The sporting directors need to go before Rosenior. They have decimated the squad by signing Burnley level players.

They are the ones who have completely ruined the club. Yes, Rosenior isn’t good enough but it’s not his fault we have useless players like Garnacho, Neto etc.

I can’t see Rosenior staying but I don’t think the next manager is going to be any better. The only way we can actually improve is sack the sporting directors, rebuild again under one who actually has a clue about what he’s doing.

4 minutes ago, Nibs said:

He lost the dressing room some time back. When the players were as inept as they were last night, they HAVE to be called out.

I don't care about fans complaining about player. But Manager start calling out player is just dumb. Spurs hired tough guy Igor Tudor an he lasted only 1 month.

5 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

The sporting directors need to go before Rosenior. They have decimated the squad by signing Burnley level players.

They are the ones who have completely ruined the club. Yes, Rosenior isn’t good enough but it’s not his fault we have useless players like Garnacho, Neto etc.

I can’t see Rosenior staying but I don’t think the next manager is going to be any better. The only way we can actually improve is sack the sporting directors, rebuild again under one who actually has a clue about what he’s doing.

Someone needs to be accountable for this whole sh*t show. How on earth can a club spend the money we have and then you look at our bench and see names like

Garnacho, Tosin, Derry, Guiu, Sharman-Lowe etc. Despite spending billions, we appear to have no match-winners or game changers in the entire squad.

Edited April 22Apr 22 by Nibs

I would get rid of Rosenior immediately. He has no track record, no gravitas, no respect from the squad, little tactical nouse and his pathetic pressers are driving me mad.

That said, I still think that this entire debacle lays at the feet of Stewart and Winstanley. They are trying to turn Chelsea into Brighton, except that we are not nearly that good. Their shocking recruitment of players, coaching staff and Managers is frightening. Surely, they cannot be allowed to continue?? I would really love to hear/know what the owners think of these idiots' performance in their time at the Club. In every Blue Chip company, staff have an annual performance review, so you would expect that Blueco do a similar thing with all Senior Management. I would love Boehly and or Egbhali to be really honest and tell us the Fans what they really think. They never will though, as S&W have been 100% derelict in their duties from day one and the Owners have let them continue un-opposed and here we are today.

If this continues, this time next year, we will be where Spurs are now or worse.

17 minutes ago, Nibs said:

He lost the dressing room some time back. When the players were as inept as they were last night, they HAVE to be called out.

Exactly. It's not a good thing we're at the stage where he's calling out the players but what other option is left. He now absolutely has to follow up with major changes to the starting lineup, we'll see what happens

8 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

The sporting directors need to go before Rosenior. They have decimated the squad by signing Burnley level players.

They are the ones who have completely ruined the club. Yes, Rosenior isn’t good enough but it’s not his fault we have useless players like Garnacho, Neto etc.

I can’t see Rosenior staying but I don’t think the next manager is going to be any better. The only way we can actually improve is sack the sporting directors, rebuild again under one who actually has a clue about what he’s doing.

This.

People will say about Glasner, Iraola etc… being available.

As good as they are they might not get the level of performances we are getting lately but you can’t turn water into wine and even a top manager working with those players can only do so much.

1 - SD’s should be sacked

2 - managers should be allowed to play who they want, how they want, when they want and train them how they want (I firmly believe the SD’s control most of that)

3 - buy better players and more experienced players

Address these 3 issues and then there might be hope for the future but neglect any or all of them then no manager in the world can turn these players into a top team challenging for trophies.

A fish rots from the head as they say.

Edited April 22Apr 22 by 2211

21 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Chelsea are unlikely to sack Liam Rosenior after their defeat to Brighton, and look set to give him five games to turn things around.

But he is under serious pressure, and Chelsea have contingency plans in place.

~ @GraemeBailey

Hmm..this doesn’t fill me with confidence.

Get rid, we can’t go into Leeds game like this.

All that says to me is that they don't have any caretaker contingency plan.

21 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

I am surprised many think calling out player is a good thing. It is bad, once you lose the dressing room. It is over.

It was a raw, unfiltered reaction from a devastated man. The likes of which you rarely if ever see. Speaks to his emotional and mental state.

3 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Manager is a terrible SD because if he has time watching estevao playing for Palmeiras, he is not spending his time wisely.

Did video pass you by? Betamax? VHS?

1 minute ago, AndyDowsleftflank said:

Exactly. It's not a good thing we're at the stage where he's calling out the players but what other option is left. He now absolutely has to follow up with major changes to the starting lineup, we'll see what happens

Exactly.

He was right to call the players out.

He should have done it weeks ago in fact.

He’s called them out because he’s on the verge of being sacked and protecting those players has backfired and made him look even weaker.

28 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Chelsea are unlikely to sack Liam Rosenior after their defeat to Brighton, and look set to give him five games to turn things around.

But he is under serious pressure, and Chelsea have contingency plans in place.

~ @GraemeBailey

Hmm..this doesn’t fill me with confidence.

Get rid, we can’t go into Leeds game like this.

Who is Graeme Bailey? Anyway, he also goes on to say we are in for Anthony Gordon. Pinch of salt time.

Under Roman he would have never been hired in the first place and if he had been, he would have been long gone before now.

We are in such a financial mess that I imagine we have to wait until we mathematically can’t qualify for the Champions League to then get rid of him without having to pay him off from his 6 year deal.

What a mess.

57 minutes ago, Nibs said:

You have to feel a little bit sorry for him but this thing he keeps doing of bringing on Acheampong in the dying minutes, when the game is already lost, means I have little sympathy for him. That is NO WAY to treat one of your best young players who should be starting games, NOT coming on in the 92nd minute when we are 0-3 down.

I said in the match thread yesterday of all we had to put up as fans during the game that pi**ed me off the most.

That is literally taking the mick out of Josh by bringing him on in those circumstances!

This club is all about protecting its investments rather than picking players who deserve to play.

If Liam has anything about him after calling the players out then realistically there should be at least four or five changes for the Leeds match, including minutes for Josh, Jesse Derry, Sarr etc…

If the changes just mean Tosin starts then his rant was pointless and he might as well continued with his “we have fantastic players” nonsense instead.

42 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Chelsea are unlikely to sack Liam Rosenior after their defeat to Brighton, and look set to give him five games to turn things around.

But he is under serious pressure, and Chelsea have contingency plans in place.

~ @GraemeBailey

Hmm..this doesn’t fill me with confidence.

Get rid, we can’t go into Leeds game like this.

How can LR "turn things around" hes only in charge of a very small part of the process and decision making. Certainly not team selection - or usage of a player across the entire 90 minutes. He'd have to be a miracle worker.

21 minutes ago, dermott said:

It was a raw, unfiltered reaction from a devastated man. The likes of which you rarely if ever see. Speaks to his emotional and mental state.

If I was the interviewer, I don't think I could have resisted saying "so you're admitting the players were all poor and at fault tonight and yet only a couple of weeks ago you kept taking about working with an incredible group of players - so what's happened exactly?!!"

5 minutes ago, Nibs said:

If I was the interviewer, I don't think I could have resisted saying "so you're admitting the players were all poor and at fault tonight and yet only a couple of weeks ago you kept taking about working with an incredible group of players - so what's happened exactly?!!"

Congrats. You pass the TalkSport audition.

I think that we've got a very average team, in most positions anyway, and I don't expect this team to perform at a high level. But, how can he be throwing the players under the bus when he set them up as he did in the first half? They looked lost, they didn't know what they were supposed to be doing or where they were supposed to be playing. Did LR seriously thought that suddenly changing the formation would help the team?

The rot is set. All need to go. The board need to sell, they came to show us how things could be done better and all they've shown us is how inept they are; their plan needs to be flushed down the toilet where it belongs; their SDs need to be burned on the stake; LR needs to go and apply for an office job, he's not good at football but does nice pwt presentations; and the majority of the players need to be sent to the Turkish league to learn to put an effort or get hell from their fans.

2 minutes ago, RMH said:

I think that we've got a very average team, in most positions anyway, and I don't expect this team to perform at a high level. But, how can he be throwing the players under the bus when he set them up as he did in the first half? They looked lost, they didn't know what they were supposed to be doing or where they were supposed to be playing. Did LR seriously thought that suddenly changing the formation would help the team?

The rot is set. All need to go. The board need to sell, they came to show us how things could be done better and all they've shown us is how inept they are; their plan needs to be flushed down the toilet where it belongs; their SDs need to be burned on the stake; LR needs to go and apply for an office job, he's not good at football but does nice pwt presentations; and the majority of the players need to be sent to the Turkish league to learn to put an effort or get hell from their fans.

All players look average when they have lost as many games in a row as we have.

The truth is a proper coach, with a decent set up, would still be able to get a tune out of this team. We should be strolling 70 points in a season with this group of players.

33 minutes ago, 2211 said:

Exactly.

He was right to call the players out.

He should have done it weeks ago in fact.

He’s called them out because he’s on the verge of being sacked and protecting those players has backfired and made him look even weaker.

I absolutely agree but he should have had the sense to see that playing Fofana after his public show of dissent who then basically dialled it in for the whole game, and playing Chalobah so soon from his injury and with this leg strapped whilst excluding Acheampong, oh and then playing 5 atb, was basically suicidal tactics. It the problem with being a pe teacher, Ted Lasso, manager. No perception or self awareness

1 minute ago, bisright1 said:

All players look average when they have lost as many games in a row as we have.

The truth is a proper coach, with a decent set up, would still be able to get a tune out of this team. We should be strolling 70 points in a season with this group of players.

With some astute acquisitions in certain areas, i'd agree. Problem is, our SDs couldn't find their arseholes with a mirror

3 hours ago, markpitts said:

He didn’t have to put out that bench though; no sane person sticks 3 defenders and 3 DMs on the bench. This has been an ongoing issue with our subs bench even under Maresca. Either the managers aren’t bold enough to make the call, or the SDs are calling the shots. You look at Utd bench, and Malacia is the only defender on the bench. Carrick started 19yr old Heaven, stuck 2 midfielders from the U21s , and a winger from their U21s on the bench. We currently have our U18s and U21s dominating their respective youth leagues. He could have dropped a defender and a DM, and added 2 creative players from our youth team. It just seems we are more interested in keeping player values up than winning games.

He never should have been given the job, I can only assume as someone posted earlier they are waiting for a contract clause to kick in so they can bin him for free.

SD’s have to follow. This pain will be worth it only when that happens.

Dreading Leeds.

13 minutes ago, RMH said:

I think that we've got a very average team, in most positions anyway, and I don't expect this team to perform at a high level. But, how can he be throwing the players under the bus when he set them up as he did in the first half? They looked lost, they didn't know what they were supposed to be doing or where they were supposed to be playing. Did LR seriously thought that suddenly changing the formation would help the team?

The rot is set. All need to go. The board need to sell, they came to show us how things could be done better and all they've shown us is how inept they are; their plan needs to be flushed down the toilet where it belongs; their SDs need to be burned on the stake; LR needs to go and apply for an office job, he's not good at football but does nice pwt presentations; and the majority of the players need to be sent to the Turkish league to learn to put an effort or get hell from their fans.

Precisely. If he wanted to throw them under the bus, it should have been against Everton or Utd.

Calling the players out now after giving Enzo the captaincy immediately after the suspension, the sudden formation change, the nonsensical sub of Acheampong for 2 minutes, the rest of the subs, picking Fofana again and again? Like, come on now

I actually feel a bit sorry for the bloke.

He did a great job at Derby, was unfairly sacked at Hull and was really starting to make Strasbourg into a side to challenge.

BlueCo f**ked all that up, forced him by all accounts to take the Chelsea job, which is FAR too big for him.

He doesn’t have the playing pedigree of a Super Frank or JT to come in and instantly get the respect of the dressing room, he did nothing in his playing career of note.

He doesn’t have the managerial prowess of a Klopp or even an Emery to come in and get the squads backing based on his previous accomplishments

We’ve World Cup winners, Champions League winners expecting to take tactical instructions from someone who played most his career in the Championship/Lower Prem and his Management career in a similar vein.

It was never going to work from the off and along with derailing a Management career that was on an upward trajectory it’s also entirely destroyed any semblance of a POTENTIAL CL qualifying squad.

We’ll finish bottom half, be out the FA Cup at the Semis and give Spurs the points to stay up.

Catastrophic end to the season and the blame lies solely at Chris Bryant’s treacherous shoes.

I got nothing but ridicule when I called it as is when he was appointed.

An absolute clown who's done nothing in the game and shouldn't even be able to get a Premier League job, nevermind a job at Chelsea.

Doesn't take a PhD to see that hiring someone worse than Maresca (quite a feat in itself) is only going to lead to worse results and performances.

It's scandalous that there are people who have managed to make billions in their lives then go on to make decisions like these, any tool down at the local pub could've told you this was a bad decision. The season was over for me the day Rosenior was picked as the successor, the mild bits of hype I saw on here and online just seemed incredibly forced in spite of Maresca's poor football.

Just stop with the silly experiments and just get someone with at least a good track record for god sakes, you know someone who's actually earned the chance to work at Chelsea football club, it's not a learning centre for up and coming managers.

Edited April 22Apr 22 by Victor90

9 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Hmm not really, it just mean he lost the dressing room and if you lose the dressing room, you need to pack your bag

Ive lost this dressing room. Starting to become very dificult to be positive about the squad, its appalling that young men cant apply effort. I do not want to see the racist, vaper and sh*t pint sized winger at the club next season. I dont want to see half the players collecting wags, and tbh, palmer has been gash for longer than he was good, so selling him might well allow us to rebuild a squad of players who care more about performances then themselves. Its a mess, and after giving Brighton hundreds of millions of pounds they now sit above us in the league, well run club on the south coast.

8 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Do people still think Maresca was doing a bad job in hindsight?

Had he stayed we'd likely have finished top 4, 5th at worst. Now we'll be lucky to get Conference League.

Thank god that dogsh*t manager has gone. No, I dont think we would have finished top four with him, the football blueprint he laid out is dire and LR is just another copy of a copy. Probably best to just hope the board all go on holiday together and the plane crashes.