Haven’t posted on this site for years, just wanted to predict these two will become Chelsea greats, amongst the recent gloom these two kids have shone like a beacon.

The future is bright, the future is blue, in Conte we trust, in Roman we hope.

KTBFFH 

 

Edited February 7, 20188 yr by Star
Missed a bit

Yeah if given a go.

I would play the pair of them ahead of Bakayoko, Drinkwater and Pedro right now. 

how great it would be to have a 17 year old come up and grab a regular place

castillo and george mccreachan are two to watch for too. i do think we may genuinely have the best batch of young players ever. ampadu was a brilliant find and we must credit the club for getting him in as there must have undoubtedly been heavy competition for his signature. hudson-odoi, well not much to say, i'm a fanboy and have been for a long while now. he has pretty much everything you could want in an attacking player; blistering pace, power, shooting ability, vision, great dribbling. dujon sterling i am sure will mature into a top player too. 

Just now, enigma said:

castillo and george mccreachan are two to watch for too. 

Castillo was great last night but we’ve been burnt by a McEachran before 

Just now, Munkworth said:

Castillo was great last night but we’ve been burnt by a McEachran before 

george mceachran is a lovely player to watch, controls the game well. in the england u17's world cup he was so composed in midfield, it looked effortless. not saying he's guaranteed to be a world beater, but look at eden hazard, there's always one brother who becomes that top bro haha. he's 17 so no rush to push him, but he does look nice. 

i think i will sob uncontrollably if none of this group of youngsters make it to the first team. i don't think we will ever have a better group after this lot. i can easily see 3/4 who, if they continue on an upward trajectory and stay focused, will make it to the first team. problem is, i worry someone like hudson-odoi may end up overlooked in preference for someone like a leon bailey. would suck if that happened. REALLY SUCK! 

Edited February 7, 20188 yr by enigma

Chelsea greats? Highly unlikely. I wouldn't be surprised if they played less than a dozen games for Chelsea and then get sold. Chalobah was a very solid midfielder who looked a good prospect. Look what happened there. They both need to go out on loan and dominate. 

Edited February 7, 20188 yr by Famous CFC

Would love to see them get minutes - but everyone can't forget that under the Roman reign, he's going to want players who can win "now", and not in the future. Which usually means lengthy loan spells. Hopefully we handle their futures better than we did KDB's...

2 hours ago, Famous CFC said:

Chelsea greats? Highly unlikely. I wouldn't be surprised if they played less than a dozen games for Chelsea and then get sold. Chalobah was a very solid midfielder who looked a good prospect. Look what happened there. They both need to go out on loan and dominate. 

Thesd two are absolute light years ahead of Chalobah, would be like comparing quality of life in Ipswich to Sydney.

2 hours ago, Famous CFC said:

Chelsea greats? Highly unlikely. I wouldn't be surprised if they played less than a dozen games for Chelsea and then get sold. Chalobah was a very solid midfielder who looked a good prospect. Look what happened there. They both need to go out on loan and dominate. 

chalobah was decent, but he did nothing special. he was just your average cm. 

Ampadu already looks a better player than Chalobah

Great to have you back, Star.  I miss your inside information.

53 minutes ago, Argo said:

Thesd two are absolute light years ahead of Chalobah, would be like comparing quality of life in Ipswich to Sydney.

What's wrong with Ipswich? 

I'd argue the group with RLC, Christensen, Izzy Brown, Musonda, Boga, Solanke, Tammy, Aina, Jay Dasilva etc. were as good as these lads, if not better, and only the one player has made it to date. CHO and Ampadu lok the most likely to make it but i can't see many more from the current group. Maybe Sterling. 

12 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

I'd argue the group with RLC, Christensen, Izzy Brown, Musonda, Boga, Solanke, Tammy, Aina, Jay Dasilva etc. were as good as these lads, if not better, and only the one player has made it to date.

I have to disagree.

Hudson-Odoi is the best youth player I've ever seen coming up through our ranks (didn't watch enough of Terry's uprising). Many youngsters are flashy, might have superb technical skills individually and/or be physically very talented (especially compared to other youth players), but they lack both decision making, composure and productiveness in the final third. Hudson-Odoi has that (in abundance - I'd argue he's top of the crop individually as well), but he's also super effective. Every touch he makes has a purpose - and he has end product. He fits the modern attacker to a T, having both the individual abilites and also the decision making in the final third.

Mason Mount is another player I've been extremely impressed with. He has produced at every level (U17, U19, U23 and now he's the best player for Vitesse). His biggest problem is probably that he's not quite fast enough to be a speedy winger, and that most teams doesn't play with an outright number 10 anymore, so he will need to adapt (maybe to a box-to-box role). But in my mind he's by far a more talented and productive player than Musonda, Brown and Boga (the players you mentioned in his 'position').

Ampadu is another Christensen for me. By far the most talented defensive player we've seen since him, at least. He's so good that he's basically a plug-and-play player in Conte's system at 17, performing both as a midfield player and a defender. His most stand out feature is probably that he doesn't make mistakes, and that's rare for young defenders. His floor is in my opinion a lot higher than every player you mentioned bar Christensen. He will almost certainly at least become a servicable player for a Premiership club. His ceiling, based on his technical ability and composure, is a top quality player for a top club, hopefully for us. Christensen was almost certainly going to be a top player barring any injuries, and Ampadu gives out the same vibe for me.

Edited February 8, 20188 yr by opinionsarelike

Welcome back Star,  we miss your insight and info. Plenty of the older crew appearing in the past week or so. Good to see.

I think Ampadu may end up playing a bigger role before the year is out CHO is a bit further away but he could get some minutes too.

11 hours ago, opinionsarelike said:

I have to disagree.

Hudson-Odoi is the best youth player I've ever seen coming up through our ranks (didn't watch enough of Terry's uprising). Many youngsters are flashy, might have superb technical skills individually and/or be physically very talented (especially compared to other youth players), but they lack both decision making, composure and productiveness in the final third. Hudson-Odoi has that (in abundance - I'd argue he's top of the crop individually as well), but he's also super effective. Every touch he makes has a purpose - and he has end product. He fits the modern attacker to a T, having both the individual abilites and also the decision making in the final third.

Mason Mount is another player I've been extremely impressed with. He has produced at every level (U17, U19, U23 and now he's the best player for Vitesse). His biggest problem is probably that he's not quite fast enough to be a speedy winger, and that most teams doesn't play with an outright number 10 anymore, so he will need to adapt (maybe to a box-to-box role). But in my mind he's by far a more talented and productive player than Musonda, Brown and Boga (the players you mentioned in his 'position').

Ampadu is another Christensen for me. By far the most talented defensive player we've seen since him, at least. He's so good that he's basically a plug-and-play player in Conte's system at 17, performing both as a midfield player and a defender. His most stand out feature is probably that he doesn't make mistakes, and that's rare for young defenders. His floor is in my opinion a lot higher than every player you mentioned bar Christensen. He will almost certainly at least become a servicable player for a Premiership club. His ceiling, based on his technical ability and composure, is a top quality player for a top club, hopefully for us. Christensen was almost certainly going to be a top player barring any injuries, and Ampadu gives out the same vibe for me.

You haven't really disagreed with me here.. Just rambled a few paragraphs for the sake of it.

If you read back i said Ampadu and CHO will make it from the current crop but you've cropped that bit out for some strange reason. 

With Mount being on loan i wouldn't class him as from the current crop. I was looking at the ones that played in the Checkatrade trophy. Having brought him up i doubt he'll make it at Chelsea though and be much similar to Musonda. 

Trying to disagree for the sake of disagreeing when actually agreeing with me about CHO and Ampadu??

Two best very talented boys... We must everything do for keep them in the team, and mostly they need to play, because they are stronger that Baka, Pedro, Fabregas, even Luiz... 

But Antonio Conte prefer the sh**t experience.... So that with another coach these players would play lot of games..

27 minutes ago, Cyborg7 said:

Two best very talented boys... We must everything do for keep them in the team, and mostly they need to play, because they are stronger that Baka, Pedro, Fabregas, even Luiz... 

But Antonio Conte prefer the sh**t experience.... So that with another coach these players would play lot of games..

Yeah it's all Conte's fault 'cos prior to him arriving at Chelsea the youth have always been given plenty of chances.

 

14 minutes ago, Nibs said:

Yeah it's all Conte's fault 'cos prior to him arriving at Chelsea the youth have always been given plenty of chances.

 

I'd argue he's given more chances to youth then any Chelsea coach since Roman arrived. 

50 minutes ago, Nibs said:

Yeah it's all Conte's fault 'cos prior to him arriving at Chelsea the youth have always been given plenty of chances.

 

Before him we have never had , youngs as well talented... RLC in 2015 for example wasn't also strong than Ramires, or Oscar... Neither Christensen wasn't also strong than JT, Ivanovic or Cahill... 

While now Hudson-Odoi can contenders with Pedro easily for me, same for Ampadu with Bakayoko or Luiz

19 minutes ago, Cyborg7 said:

Before him we have never had , youngs as well talented... RLC in 2015 for example wasn't also strong than Ramires, or Oscar... Neither Christensen wasn't also strong than JT, Ivanovic or Cahill... 

While now Hudson-Odoi can contenders with Pedro easily for me, same for Ampadu with Bakayoko or Luiz

We have had some really good youngsters since about 2009 and our record of winning FA Youth Cup 6 times in last 8 years backs that up.

I could give you a pretty long list of players who many thought were good enough from that period to challenge for a first team place. Don't get me wrong, I too rate Hudson-Adoi and would like to see him get game time now ahead of the likes of Pedro, but it is easy to get carried away and for large parts of the game against League 2 Lincoln he was kept fairly quiet.

 

1 hour ago, ForeverCarefree said:

I'd argue he's given more chances to youth then any Chelsea coach since Roman arrived. 

I think Ancelotti takes that one. Did things like starting Josh Mceachran away at Marseille in a big group stage game. I'd argue that Conte needs to give more opportunities than he is doing with some of the young talent we have.