19 hours ago, mojo said:

Some people here are realy in need of constant bashing. I presume you are all perfect at your daily life jobs.

Absolutely. Got a raise recently as a result.

On 12/11/2019 at 08:20, RIP Mourinho said:

So completely ignore the other side of his game because he's doing one side well? 

Mane manages to do both, Sterling manages to do both.

In the long term, we need better than Willian. Personally i wouldn't want to be remembered as a player who could just work hard from time to time. 

So the manager rates him highly but that's not good enough for you, then?

31 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

So the manager rates him highly but that's not good enough for you, then?

Yup. 

Our last two managers deemed him merely a squad rotation option. I imagine when the window opens Frank will have an eye out for a new winger and Willian dropped down to the bench. 

37 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Yup. 

Our last two managers deemed him merely a squad rotation option. I imagine when the window opens Frank will have an eye out for a new winger and Willian dropped down to the bench. 

But everyone thought our last two managers were tossers who knew nothing about football, were just a sulky w**ker or a scruffy old tramp sucking on a number 6.

 

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I imagine when the window opens Frank will have an eye out for a new winger and Willian dropped down to the bench.    will  be off to China for his last big payday, or something like that

That's not a very difficult thing to predict, seeing as it will be next summer,and Willian will be what, 48? 49? by then. Something like that.

Edited November 13, 20196 yr by yorkleyblue

On 12/11/2019 at 18:48, mojo said:

Some people here are realy in need of constant bashing.

I tend to get tired after two these days...

On 12/11/2019 at 08:20, RIP Mourinho said:

So completely ignore the other side of his game because he's doing one side well? 

Mane manages to do both, Sterling manages to do both.

In the long term, we need better than Willian. Personally i wouldn't want to be remembered as a player who could just work hard from time to time. 

They don't do it as well as Willian imo... He is ridiculously hardworking when he's not sulking as he has been for the last couple of seasons. 

It was always what stopped me criticising him and made me have soft spot for him. I used to be amazed at the stupid amount of defensive work and running he used to do, even though he's primarily a player who loves to have the ball at his feet and dribble. 

On 12/11/2019 at 08:20, RIP Mourinho said:

So completely ignore the other side of his game because he's doing one side well? 

Mane manages to do both, Sterling manages to do both.

In the long term, we need better than Willian. Personally i wouldn't want to be remembered as a player who could just work hard from time to time. 

Willian is 31, of course we need a better player in the long-term. 

Pedro will probably be gone in January, I'll be surprised if Willian is here next season, but so far this is the best Willian I've seen in a Chelsea shirt. I might be getting ahead of myself, but I like his current form at the moment. He also seems to be a lot faster than he's ever been, he used to always conserve his energy game by game, now he's accelerating a lot more and beating players, it's great to see. 

When we first signed Willian he was superb for a few months, good rotational option, he was one of the only few good players during the dark Mourinho 3rd season, underwhelming in the title win despite playing every game. He was at his best in Conte's first season, rotational player but always brought an impact off the bench, that was his best role. 2nd season he had two very good months, notably when we played Barca, last season he was underwhelming, and it looked like he was on his way out. This season at the beginning it looked even worse but since we have started on winning ways, he has been magnificent. We need a mixture of experience with youth, it's essential and Willian is playing a massive part. 

I say give Willian his kudos, but also, not get too far ahead of ourselves, we should obviously be looking for a replacement, a new player to bring in, whether it's January or the summer, Sancho is looking the likely choice now. 

Edited November 17, 20196 yr by Slojo

Anyway, as for Zouma. I don't want to get ahead of myself by any means, but his last 10 games I would say he's showing exactly why he was one of the highest rated prospects in 2015. A good performance against City and could this mean Kurt has a Chelsea career again? 

5 hours ago, Slojo said:

Anyway, as for Zouma. I don't want to get ahead of myself by any means, but his last 10 games I would say he's showing exactly why he was one of the highest rated prospects in 2015. A good performance against City and could this mean Kurt has a Chelsea career again? 

On his day he's our best CB by a mile - perhaps an exaggeration but I'd even go as far to say when he's on it he's one of the best CBs in the world right now.

Over the course of a season however I'd still expect Rudiger to perform more consistently.

Edited November 17, 20196 yr by the special one

On 17/11/2019 at 02:44, the special one said:

Over the course of a season however I'd still expect Rudiger to perform more consistently.

One thing for sure, it will be an interesting clash of France vs Germany at Cobham for that starting spot in the back four between Zouma & Rudiger. Tomori is a going to remain the first name on the squad sheet for a very long time coming.

Positionally very poor last night, drifted out to the LB position far too often when Dave was getting back in. Whats the point of having a 6ft 4 brick sh*t house at the back if he's not in the box to win headers.

Wouldn't mind seeing Tomori - Christensen next game.

Tricky one last night for Zouma I guess no Tomori and Apzi on the left.

Christensen's' mistimed jump for their first goal partly culpable for us conceding.

24 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

Tricky one last night for Zouma I guess no Tomori and Apzi on the left.

Christensen's' mistimed jump for their first goal partly culpable for us conceding.

Its not Christensen's man that scores, its a late runner into the box. Christensen follows the man he's marking. Zouma shouldn't be going walk abouts. 

3 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Its not Christensen's man that scores, its a late runner into the box. Christensen follows the man he's marking. Zouma shouldn't be going walk abouts. 

Agreed it was a runner and if James reacts probably no goal yet Christen got no where the near the ball.

Edited November 28, 20196 yr by strider6004

1 hour ago, Strider6003 said:

Agreed it was a runner and if James reacts probably no goal yet Christen got no where the near the ball.

Because the man he was marking was nowhere near the ball????

First goal was on James and Christensen in my opinion, James had to react towards the play next to him and Christensen had to cover that area.

Zouma wasn't at his best yesterday, but I don't panic too much, he is in great form and deserves to have a bad game.

How can any defenders be in great form if we’ve conceded 13 goals in the last month? Our defence is incredibly poor all around. 

On 28/11/2019 at 18:03, IliyaKrostin said:

First goal was on James and Christensen in my opinion, James had to react towards the play next to him and Christensen had to cover that area.

Zouma wasn't at his best yesterday, but I don't panic too much, he is in great form and deserves to have a bad game.

if you look at the goal again AC didnt have a choice he had to mark his man and from this picture its clear it was James who completely switched off.. in he next two seconds the striker makes a near post run.. so AC follows him while Kante is marking the approaching midfielder... from a CFC stand point James is the extra man but he completely dozes off and is complacent.. i hope he got a rollicking from the coaching team for this..

On 28/11/2019 at 03:04, Strider6003 said:

Agreed it was a runner and if James reacts probably no goal yet Christen got no where the near the ball.

funny you said that about James. Glenn Hoddle had the same exact sentiment as you. Are you The Real Glenn Hoddle? 🤨

9 minutes ago, robdog said:

funny you said that about James. Glenn Hoddle had the same exact sentiment as you. Are you The Real Glenn Hoddle? 🤨

Haha, I'm not though was once called Beckham playing once for a work team in the inter-company five-a-side Down Under and hit a screamer into the top left corner from a half volley. It was kind of strange as everyone stopped and just stared at me. It did strike me later as fortunate the way ball bounced and the time I had. Another time described as being like Lothar Mathhaeus.

I just call it as I see it yet good to hear I am in good company as when I was supporting it was during Hoddle's tenure as manager. 

6 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

Haha, I'm not though was once called Beckham playing once for a work team in the inter-company five-a-side Down Under and hit a screamer into the top left corner from a half volley. It was kind of strange as everyone stopped and just stared at me. It did strike me later as fortunate the way ball bounced and the time I had. Another time described as being like Lothar Mathhaeus.

I just call it as I see it yet good to hear I am in good company as when I was supporting it was during Hoddle's tenure as manager. 

btw, you can see Hoddle's comments here:

p.s....I apologize for this long video

56 minutes ago, robdog said:

btw, you can see Hoddle's comments here:

p.s....I apologize for this long video

RobDog,

Not sure if you know yet after Hoddle was sacked as England manager following certain remarks about like, death and the afterlife he later went to Spain or Portugal and started taking on rejects from the Premier League clubs and trained them entered their team in a local league with local supporters coming to watch them. Several end up in the English Championship after getting their confidence back.

3 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

RobDog,

Not sure if you know yet after Hoddle was sacked as England manager following certain remarks about like, death and the afterlife he later went to Spain or Portugal and started taking on rejects from the Premier League clubs and trained them entered their team in a local league with local supporters coming to watch them. Several end up in the English Championship after getting their confidence back.

nope - I just know he convinced Ruud Gullit come to the club, then left The Club for the 3 Lions

3 minutes ago, robdog said:

nope - I just know he convinced Ruud Gullit come to the club, then left The Club for the 3 Lions

Yes that very important for us back then.

He was back to his worst today. He is very fortunate that the West Ham goal was disallowed because that was possibly the worst piece of defending I have seen in a long time. He literally ducked his head as the cross came in for the West Ham player to score a tap in.