I’m not crying. We never had sh*t seasons like this with the old lot. That’s a fact. Hazard is a sulk. Turns up when he feels like. 

1 minute ago, Scott Harris said:

Why? 2 league titles, 1 league cup, 1 Europa League, 3 times fans player of the year, more often than not our best player on the pitch for the last 6 years. He's achieved a lot more at this club than most in our history.

Well in my book to achieve legend status you need to have won more than that and had something a bit more special than what he has. Legend is a word that is thrown about way too much. 

Feel sorry for Hazard, think he's doing what he can considering Conte's tactics. He needs an overlapping fullback and supporting #10 to get the best from him imho. By the time our wingbacks get up the pitch to support him the opposition's defence is set and ready.

Edited May 13, 20188 yr by the special one

He is a legend in my books and I would not like to see him go,I feel chelsea would be a poorer place without him. 

5 minutes ago, stevo said:

Well in my book to achieve legend status you need to have won more than that and had something a bit more special than what he has. Legend is a word that is thrown about way too much. 

Osgood had 1 FA Cup and a Cup Winners Cup. Is he not a legend?

Take into account the era and team he played in then yes he was. 

3 minutes ago, the special one said:

Feel sorry for Hazard, think he's doing what he can considering Conte's tactics. He needs an overlapping fullback and supporting #10 to the best from him imho. By the time our wingbacks get up the pitch to support him the opposition's defence is set and ready.

Needs to stop being played in a 3-5-2 formation too. There hasn't been a game yet where i have seen the best of Hazard in this formation. It stifles him.

2 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Needs to stop being played in a 3-5-2 formation too. There hasn't been a game yet where i have seen the best of Hazard in this formation. It stifles him.

It can work like it did v Atletico, he needs space though. Without space he doesn't offer much so in that scenario he's probably best out wide.

1 minute ago, stevo said:

Take into account the era and team he played in then yes he was. 

I think Hazard is playing in the worst Chelsea side in almost 20 years, so to achieve what he has achieved is pretty damn impressive from my point of view.

4 minutes ago, the special one said:

It can work like it did v Atletico, he needs space though. Without space he doesn't offer much so in that scenario he's probably best out wide.

That's the one and only game where it worked. Eveyr other game, it just completely isolates the 2 attackers from the rest of the team.

Just now, Scott Harris said:

I think Hazard is playing in the worst Chelsea side in almost 20 years, so to achieve what he has achieved is pretty damn impressive from my point of view.

I’ll disagree with that.  He’s not a player that can single handedly take hold of a game and lift the team to win.  I don’t think this is the worst team in 20 years. Was only a year ago that they were champions. 

1 minute ago, stevo said:

I’ll disagree with that.  He’s not a player that can single handedly take hold of a game and lift the team to win.  I don’t think this is the worst team in 20 years. Was only a year ago that they were champions. 

He’s single handedly taken hold of games and won them for us more times than I can count over the last 6 years.

2 minutes ago, Kentonio said:

He’s single handedly taken hold of games and won them for us more times than I can count over the last 6 years.

Again I’ll disagree. hes Only shone when everyone else was on form. 

Just now, stevo said:

Again I’ll disagree. hes Only shone when everyone else was on form. 

Take it you missed the second half of 14/15 then.

9 minutes ago, stevo said:

I’ll disagree with that.  He’s not a player that can single handedly take hold of a game and lift the team to win.  I don’t think this is the worst team in 20 years. Was only a year ago that they were champions. 

Only two years ago we finished 10th.

I mean, you only have to look back two games if you want to see Hazard playing peiople off the pitch.  He carried us against liverpool.  He has no support from players and a manager who asks him to play with his back to goal half the season.  And he still had a pretty good season coming off injury...

Some weirdos among our fanbase. Europa league beckons and some are disputing whether Hazard is a legend or not. 

13 minutes ago, stevo said:

I’ll disagree with that.  He’s not a player that can single handedly take hold of a game and lift the team to win.  I don’t think this is the worst team in 20 years. Was only a year ago that they were champions. 

That's how highly i rate Hazard. Without him, i don't think we would get anywhere near it.

7 minutes ago, stevo said:

Again I’ll disagree. hes Only shone when everyone else was on form. 

I think the complete opposite. The squad shines when Hazard does. Whenever he losses his form, so does the team. 2 years ago was the perfect example of this. Hazard had his worst season in his career, he couldn't even score a goal until the season was almost over, and we finished 10th. His form dropped in February this season, and our season crumbled at the same time. Without Hazard, we get nowhere. We have relied on him more than any other player that i can remember in my time as a Chelsea fan.

Edited May 13, 20188 yr by Scott Harris

36 minutes ago, the special one said:

Feel sorry for Hazard, think he's doing what he can considering Conte's tactics. He needs an overlapping fullback and supporting #10 to get the best from him imho. By the time our wingbacks get up the pitch to support him the opposition's defence is set and ready.

What's wrong with an overlapping wingback? 

13 minutes ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

What's wrong with an overlapping wingback? 

Wingback implies a back 3, for me that's where it starts to go wrong imho. As I said Hazard needs a #10 or #8 to support him, you can't really have that with a 3rd CB.

Edited May 13, 20188 yr by the special one

1 hour ago, stevo said:

No we didn’t. So hazard has achieved more than Drogba Terry and Lampard? Dixon played in a completely different era and Zola was always a joy to watch. 

Think you're suffering from a strong case of nostalgia there mate. Remember when United won it 3 years in a row while we had Drogba, Terry and Lampard in their primes? I remember when United were crawling with injuries in Jose's 3rd season and we still bottled it. 

Hazard has won a lot of silverware here and he has been responsible for so many victories at this club, if you think Lampard and Drogba never sulked I don't know what to say, Lampards behaviour under AVB was ridiculous actually. For a senior player he moaned like a 19-year-old because he started getting dropped despite putting in abysmal performances. 

1 hour ago, stevo said:

I’m not crying. We never had sh*t seasons like this with the old lot. That’s a fact. Hazard is a sulk. Turns up when he feels like. 

That's because the competition wasn't as intense as it is now. It's simple. There are 6 teams, 5 at most competing for the top four, let alone the title. Man City have come along and they have done a Roman (in the early days) and turned the PL on it's head again. Us and Utd aren't the bully boys any more. Liverpool and Spurs have improved considerably too. It's obvious that is why Jose is starting to struggle now, first with us in the second spell towards the end and now with Utd. Conte is the same, as soon as the going got tough he's throwing his toys out the pram. You're the coach, you should improve the players at your disposal rather than expect the club to spend 100's of millions every summer. 

Edited May 13, 20188 yr by enigma

Simon Johnson (@sjstandardsport) Tweeted:
A miserable title defence from #cfc finally comes to an appropriate end...#Hazard makes sure some his #cfc team-mates acknowledge the away fans who travelled a long way to see that poor display. 

Edited May 13, 20188 yr by Ernie_blue

Dan Levene (@danlevene) Tweeted:
One or two of Chelsea's players try to bolt down the tunnel on full time, but Eden Hazard steps in to direct them to the away end. A half-hearted applause follows, for the fans who have made the longest trip of the domestic season. And then those paint-flecked shirts disappear. 

2 hours ago, the special one said:

Wingback implies a back 3, for me that's where it starts to go wrong imho. As I said Hazard needs a #10 or #8 to support him, you can't really have that with a 3rd CB.

You can have both those things with a back three. We most definitely play with overlapping wingback and an 8. Sometimes an 8 and a 10 when we play 3-5-2