6 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Do people still think Maresca was doing a bad job in hindsight?

Had he stayed we'd likely have finished top 4, 5th at worst. Now we'll be lucky to get Conference League.

I think many disliked our style of play under Maresca but the players (perhaps with the odd exception) were on his side. The bad run after the Arsenal game that led to him leaving still included a win over Everton and more draws than defeats. I think the damage there was done in the summer window when Clearlake wouldn't back him with a replacement CB once Colwill got injured. But in hindsight the bigger mistake was probably refusing to consider Poch's requests. He had made decent progress with the side and had us playing watchable football a lot of the time.

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Rumors he was shaking hands with all the back room staff.

McFarland rest of the season 💀

I cannot see the point of that if so. He is part of Rosenior's coaching team and I doubt the players respect him any more than they do Rosenior. So yes that is probably exactly what they will do ;)

5 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Do people still think Maresca was doing a bad job in hindsight?

Had he stayed we'd likely have finished top 4, 5th at worst. Now we'll be lucky to get Conference League.

I'll concede that Maresca did a good job protecting the defence, albeit it did come with pedestrian football. I hope everyone now realizes how truly shambolic our defence is, because I remember I had several arguments with certain members in August about how losing Colwill and not bringing anyone would basically end our season. Internal Solutions we were told.

There's no way in would be any worse had we kept Maresca, and in all honesty finishing in the Top 5 again wouldn't of been out of the ordinary considering we were in a similar situation last year and he turned it around in April.

I'm still not going to pretend the players playing out of position, sh*t game management and constant rotation wasn't god awful. Maresca was never the answer long term as the only thing he's adapted from his original philosophy is having Sanchez kicking it long.

10 minutes ago, forbzy said:

I think many disliked our style of play under Maresca but the players (perhaps with the odd exception) were on his side. The bad run after the Arsenal game that led to him leaving still included a win over Everton and more draws than defeats. I think the damage there was done in the summer window when Clearlake wouldn't back him with a replacement CB once Colwill got injured. But in hindsight the bigger mistake was probably refusing to consider Poch's requests. He had made decent progress with the side and had us playing watchable football a lot of the time.

The only correct hindsight was not hiring Enrique.

But then again, this is all moot considering the team these two sh*t head directors assembled.

Rosenior: “Three or four players from that starting eleven lacked determination”

20mins in, and I knew we were not winning the game. If he knew this, why not sub them at half time? The bench he is putting out is not helping him, it’s like he is trying to keep players on his side.

Still think he will see out the season. Pointless getting an interim manager when there is really nothing to play for.

31 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Do people still think Maresca was doing a bad job in hindsight?

Had he stayed we'd likely have finished top 4, 5th at worst. Now we'll be lucky to get Conference League.

It wouldn't have derailed this badly, he probably would have won us 1 or 2 of these recent games, but the signs were there that we were heading in a similar direction and I think a top 5 finish would have been a tough ask. Look at his results after the Barcelona game, he was sitting on 1 win in 9 before he quit. The whole season has been heading in this direction. Right from the first game against Palace, you could see that something was off.

2 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Do people still think Maresca was doing a bad job in hindsight?

Had he stayed we'd likely have finished top 4, 5th at worst. Now we'll be lucky to get Conference League.

He wanted to leave and weren't we 8th or 9th when he left?

Edited April 22Apr 22 by Bob stark

Welp who would've have thought? A manager with a poor cv who's completely out of his depth and doesn't have a commanding presence over his players in the dressing room has lost us 5 in a row.

This is on on those blueco twats. Another spectacular failure of theirs.

Get this clown out of the club and make the people who thought it was a good idea to appoint him follow suit. Sick of this sh*t!

Edited April 22Apr 22 by BlauweReetAap

3 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Do people still think Maresca was doing a bad job in hindsight?

Had he stayed we'd likely have finished top 4, 5th at worst. Now we'll be lucky to get Conference League.

Unquestionably yes, and I say this as someone who defended him until the last. His position was untenable and from a football perspective the same problems we had under Maresca are rearing their ugly head under Rosenior.

That Rosenior has been unable to arrest the slide is a symptom of the malaise at this club right now, not its cause.

3 hours ago, forbzy said:

I think many disliked our style of play under Maresca but the players (perhaps with the odd exception) were on his side.

I really don't think we should underplay this though, because the odd exceptions included Palmer (cf his comments after Betis) and Joao Pedro, who are two of our only three functional attackers.

6 hours ago, Carloseyebrow said:

I’m not sure he had much of a choice completely agree. He’s clearly not up to it, the players are not buying in.

What I’d like to say is he’s just a bloke trying his best, it’s not good enough but that’s not his fault it’s the decision to appoint him and those before him that need questioning.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a man look as shook as him, it’s not a good thing.

Couldn’t agree more

18 hours ago, Deino said:

*Some. Great managers very often have personal teams that are good at talent and character identification .

I've begun to think most fans tend to overrate a managers' job scope. I now judge managers based on how they structure their coaching staff and how they align with their club's directors.

19 hours ago, dermott said:

Tell Pep that. Not much happens at City without his say so.

Manager is a terrible SD because if he has time watching estevao playing for Palmeiras, he is not spending his time wisely.

Edited April 22Apr 22 by Bob stark

4 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Do people still think Maresca was doing a bad job in hindsight?

Had he stayed we'd likely have finished top 4, 5th at worst. Now we'll be lucky to get Conference League.

4 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Do people still think Maresca was doing a bad job in hindsight?

Had he stayed we'd likely have finished top 4, 5th at worst. Now we'll be lucky to get Conference League.

Maresca was heading in the same direction tbh. The team probably wouldn't have melted down after the PSG game; we probably would have just been losing by more "Respectable" scorelines. Liam just sped run the demise of this club after losing the dressing room.

1 hour ago, Bob stark said:

Manager is a terrible SD because if he has time watching estevao playing for Palmeiras, he is not spending his time wisely.

You do know that good managers have teams of people that sift through reports and footage provided by the club's scouting network, yes?

21 hours ago, dermott said:

Tell Pep that. Not much happens at City without his say so.

Pep doesn’t have a say anymore with Hugo Viana; with Txiki Begiristain, Yes he was in control. You just have to look at City’s signings in the last 12 mths to see that. He wanted Savinho gone, and not only was he overruled but they also gave him a new contract.

The one thing that remains constant though that if it’s working out, they bin the signing immediately. Marmoush and Reijnders are on their way out.

8 hours ago, Carloseyebrow said:

I’m not sure he had much of a choice completely agree. He’s clearly not up to it, the players are not buying in.

What I’d like to say is he’s just a bloke trying his best, it’s not good enough but that’s not his fault it’s the decision to appoint him and those before him that need questioning.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a man look as shook as him, it’s not a good thing.

I understand where you're coming from but I disagree.

You can be not good enough but nobody told him to waffle on interviews or bring his own team from Strasbourg. He could have came in with a specific objective or building siege mentality or brought in JT or talked to retired world class coaches etc.

With resources available from a multibillion dollar institution, there's actually so much more that could have been done. Instead, he leans on lessons from his dad, Rooney, his coaching staff and 5 directors all whom have never managed at this level.

6 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Do people still think Maresca was doing a bad job in hindsight?

Had he stayed we'd likely have finished top 4, 5th at worst. Now we'll be lucky to get Conference League.

I've said it before, just because Rosenior is the worst appointment in Chelsea history if doesn't mean that Maresca was good enough either.

6 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Do people still think Maresca was doing a bad job in hindsight?

Had he stayed we'd likely have finished top 4, 5th at worst. Now we'll be lucky to get Conference League.

I always thought he was doing a decent job. What’s gone on since he’s left 100% confirms it.

It was pretty obvious at the time too considering he’d improved the teams league position and won 2 trophies including beating PSG 3-0 lol.

This place was like an alternate reality echo chamber during his tenure.

9 hours ago, 2211 said:

It was a tough watch, I actually felt sorry for him TBH.

The players have thrown in the towel tonight.

And this never should be forgotten - the players were a disgrace!

You have to feel a little bit sorry for him but this thing he keeps doing of bringing on Acheampong in the dying minutes, when the game is already lost, means I have little sympathy for him. That is NO WAY to treat one of your best young players who should be starting games, NOT coming on in the 92nd minute when we are 0-3 down.

Went to bed straight after the game and got up at 5.20am this morning, fully expecting to be met with the news that he has left the club. Just put the guy out of his misery FFS.

24 hours ago was we could win 5 in a row, then it was this. Brighton was kind, could have easily been 4 or 5. I thought we might have got a point before the game, I mean 4 loses on the trot was pretty rock bottom, surely we could only get better, guess I was wrong. Surely, we can't lose 6 in a row without a goal, right?

So he went at the players yesterday. Good. Now, as it seems as he's still here: if there's anything to him, he'll change almost the entire team vs Leeds, even if it makes us weaker on paper. Its his last and only chance to take charge of the squad again if he's indeed going to stay here (he's not)

Is it likely to work? No. But what I do know is that doing the same thing over again is 100% not gonna yield different results.

So lets throw at least Josh, Sarr, Santos and Derry in there. Guiu or Mheuka as well if Pedro isn't fit. No Garnacho. No Fofana. Enzo should NOT be captain.

If its the same again, he's lost

I am surprised many think calling out player is a good thing. It is bad, once you lose the dressing room. It is over.

Chelsea are unlikely to sack Liam Rosenior after their defeat to Brighton, and look set to give him five games to turn things around.

But he is under serious pressure, and Chelsea have contingency plans in place.

~ @GraemeBailey

Hmm..this doesn’t fill me with confidence.

Get rid, we can’t go into Leeds game like this.

3 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

I am surprised many think calling out player is a good thing. It is bad, once you lose the dressing room. It is over.

He lost the dressing room some time back. When the players were as inept as they were last night, they HAVE to be called out.