1 hour ago, Munkworth said:

How about you both donate £10 anyway?

Rather have a bit of fun with him and watch him put his money where his mouth is.

15 minutes ago, kondi said:

Could he transition into a CM at Arsenal? Asking because that's where Arsenal need most improving and it would explain Arsenal not stressing over his age...

No

If he wants to go to Arse then good riddence. 

He's past his prime and in his prime he wasn't exactly brilliant. 

 

4 hours ago, kondi said:

Could he transition into a CM at Arsenal? Asking because that's where Arsenal need most improving and it would explain Arsenal not stressing over his age...

He played as a CM under Jose for 1 game if I recall correctly and was absolute pants so that's a hard no. 

Regardless of whether he's past his prime or not. It always rubs me the wrong way seeing our players join rivals.

Especially in this case when we are making no money from any deal.

1 hour ago, TomCFC85 said:

Regardless of whether he's past his prime or not. It always rubs me the wrong way seeing our players join rivals.

Especially in this case when we are making no money from any deal.

I'm the opposite, when players go to rivals to wind down after giving us their peak that's a huge nod of approval in my eyes (even more so now given who's coming to us in his place).

I saw Cech and Luiz at Arsenal and pitied/pity the fans knowing they will never see them smash a CL final with them like they did with us, when i see Spurs fans talking about Jose knowing they will never see the charismatic dominant version we did i think it's brilliant. And when they try and lord it over us like they done a Bayern/any other German club on us poached these guys when on the up/in their prime makes it all the more hilarious.

11 hours ago, Nibs said:

You would have thought they had learned their lesson with Ozil!

Wait, whats an Ozil? Is he that ex player, current fortnite video gamer?

6 hours ago, TomCFC85 said:

Regardless of whether he's past his prime or not. It always rubs me the wrong way seeing our players join rivals.

Especially in this case when we are making no money from any deal.

Can't really fault a player who has given us years of service for wanting to remain in London as his family has settled down, seeking good wages to see him through his final years and also remaining competitive. He can't exactly go join Fulham now can he. 

As long as it's not Spurs, I really don't mind. 

4 minutes ago, Remodez said:

Can't really fault a player who has given us years of service for wanting to remain in London as his family has settled down, seeking good wages to see him through his final years and also remaining competitive. He can't exactly go join Fulham now can he. 

As long as it's not Spurs, I really don't mind. 

He hates Tottenham

40 minutes ago, Remodez said:

Can't really fault a player who has given us years of service for wanting to remain in London as his family has settled down, seeking good wages to see him through his final years and also remaining competitive. He can't exactly go join Fulham now can he. 

As long as it's not Spurs, I really don't mind. 

Yeah you can understand his perspective.

Problem for me is that we likely still need him next season. We saw against Arsenal we desperately missed a player who could receive the ball to feet under pressure, hold it and either win a foul or progress the play. Willian is exceptional at that. It's actually probably the key strength to his game. 

For me Ziyech and Werner don't have that in their game, they are better in the final third than Willian but in the tight games sometimes it's the grunt work that gets you over the line. 

I'd be happy to have him for another year, but I am unsure whether he will be willing to sit on the bench or play a rotation role. Last time that happened he was whiteanting Conte behind the scenes. 

16 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

No serious footballer chooses Arsenal over Barcelona. 

Think Willian is happily settled in London with the missus and kids, it’s completely understandable really.

33 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

Yeah you can understand his perspective.

Problem for me is that we likely still need him next season. We saw against Arsenal we desperately missed a player who could receive the ball to feet under pressure, hold it and either win a foul or progress the play. Willian is exceptional at that. It's actually probably the key strength to his game. 

For me Ziyech and Werner don't have that in their game, they are better in the final third than Willian but in the tight games sometimes it's the grunt work that gets you over the line. 

I'd be happy to have him for another year, but I am unsure whether he will be willing to sit on the bench or play a rotation role. Last time that happened he was whiteanting Conte behind the scenes. 

Izzy Brown? He's practically been doing what you described for Luton this season. 😀

Sad to see him go. Especially to that lot.

 

 

7 hours ago, TomCFC85 said:

Regardless of whether he's past his prime or not. It always rubs me the wrong way seeing our players join rivals.

Especially in this case when we are making no money from any deal.

Chelsea players going to Arsenal generally doesn’t work out well, he’ll probably be on massive wages and have a high signing bonus/agents and take up a lot of the funds that Arsenal traditionally nowadays don’t like to spend. 

Also we won’t have to be paying him to take sh*t corners anymore 

36 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

Think Willian is happily settled in London with the missus and kids, it’s completely understandable really.

Weak mentality from a footballer and happy to see him go if so. Your career is 15 years long, if you're willing to move to Arsenal when Barcelona are offering you a contract then you don't have the mentality of an elite sportsman. 

3 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Weak mentality from a footballer and happy to see him go if so. Your career is 15 years long, if you're willing to move to Arsenal when Barcelona are offering you a contract then you don't have the mentality of an elite sportsman. 

He wouldn't start for Barcelona. At Arsenal he'll be one of their main stars.

That makes a huge difference, nothing to do with weak mentality.

1 hour ago, Spiller86 said:

Yeah you can understand his perspective.

Problem for me is that we likely still need him next season. We saw against Arsenal we desperately missed a player who could receive the ball to feet under pressure, hold it and either win a foul or progress the play. Willian is exceptional at that. It's actually probably the key strength to his game. 

For me Ziyech and Werner don't have that in their game, they are better in the final third than Willian but in the tight games sometimes it's the grunt work that gets you over the line. 

I'd be happy to have him for another year, but I am unsure whether he will be willing to sit on the bench or play a rotation role. Last time that happened he was whiteanting Conte behind the scenes. 

He was the back up under Sarri and didn't (to our knowledge) kick up a fuss.

Infact come to think of it he fell out with Conte in the period he was starting the most under him, however as i said earlier i find it a little hard to judge Willian on that, Conte's behaviour that season was a lot worse and would have tested even Angel Gabriel's patience.

I think he's probably prioritising his family life over the 'glory' of sitting on the Barcelona bench for a couple of years. Only a complete w**ker would hold that against him.

1 hour ago, Sindre said:

He wouldn't start for Barcelona. At Arsenal he'll be one of their main stars.

That makes a huge difference, nothing to do with weak mentality.

A superstar would count on their own ability to work their way into the team, especially as he's been flirting with them for two seasons now. 

The bench for the best team in Spain is better than starting for a mid table English team on par with Sheff Utd and Burnley. 

32 minutes ago, bluedave said:

I think he's probably prioritising his family life over the 'glory' of sitting on the Barcelona bench for a couple of years. Only a complete w**ker would hold that against him.

That's weird, when Courtois prioritised his family life for a move to Madrid everyone calle dhim a snake. Now its Willian its admirable. You're right, a lot of w**kers about champ. 

2 hours ago, Spiller86 said:

Yeah you can understand his perspective.

Problem for me is that we likely still need him next season. We saw against Arsenal we desperately missed a player who could receive the ball to feet under pressure, hold it and either win a foul or progress the play. Willian is exceptional at that. It's actually probably the key strength to his game. 

For me Ziyech and Werner don't have that in their game, they are better in the final third than Willian but in the tight games sometimes it's the grunt work that gets you over the line. 

I'd be happy to have him for another year, but I am unsure whether he will be willing to sit on the bench or play a rotation role. Last time that happened he was whiteanting Conte behind the scenes. 

He's said it himself, he wants 3 years, obviously money motivated. The woolwich are supposedly going to give that with possibly another year extension, well good for them. I'm glad we didn't commit to that, 4years at 150k/week. = £32m but some of his fan boys would pay it.

1 minute ago, Kev56 said:

He's said it himself, he wants 3 years, obviously money motivated. The woolwich are supposedly going to give that with possibly another year extension, well good for them. I'm glad we didn't commit to that, 4years at 150k/week. = £32m but some of his fan boys would pay it.

He's a hard worker but for the money he's on you want goals and assists and his numbers are below average. 

If he won't accept a couple of years playing where he has settled then it's best he goes as he's not all in for the cause. Rather we give the place to someone who wants to be here and prove themselves. 

2 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

He's a hard worker but for the money he's on you want goals and assists and his numbers are below average. 

I think he's just repaying Arsenal for years of loyal service...

 

21 minutes ago, Skinnedy said:

I think he's just repaying Arsenal for years of loyal service...

 

So Pulisic has the same amount of goals against Burnley in 1 injury ridden season as Willian managed in 7 years? Nice.

45 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

That's weird, when Courtois prioritised his family life for a move to Madrid everyone calle dhim a snake. Now its Willian its admirable. You're right, a lot of w**kers about champ. 

How can you even compare Willian to Courtois?!

The way Courtois treated us was disgusting. Refused to play and forced his way out.