4 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

I hate to say it but if i was a young player i'd be looking at moving to Liverpool, City or Spurs long before Chelsea as they're likely to get serious game time in those teams.

 

If i were a big name player i'd be pushing for a move to Utd over us, they can offer the most money and look more likely to win something. 

 

The only big team we're more attractive to a player than is Arsenal i would say.

 

We as a club just aren't as attractive to players as we once were. We need to seriously start looking at our academy for the answers rather than wasting millions upon millions. 

 

That I don't agree, both on the money wise and trophy chance wise.. I don't see Man United right now as a better option than us in every aspect, not to mention Chelsea is in london.. Oops, history and global brand wise, they're better but when was the last time players care about that sort of thing?

21 hours ago, didierforever said:

LOL. Have Christensen in the wings, just bought Luiz and Alonso with the likes of Aina, Da Silva, Ake in the youth set up, but we are "looking for new defensive talents". If I was given this much money, I would be a world class manager. 

Show balls Conte. So far its been all talk, and no action. 

By god, Costa has literally kept his job safe with those 2 late goals. Remove those last minute winners and we have a worse season than the last season, who would have thought that was possible. 

Remove all of Fergie's Fergie time goals and he probably has about 5 titles and 1 CL instead of 13 and 2. Games are 90 minutes long not 80.

There's nothing lucky about keeping going till the end and getting you're reward.

21 hours ago, didierforever said:

LOL. Have Christensen in the wings, just bought Luiz and Alonso with the likes of Aina, Da Silva, Ake in the youth set up, but we are "looking for new defensive talents". If I was given this much money, I would be a world class manager. 

Show balls Conte. So far its been all talk, and no action. 

By god, Costa has literally kept his job safe with those 2 late goals. Remove those last minute winners and we have a worse season than the last season, who would have thought that was possible. 

I couldn't agree more with that line, not so much the late winners one though, but there has been a lot of "I fight with my team and I die with my team".  Well there's been a few really painful deaths, so if he really believes in that he'll show some fight now and show some balls.

4 minutes ago, Argo said:

Remove all of Fergie's Fergie time goals and he probably has about 5 titles and 1 CL instead of 13 and 2. Games are 90 minutes long not 80.

There's nothing lucky about keeping going till the end and getting you're reward.

 

Think you might have missed the point but since you're hellbent on discounting luck out so there is nothing to discuss...

3 minutes ago, bola said:

 

Think you might have missed the point but since you're hellbent on discounting luck out so there is nothing to discuss...

And what point is that exactly? Every goal late is luck is it? So by that notion Avram was unlucky not to break Jose's points record (he would have if you take away all the late goals conceded that season).

We pinned WHU, Watford and Swansea further and further back late on in those games and got the late goals our persistence deserved, in fact it was a travesty Swansea even held on for a point, such was the we took them apart in the last 20, in fact the whole game bar those two minutes of madness.

Im backing Conte completely! If the greatest chef in the world requests the ingredients needed to make a good dish and you provide him with expired and Tesco value products, your gonna get beat 3-0 at Arsenal. lol

44 minutes ago, ChelseaVeteran said:

Im backing Conte completely! If the greatest chef in the world requests the ingredients needed to make a good dish and you provide him with expired and Tesco value products, your gonna get beat 3-0 at Arsenal. lol

The greatest chef in the world would still have managed to beat arsenal 2-0 with rotting produce.

Edited September 27, 20169 yr by Orpington_Blue

5 hours ago, Orpington_Blue said:

The greatest chef in the world would still have managed to beat arsenal 2-0 with rotting produce.

All good things have to end, unfortunately for Conte it ended with him. It only ended because one of our player gifted it  to them. The Arsenal game did lots of emotional damage to the fans, all the sudden it's the end of the world, players  need to be shipped out and the manager's position needs to be evaluated. As far as I'm concerned, losing to Arsenal is as bad as losing to Sweansea or Watford. Losing is never fun, but if we are going to doubt the manager every time we lose a couple of games, maybe time to follow another sport. We are running out of manager candidates with the rate we have been going, soon we will only get the likes of Big Sam or Rodgers to pick from.

33 minutes ago, icecoolguy22 said:

All good things have to end, unfortunately for Conte it ended with him. It only ended because one of our player gifted it  to them. The Arsenal game did lots of emotional damage to the fans, all the sudden it's the end of the world, players  need to be shipped out and the manager's position needs to be evaluated. As far as I'm concerned, losing to Arsenal is as bad as losing to Sweansea or Watford. Losing is never fun, but if we are going to doubt the manager every time we lose a couple of games, maybe time to follow another sport. We are running out of manager candidates with the rate we have been going, soon we will only get the likes of Big Sam or Rodgers to pick from.

Duh... I was pointing to the fact that "best Chef" from that analogy should not be Conte but Mourinho. Mourinho still beat arsenal 2-0 confortably even with an out of form struggling bottom of the table squad.

On 26/09/2016 at 16:27, JoseBlues said:

 

2nd biggest mistake we will make. First was firing jose in the first place. Cut out league 2 level players from our squad, let Conte play with his own players and then fire him if results hold.

For now, let's just fire Emenalo.

 

Firing Jose was not a mistake, rehiring him was the biggest mistake Roman has ever made at Chelsea.

Firing Jose was not a mistake, rehiring him was the biggest mistake Roman has ever made at Chelsea.

I am assuming you were very unhappy when we won the title.

1 hour ago, Orpington_Blue said:

Duh... I was pointing to the fact that "best Chef" from that analogy should not be Conte but Mourinho. Mourinho still beat arsenal 2-0 confortably even with an out of form struggling bottom of the table squad.

I know what you meant, the only difference between the 2 games is Jose didn't have Cahill sh1t in his soup that day. I remember that game, could be a completely different story had we gifted them the first goal

30 minutes ago, kiwi1691 said:

Firing Jose was not a mistake, rehiring him was the biggest mistake Roman has ever made at Chelsea.

The man won the title at a canter with a team filled with average players. He had them playing several levels above their ability and will sadly do the same now at United. How is that not a big feckin mistake?

Or alternatively, Mourinho took a squad of good players who had established a huge lead in the PL, and turned them into a squad of average players by brain washing them with negative tactics.  All depends on your point of view :)

Conte has not lost three games in succession, as Mourinho has already done at Manchester United this season, despite the ££££ he has spent on new players ...

 

And as for Mourinho being able to beat Arsenal comfortably last season, well ... he played them twice. Once 11 vs 11 he lost the Community Shield 1-0, and then second time round in the PL we won 2-0 with goals in the 53rd minute and 91st minutes (an own goal btw) after Arsenal had players sent off in the 45th and 79th minutes. Hardly convincing evidence of how wonderful JM was LOL. In fact I'd take it the other way - his tactics struggling to put away an opponent with 9 players ...

Hiddink beat Arsenal as well of course last season, but again Arsenal had 10 men for the majority of the game.

 

 

Edited September 28, 20169 yr by Sexyfootball
Typo - changed 'if' to 'of'

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Edited September 28, 20169 yr by Sexyfootball
Duplictae post - please delete

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

Or alternatively, Mourinho took a squad of good players who had established a huge lead in the PL, and turned them into a squad of average players by brain washing them with negative tactics.  All depends on your point of view :)

Conte has not lost three games in succession, as Mourinho has already done at Manchester United this season, despite the ££££ he has spent on new players ...

 

And as for Mourinho being able to beat Arsenal comfortably last season, well ... he played them twice. Once 11 vs 11 he lost the Community Shield 1-0, and then second time round in the PL we won 2-0 with goals in the 53rd minute and 91st minutes (an own goal btw) after Arsenal had players sent off in the 45th and 79th minutes. Hardly convincing evidence of how wonderful JM was LOL. In fact I'd take it the other way - his tactics struggling to put away an opponent with 9 players ...

Hiddink beat Arsenal as well of course last season, but again Arsenal had 10 men for the majority of the game.

 

 

haha oh come on. You can't just ignore the 18 months he spent putting in the groundwork to get them to the top of the league in the first place. Maybe he did cause them to lose form after that point, but you can't take that in isolation and discredit the fact that he took a team that scraped top 4 and turned them into title winners within 2 years.

You also conveniently ignored Mourinho's overall outstanding record against Wenger to focus on the 1 season when he didn't get the upper hand over Arsenal.

You can't pick and choose which bits of history fits your own viewpoint. Either provie a balanced argument for your views or don't bother

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

Or alternatively, Mourinho took a squad of good players who had established a huge lead in the PL, and turned them into a squad of average players by brain washing them with negative tactics.  All depends on your point of view :)

What a disingenuous point of view.

Edited September 28, 20169 yr by Stim

8 hours ago, JoseBlues said:

 

I am assuming you were very unhappy when we won the title.

 

The same people always slag of Mourinho but say they celebrate all the trophies he won for Chelsea because it's for Chelsea FC. Such a rubbish manager that Mourinho ;)

1 minute ago, Ernie_blue said:

The same people always slag of Mourinho but say they celebrate all the trophies he won for Chelsea because it's for Chelsea FC. Such a rubbish manager that Mourinho ;)

 

And the same people always spring to his defence ... honestly I bet some of you would love it if Man United finished above Chelsea this season ...

 

1 minute ago, Sexyfootball said:

 

And the same people always spring to his defence ... honestly I bet some of you would love it if Man United finished above Chelsea this season ...

 

Why wouldn't people defend him, his the best manager Chelsea have ever had and one of the best ever.

edit: nvm this is pointless

Edited September 28, 20169 yr by Stim

2 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Or alternatively, Mourinho took a squad of good players who had established a huge lead in the PL, and turned them into a squad of average players by brain washing them with negative tactics.  All depends on your point of view :)

 

Stand on your head and call everyone else upside down. Its all your pov right... 

2 minutes ago, Orpington_Blue said:

Stand on your head and call everyone else upside down. Its all your pov right... 

If you want to compare points of view OB:

 

"Mourinho still beat arsenal 2-0 confortably even with an out of form struggling bottom of the table squad. "

Arsenal had two players sent off ... !!!! Even then we limped to 2-0 with an own goal in injury time. Honestly JM wasn't working any miracles that day here in comparison to what Conte is doing ....

 

" The man won the title at a canter with a team filled with average players. He had them playing several levels above their ability and will sadly do the same now at United. How is that not a big feckin mistake? "

 

Yes that's what he said in the media. I remember JM saying that LOL. As usual, he makes it all about 'him' ... he's doing it again at Man United ... so glad he's their problem now and not ours ... FORZA CONTE !!!!

 

Given time, I hope Conte surpasses JM as our most successful (as defined by winning trophies) manager ...

2 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Given time, I hope Conte surpasses JM as our most successful (as defined by winning trophies) manager ...

Isn't it pretty much expected to hope that about literally every successive manager we ever get?

11 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

If you want to compare points of view OB:

 

"Mourinho still beat arsenal 2-0 confortably even with an out of form struggling bottom of the table squad. "

Arsenal had two players sent off ... !!!! Even then we limped to 2-0 with an own goal in injury time. Honestly JM wasn't working any miracles that day here in comparison to what Conte is doing ....

 

" The man won the title at a canter with a team filled with average players. He had them playing several levels above their ability and will sadly do the same now at United. How is that not a big feckin mistake? "

 

Yes that's what he said in the media. I remember JM saying that LOL. As usual, he makes it all about 'him' ... he's doing it again at Man United ... so glad he's their problem now and not ours ... FORZA CONTE !!!!

 

Given time, I hope Conte surpasses JM as our most successful (as defined by winning trophies) manager ...

 

Despite all the rubbish you post, that last statement is something we can agree on.