On 30/11/2020 at 12:10, Scott Harris said:

No way are they half chances.

The first cross from James at 38 seconds is right on him, that should be any easy goal for any striker. He gets in front of his man and all he has to do is get decent contact on the ball, and it's a goal. You don't need to be an elite player at heading the ball to score that.

The second cross at 48 seconds is a bit more difficult, but again, he beats his man and should be getting on the end of it.

The third at 1:15 is the worst of the lot. The cross is right into his feet, and Abraham's legs are flying all over the place. That's a sitter for me.

 

These should not be difficult chances for strikers playing for a top 4 team. Every striker misses some chances they should score from, but I can't think of any strikers playing for our rivals that would miss all 3 of these chances.

Crikey - that clip didn't do him any favors.  Comes across as a very clumsy player to me, at times making Bakayoko look composed.  Has goals in him and a good squad player, but he is not a top four striker. Just seems to make himself too busy flapping around - could do with spending some time with Silva on body positioning!

On 01/12/2020 at 18:47, ducavis said:

Our football was way more direct last season than it is this season. With the addition of Silva & Chiwell in defence who are both comfortable with the ball, Zouma & Silva have the most touches in our games. Last season every time the defenders were pressed they cleared it upfield for Giroud to hold up.

Personally I hope Lamps starts Giroud against Sevilla so fans can understand why he isn’t starting him.

Scoring clearly has its disadvantages to the team. Giroud is a good experienced striker who is good to have around the squad,whilst being more than capable of starting in some games.

Hat-Trick for Giroud - What a Guy!!

On 01/12/2020 at 18:47, ducavis said:

Our football was way more direct last season than it is this season. With the addition of Silva & Chiwell in defence who are both comfortable with the ball, Zouma & Silva have the most touches in our games. Last season every time the defenders were pressed they cleared it upfield for Giroud to hold up.

Personally I hope Lamps starts Giroud against Sevilla so fans can understand why he isn’t starting him.

Sorry mate but this just gets better and better:-)

On 01/12/2020 at 18:47, ducavis said:

Our football was way more direct last season than it is this season. With the addition of Silva & Chiwell in defence who are both comfortable with the ball, Zouma & Silva have the most touches in our games. Last season every time the defenders were pressed they cleared it upfield for Giroud to hold up.

Personally I hope Lamps starts Giroud against Sevilla so fans can understand why he isn’t starting him.

😬

He's just scored 4 goals.

On 30/11/2020 at 08:23, ducavis said:

A 15 PL goal scorer still needs to learn the game? Why not continue improving by getting more game time which he is currently doing.

This mythical idea that Giroud is somehow near world class needs to stop, for one he isn’t mobile enough. 

 

On 30/11/2020 at 08:23, ducavis said:

A 15 PL goal scorer still needs to learn the game? Why not continue improving by getting more game time which he is currently doing.

This mythical idea that Giroud is somehow near world class needs to stop, for one he isn’t mobile enough. 

Humble pie comes cheaply, go on have the lot, you deserve it....

I hope nobody takes Giroud's performance tonight as an opportunity to slag off Abraham...

On 01/12/2020 at 18:47, ducavis said:

Our football was way more direct last season than it is this season. With the addition of Silva & Chiwell in defence who are both comfortable with the ball, Zouma & Silva have the most touches in our games. Last season every time the defenders were pressed they cleared it upfield for Giroud to hold up.

Personally I hope Lamps starts Giroud against Sevilla so fans can understand why he isn’t starting him.

Now we need you to make the exact same post but about Leeds instead. 

On 01/12/2020 at 18:47, ducavis said:

Our football was way more direct last season than it is this season. With the addition of Silva & Chiwell in defence who are both comfortable with the ball, Zouma & Silva have the most touches in our games. Last season every time the defenders were pressed they cleared it upfield for Giroud to hold up.

Personally I hope Lamps starts Giroud against Sevilla so fans can understand why he isn’t starting him.

We all have stinkers. I'm actually jealous of you for making this comment. 

1 minute ago, PloKoon13 said:

I hope nobody takes Giroud's performance tonight as an opportunity to slag off Abraham...

I did a bit, but I have nothing against Abraham. I just pointed out the contrast between them. I think out of the two Giroud is so much more clinical. But it was nice to see Abraham go over and give him a hug after those 4 goals. 

10 minutes ago, Slojo said:

I did a bit, but I have nothing against Abraham. I just pointed out the contrast between them. I think out of the two Giroud is so much more clinical. But it was nice to see Abraham go over and give him a hug after those 4 goals. 

I do enjoy their relationship - Lampard was talking about the guidance and encouragement that Giroud gives Tammy. Very cute - love having them both in the squad.

Just now, PloKoon13 said:

I do enjoy their relationship - Lampard was talking about the guidance and encouragement that Giroud gives Tammy. Very cute - love having them both in the squad.

No animosity in the squad at all I reckon. Tammy has a good attitude and is a great professional, even when he kicked up a bit of a fuss about the penalty situation at Palace, he listened to his captain and walked away (strikers instinct, nothing wrong with wanting to take the pen after having no luck in front of goal). 

So to see him go over to Giroud like that even though that game alone can minimise his game time this season is a great attitude. I just hope he can learn a lot from Giroud, Tammy definitely has time on his side. The good thing about Abraham is that he doesn't seem to go on goal droughts, he does usually always find his way to grabbing a goal every now and then. 

Giroud is like champagne, Abraham is like lambrini.

7 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

Giroud is like champagne, Abraham is like lambrini.

Why is this sort of talk necessary? I seriously don't understand how one can slag off a guy who has been at Chelsea since he was a kid, because some other guy is scoring goals??

10 hours ago, PloKoon13 said:

I hope nobody takes Giroud's performance tonight as an opportunity to slag off Abraham...

Good luck with that.

1 hour ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Why is this sort of talk necessary? I seriously don't understand how one can slag off a guy who has been at Chelsea since he was a kid, because some other guy is scoring goals??

Just basically ignore all the good stuff Tammy has done the past few seasons and slag him off because he had a bad game and Giroud had a good one, our fans are amazing arent they, probably the same fans who have been whining for years about giving youth a chance too. 

Calm down, it was a joke. I like Abraham.

At the end of the day... We have 3 really good striker options. All 3 of them have 18 goals combined so far, considering a normal season start it would've been about this time last month... So that's really good right? All 3 of our forwards are almost in double figures each and we're not halfway through the season. 

There's nobody to slag off here, Giroud also has terrible games. 

13 hours ago, PloKoon13 said:

I hope nobody takes Giroud's performance tonight as an opportunity to slag off Abraham...

Abraham is nowhere near as beautiful as my man Olivier. 

1 hour ago, Munkworth said:

Abraham is nowhere near as beautiful as my man Olivier. 

They both have very nice smiles though. Then again so do all of us when they score 

12 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

Calm down, it was a joke. I like Abraham.

Thankfully two people on the entire forum understood the sarcasm/joke. 
 

Don’t lose the sense of humour. It was amusing. 

Tammy is the future but not the first option. Werner and Giroud have impressed more.

6 hours ago, Gol15 said:

Tammy is the future but not the first option. Werner and Giroud have impressed more.

“Tammy is the future” is an excellent point one that I think some miss. He has been excellent this season so far, link up and finishing. It’s important for him to mesh with the powerhouse Chels and Lamps are building so I have no issue with him seeing lots of game time.

He missed a couple opportunities against the best defensive team in the prem. Tatter tots sat back the entire game, clearly they respected him and the attacking prowess of this team. If he isn’t seeing top comp he isn’t going to improve.

No doubt that Giroud should get a run of games (after Leeds imo). Let’s not forget though Giroud could be gone next season. Tammy is the future!

 

Found this by chance today:

Goal contribution stats
Minutes: Abraham 3,734 – Giroud 1,681
Goals: 23 – 16
Assists 8 – 1
Minutes per goal: 162.35 – 105.06
Minutes per goal or assist: 120.45 – 98.89

Team stats
Win rate: Abraham 51.1% Giroud 58.9%
Loss rate: 36.2% – 31.6%
Goals per game: 1.4 – 1.79
Goals against per game: 1.1 – 0.95
Points per game: 1.31 – 1.84

Further stats
Shots: Abraham 3.47  Giroud 3.71
Key passes: 1.01 – 0.71
Percentage of aerial duels won: 48.6 – 48.4
Successful dribbles: 0.63 – 0.29
Unsuccessful touches: 2.95 – 1.43
Dispossessed: 1.45 – 0.79
Tackles: 0.45 – 0.71
Clearances: 1.24 – 1.07

https://www.football365.com/news/comparing-giroud-abraham-stats-chelsea-lampard