On 25/06/2022 at 19:56, The Rising Sun said:

 

 The programme should include a couple of pages of high finance next season.

Starting with " short selling " 

And then " shirt selling " CR7 ?

I thought the Boehly - Mendes meeting was merely him tapping up the agent to talk about the intricacies of dealing with purchasing players in Europe, seeing as Boehly is stepping into the interim DoF role.  The CR7 talk was merely a courtesy of that meeting 

Posted last night:

Edited June 28, 20224 yr by SW6Blue

6 minutes ago, SW6Blue said:

Posted last night:

Just get it done if he is who Thomas wants.

Apparently Tuchel was keen on Ake even when he was at Dortmund. Hence the interest now. 
 

Has anyone seen Ale recently? He seems decent but doesn’t strike me as TOP quality but I could be wrong. 

Ake is short

 

 

1 hour ago, ozboy said:

Ake is short

On Ake can't help wonder about Alonso, would Ake be back up for Chilwell rather than LCB.

Might be for both positions though do agree he would not be the preferred option.

A lot of talk about MDL and with Werner thrown in.

If the idea behind the Ake transfer is premier league experience, can we pick someone who actually has premier league playing experience not just watching from the bench experience.

ake would be nice because he can play in the left 

38 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

On Ake can't help wonder about Alonso, would Ake be back up for Chilwell rather than LCB.

Might be for both positions though do agree he would not be the preferred option.

A lot of talk about MDL and with Werner thrown in.

I would prefer to keep Werner personally.

It is a good idea to use one of our unwanted players as a makeweight, but I would rather it was someone else.

If he could just learn to time his runs better, I think he could be the player for us we thought he would be.

He's also had some unbelievable bad luck, so surely it's got to turn sometime, and I don't want another club to benefit from that. 

Also, with that fat lump Lukaku gone, that could also have a positive effect on him.

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29 minutes ago, Mário César said:

ake would be nice because he can play in the left 

I used to watch Ake a lot when he played for our youth and I always thought he was a class act.

Not sure if he's at the standard we need now, but if the reports are true, TT rates him and I'm sure he knows a lot more than me!

2 hours ago, Bluesince66 said:

Just get it done if he is who Thomas wants.

Be careful what you wish for. We have also been linked with Zinchenko today. Pep/City surely doesn’t  rate Tuchel if they are allowing him to buy their castoffs, and we are helping them in rebuilding their team

I don't think Ake would make a good wing back. We need good attackers on the flanks, not a centre back who can also play fullback.

If we get him for a good price this might make sense though. He's experienced, versatile and according to bluemoon he seems to have come on quite nicely for them, at least most of them don't want him to leave. On top of that he'd be HG if I remember correctly

2 hours ago, JM7 said:

Apparently Tuchel was keen on Ake even when he was at Dortmund. Hence the interest now. 
 

Has anyone seen Ale recently? He seems decent but doesn’t strike me as TOP quality but I could be wrong. 

He isn’t. The only thing he has going for him is he plays for Pep. City will also be looking for a profit on the £41m they paid for him (£50m is the set fee). It is just a lazy approach in the market, you shouldn’t be paying that much for a 4th choice defender. City will take that money & buy either Cucurella or Guehi. 
As for his versatility; Ampadu is equally versatile, has racked up more game time on loan this season, and has a higher ceiling IMO. If he wants a CB with PL experience, then buy back Guehi who has a higher ceiling and will most likely end up at either City/Liverpool.

Ake would be such an underwhelming signing. He's really nothing special at all. 

4 minutes ago, ducavis said:

He isn’t. The only thing he has going for him is he plays for Pep. City will also be looking for a profit on the £41m they paid for him (£50m is the set fee). It is just a lazy approach in the market, you shouldn’t be paying that much for a 4th choice defender. City will take that money & buy either Cucurella or Guehi. 
As for his versatility; Ampadu is equally versatile, has racked up more game time on loan this season, and has a higher ceiling IMO. If he wants a CB with PL experience, then buy back Guehi who has a higher ceiling and will most likely end up at either City/Liverpool.

Come on now. Those two aren't remotely comparable. Ampadu has played a decent season in Seria A half of a time as a DM ans half of the time as a CB, whereas Ake has played well enough in the PL to get City to pay 40 million pounds for him and for City fans to not want him gone.

I'm not saying Ake would be my number one target after De Ligt - I'd be more excited about e.g. Gvardiol, Kounde, Koulibaly - but to compare him to Ampadu makes zero sense.

I mean would you really want to go into the season with only Colwill, Chalobah and Ampadu behind de Ligt, who is new to the league and quite young himself and 37 year old Silva?

Do you want to be really shocked, Raheem Stirling is only 2 months older than Nathan Ake....

1 hour ago, True Blue23 said:

I don't think Ake would make a good wing back. We need good attackers on the flanks, not a centre back who can also play fullback.

If we get him for a good price this might make sense though. He's experienced, versatile and according to bluemoon he seems to have come on quite nicely for them, at least most of them don't want him to leave. On top of that he'd be HG if I remember correctly

Agreed. He's a CB - and potentially a LB. Never a wingback. If we're able to get him for a decent price it'd make sense as he can cover several positions.
- IMO a decent price, however, is a lower than what we sold him to Bournemouth for. I don't see him as a starter for us, meaning that he'd probably take over the role Sarr has at the moment. 

With this in mind, I really do hope that the rumours* about Koulibaly is true - and that we're going for him. He's played in both 4 and 5-man defensive lineups on the left centerhalf, and though he's just turned 31 he'll likely have quite a few good years in him. If he's €35M as the rumours are saying, then I can't see us going for Aké unless he's like $10-15M, which I highly doubt. The links between Koulibaly and Chelsea has been quiet in the past weeks though. Looks like Juve want's him to replace De Ligt. 

Should this be the case, then I genuinly hope we're asking about the situation for Kimpembe and/or Gvardiol before turning our focus to Aké.

*Rumours that he can leave for around €35M. 

 

Edited June 28, 20224 yr by Hanzen

Koulibaly, Kimpembe , de ligt, Kounde and Skriniar. There are actually a few defenders to be had. 

Edited June 28, 20224 yr by ozboy

26 minutes ago, dkw said:

Do you want to be really shocked, Raheem Stirling is only 2 months older than Nathan Ake....

Wow. That is surprising for sure. Feels like Sterling has been around forever

2 hours ago, ducavis said:

Be careful what you wish for. We have also been linked with Zinchenko today. Pep/City surely doesn’t  rate Tuchel if they are allowing him to buy their castoffs, and we are helping them in rebuilding their team

True,wrong choice of words,I would be happy with sterling, but do not rate Ake at all.

16 minutes ago, ozboy said:

Koulibaly, Kimpembe , de ligt, Kounde and Skriniar. There are actually a few defenders to be had. 

kimpembe?

2 hours ago, Zeta said:

Ake would be such an underwhelming signing. He's really nothing special at all. 

Indeed. Same as Sterling imo. Would have preferred Gabriel Jesus 

2 hours ago, True Blue23 said:

Come on now. Those two aren't remotely comparable. Ampadu has played a decent season in Seria A half of a time as a DM ans half of the time as a CB, whereas Ake has played well enough in the PL to get City to pay 40 million pounds for him and for City fans to not want him gone.

I'm not saying Ake would be my number one target after De Ligt - I'd be more excited about e.g. Gvardiol, Kounde, Koulibaly - but to compare him to Ampadu makes zero sense.

I mean would you really want to go into the season with only Colwill, Chalobah and Ampadu behind de Ligt, who is new to the league and quite young himself and 37 year old Silva?

Ake was playing for a relegated Bournemouth though.
I said Ampadu has a higher ceiling given the adequate opportunity if he is after versatility. There is a 6yr gap between both players, and I am not really certain the difference in quality warrants a £50m & over £120k/w+ in wages (currently on £90k+). Glad we both agree he is a lazy signing & there are better options on the market.