either he is too tired or has given up.

Garnacho is championship level but Neto season after season flatters to deceive - never puts up the numbers and has no business being a starter for a ucl chasing club.

6 hours ago, STATS said:

This is honestly not true. Neto was our most dangerous player. I am not saying he had a quality game but he was not abysmal by any stretch. I would say he was better than Palmer. He was 100% better than Garnacho. Garnacho was terrible and lost the ball countless times. Neto did not. Put in at least two quality crosses and did not actually lose the ball much. But because people like to criticise they will say he was sh*t. Neto was not sh*t and in watching the game he was the only one who was actually providing some threat. Like I say, not saying Neto had a good game but thought he was actually decent. To draw similarities between his and Garnacho's is ridiculous.

Every attacker got an F, getting an E isn't really considered a good thing

14 hours ago, STATS said:

This is honestly not true. Neto was our most dangerous player. I am not saying he had a quality game but he was not abysmal by any stretch. I would say he was better than Palmer. He was 100% better than Garnacho. Garnacho was terrible and lost the ball countless times. Neto did not. Put in at least two quality crosses and did not actually lose the ball much. But because people like to criticise they will say he was sh*t. Neto was not sh*t and in watching the game he was the only one who was actually providing some threat. Like I say, not saying Neto had a good game but thought he was actually decent. To draw similarities between his and Garnacho's is ridiculous.

Complete lies, they were both w**k.

Possession lost - Garnacho (15 times) Neto (15 times)

Dribbles - Garnacho 6 attempted 3 completed Neto 0 attempted 0 completed

How are you a winger and incapable of attempting a dribble. If we wanted someone to float a sh*t ball into the box we should have offered Marc Albrighton a contract.