October 1, 20169 yr Got it spot on today, not a great first half, but we were solid, and we brushed them aside second half.
October 1, 20169 yr and so the 3 at the back era begins.. fingers crossed we'll se zouma-terry-luiz after the international break
October 1, 20169 yr 2 hours ago, JM7 said: So if Moses is injured, who would replace him on the right? Pedro? Dave? bring in Brana - shift Dave to the RWB position - problem solved - interesting you are posting about the new formation - there was an interesting discussion here about Don Antonio's new formation
October 1, 20169 yr Interesting to see how Conte will suit the new formation, to be honest, I liked the way how we looked on the pitch. Alonso and Moses were involved almost in every counter attack, a big plus to our attack. Zouma and Terry are back after the international break, big dilemma for Conte. Zouma, Terry, Luiz, Azpilicueta, Cahill, Alonso, Ivanovic and Moses who looked good on right position.
October 1, 20169 yr 5 minutes ago, IliyaKrostin said: Interesting to see how Conte will suit the new formation, to be honest, I liked the way how we looked on the pitch. Alonso and Moses were involved almost in every counter attack, a big plus to our attack. Zouma and Terry are back after the international break, big dilemma for Conte. Zouma, Terry, Luiz, Azpilicueta, Cahill, Alonso, Ivanovic and Moses who looked good on right position. I rather see Dave as a RWB - we already know how good he is going forward & his excellent 1 on 1 defense
October 1, 20169 yr Wasn't sure where else to post this. Chelsea assistant first-team coach Steve Holland has joined interim England manager Gareth Southgate's backroom staff. The 46-year-old has assisted Southgate for the past three years in his role as England Under-21 boss. Holland will be England first-team coach alongside his Chelsea job.
October 1, 20169 yr 1 hour ago, robdog said: I rather see Dave as a RWB - we already know how good he is going forward & his excellent 1 on 1 defense Dave isn't very good going forward, I was surprised he didn't play William as a wing back, Moses did well, crossing not decisive enough but he was surprisingly good at defending but I'm sure conte will set up with Dave-zouma-JT-luiz-Alonso or he may opt to keep Dave as part of the back 3 rotating terry and zouma when needs be I think if that happens eventually Willian takes Moses spot and that leaves number 10 for Oscar or fab
October 1, 20169 yr Dave isn't very good going forwardI have to disagree with you there. What happened vs Leicester wasn't a fluke my friend. Dave is versatile.
October 1, 20169 yr 33 minutes ago, robdog said: I have to disagree with you there. What happened vs Leicester wasn't a fluke my friend. Dave is versatile. His goal? Lol If he hit that 500 times he wouldn't score it again, he has 4 goals for us in the prem in his career I think, but goals aren't a fb's job, overlapping and creating chances is, he is a phenomenal defender but very very average going forward, you can argue that's because he has been stuck at lb with a right footed winger infront of him but Dave has never offered half as much as a top attacking full back in the prem, If look at his stats for assists, and that flatters him vs chances created because of our attacking players, they are very normal for a fullback 15 assists in 129 games, Baines has 59 assists in 329 games for Everton, you look at a player like Dani Alvez and he has 102 in 391 different leauge yes, but a real threat going forward, Dave will do his job to a good standard but no one would rate him highly as an attacking fb it's just not his forte Edited October 1, 20169 yr by DonAntonio
October 2, 20169 yr His goal? Lol If he hit that 500 times he wouldn't score it again, he has 4 goals for us in the prem in his career I think, but goals aren't a fb's job, overlapping and creating chances is, he is a phenomenal defender but very very average going forward, you can argue that's because he has been stuck at lb with a right footed winger infront of him but Dave has never offered half as much as a top attacking full back in the prem, If look at his stats for assists, and that flatters him vs chances created because of our attacking players, they are very normal for a fullback 15 assists in 129 games, Baines has 59 assists in 329 games for Everton, you look at a player like Dani Alvez and he has 102 in 391 different leauge yes, but a real threat going forward, Dave will do his job to a good standard but no one would rate him highly as an attacking fb it's just not his forte Good stats there but overall Dave is better suited to be a RWB over any other player on Chelsea - your stats can't disprove that
October 2, 20169 yr 2 minutes ago, robdog said: Good stats there but overall Dave is better suited to be a RWB over any other player on Chelsea - your stats can't disprove that I don't disagree but in an attacking line up its an option to play him on the right of the 3 like today and use Willian or Moses as a rwb
October 2, 20169 yr I was impressed with Conte's willingness to gamble with a 3-man formation after trying (and failing) to use Cahill, Luiz and Ivanovic in a 4-man defensive line several weeks in a row. It's a refreshing contrast with Mou, who simply kept on playing much the same defensive line no matter how atrocious Ivanovic was. This Chelsea side is certainly not IMO good enough to win the PL. In my view, the squad somewhat lacks depth, even without CL obligations. However, Conte's willingness to adapt and learn from his mistakes is encouraging, even though I do think he is a bit conservative with his subs.
October 2, 20169 yr Although Hull were fairly poor, We defintely looked a lot better and more comfortable. First half it seems the players were still getting used to it. Tougher tests to come but hopefully any cracks will be ironed out.
October 2, 20169 yr Credit where its due. Changed the personnel and the formation Took us 3 managers and 1 and a half year to realise that IVA was a major problem in our team. Bit shocking. Hopefully this is the start of some massive overhauling. Iva, GC, Oscar, Pedro, Mikel. We can do without each of these players.
October 2, 20169 yr from reading what Willian had to say about Don Antonio, apparently Don Antonio is calm & provides excellent instructions
October 2, 20169 yr 3 hours ago, didierforever said: Credit where its due. Changed the personnel and the formation Took us 3 managers and 1 and a half year to realise that IVA was a major problem in our team. Bit shocking. Hopefully this is the start of some massive overhauling. Iva, GC, Oscar, Pedro, Mikel. We can do without each of these players. I don't think any of them failed to realise, he was just a lesser evil compared to Van Aanholts little brother. Thankfully however Alonso seems to be of the required standard to put Ivanovic on the bench.
October 3, 20169 yr I'd love to see more 3 at the back but its not going to be the usual I feel. The nature of the league will expose us if we use it regularly. Too much up and down and wide play. You can't expect anyone to cover that space anymore as a WB
October 3, 20169 yr 7 hours ago, Argo said: I don't think any of them failed to realise, he was just a lesser evil compared to Van Aanholts little brother. Thankfully however Alonso seems to be of the required standard to put Ivanovic on the bench. I don't believe Ivanovic was considered a lesser evil by any of Conte's predecessors. It's just that they were risk averse and refused to field the options in the squad.
October 3, 20169 yr 9 minutes ago, lchk said: I don't believe Ivanovic was considered a lesser evil by any of Conte's predecessors. It's just that they were risk averse and refused to field the options in the squad. 9 minutes ago, lchk said: I don't believe Ivanovic was considered a lesser evil by any of Conte's predecessors. It's just that they were risk averse and refused to field the options in the squad. Mourinho has walzed into Old Trafford and benched Wayne Rooney in less than ten games, 90 minutes was all Hiddink needed to drop Cahill for Zouma. Its one thing benching a player when the alternatives are Pogba and Zouma, it's another thing doing so when the alternatives Baba Rahman.
October 3, 20169 yr 7 games down and 13 points. That is exactly the same as Barca. We are doing fine 3 at back looks like it is working. Not because we get Gary off the ball but because we have more presence in midfield. Not sure if the break is good or not. At least we have time to practice. Not everybody is with their national teams.
October 3, 20169 yr 13 hours ago, Argo said: I don't think any of them failed to realise, he was just a lesser evil compared to Van Aanholts little brother. Thankfully however Alonso seems to be of the required standard to put Ivanovic on the bench. 6 hours ago, Argo said: Mourinho has walzed into Old Trafford and benched Wayne Rooney in less than ten games, 90 minutes was all Hiddink needed to drop Cahill for Zouma. Its one thing benching a player when the alternatives are Pogba and Zouma, it's another thing doing so when the alternatives Baba Rahman. That Felipe Luis bloke sure was a dud, eh!
October 3, 20169 yr 6 hours ago, Argo said: Mourinho has walzed into Old Trafford and benched Wayne Rooney in less than ten games, 90 minutes was all Hiddink needed to drop Cahill for Zouma. Its one thing benching a player when the alternatives are Pogba and Zouma, it's another thing doing so when the alternatives Baba Rahman. Someone else beat me to it but Luis was an inferior option? Lol
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