6 minutes ago, Kantesmini said:

The main way of making said moneys back is by keeping the club amongst the best in the world otherwise their investment goes down the drain, Plus the written agreements that they have to spend a certain figure over 10yrs

I agree . But our success was due to billions from Roman and even with that, we rarely made a profit.

Mind you, one of our investors is a property developer.

16 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

I agree . But our success was due to billions from Roman and even with that, we rarely made a profit.

Mind you, one of our investors is a property developer.

Since ffp weve been one of the best, The main draw back is a small stadium

Hence they will probs do something about it at some point as well

Probably end up in this super league before FFP sorts itself out! all we have to do is sell some players when we bring others in, no debt etc and a very good academy

We've spent a fat wedge already, They've ticked all the question boxes already, Last bit of concern would be about it being kept at this level etc

New owners should just bring a better level of functionality to everything because as you say were no longer a billionaires play toy, we're now a far richer company's one instead!

On 06/08/2022 at 11:00, ducavis said:

Roman got Boehly to commit to a  £1.75b investment in the new stadium, youth facilities, ladies & the men’s team. Let’s assume £1b has been set aside for the stadium, he has £750m to play with regarding the other 3 aspects. I just wonder if he blows £300m+ in one summer, what’s to say they don’t turn off the tap going forward & point to these new signings.
Let’s get real the club is not profitable, so I wonder where fresh investments going forward is going to come from. Seems to be a gamble, and I find it hard to be excited because we don’t have the revenue to sustain this level of spending 

Well yes, it goes without saying we won't spend these figures every summer but even Roman closed the purse strings and operated on reasonably small net spends after the first few years, whenever we did spend big it was largely covered by sales (2014 Lukaku and Luiz funding Costa, Cesc and Luis, 2017 Costa, Matic and Oscar covering that fateful spend, Hazard and Morata 2020 and Tomori, Guehi, Tammy funding Lukaku's return *gulp*).

Hopefully when the time comes for the "next stage" we evolve the squad better, as we got that badly wrong circa 07-11. 

Edited August 8, 20223 yr by Argo

6 hours ago, Kantesmini said:

Since ffp weve been one of the best, The main draw back is a small stadium

Hence they will probs do something about it at some point as well

Probably end up in this super league before FFP sorts itself out! all we have to do is sell some players when we bring others in, no debt etc and a very good academy

We've spent a fat wedge already, They've ticked all the question boxes already, Last bit of concern would be about it being kept at this level etc

New owners should just bring a better level of functionality to everything because as you say were no longer a billionaires play toy, we're now a far richer company's one instead!

The main draw back was the propensity of the directors to waste hundreds of millions on bad buys and inflated salaries.

"Loss of income" from match day revenue, due to having a smaller stadium than our rivals, is very small beer in comparison, and is in any case vastly overshadowed as a revenue stream by TV money and commercial contracts.

19 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

The main draw back was the propensity of the directors to waste hundreds of millions on bad buys and inflated salaries.

"Loss of income" from match day revenue, due to having a smaller stadium than our rivals, is very small beer in comparison, and is in any case vastly overshadowed as a revenue stream by TV money and commercial contracts.

Well thats all been paid off and now we have a clean slate, I would say that the plans from a few years back would of brought in loads of rev, Not just from football games and also had a hotel and flats etc

But yeah tv money, Sponsers and merch also, No idea about the breakdown amounts but new stadium with 20k season tickets plus all extra revs probably get close to £50m extra a year 

We could buy a championship player once a year for that at this rate so on its own it does look like small spuds but combined with all other revs gives us a bit more sustainability 

1 hour ago, Kantesmini said:

Well thats all been paid off and now we have a clean slate, I would say that the plans from a few years back would of brought in loads of rev, Not just from football games and also had a hotel and flats etc

But yeah tv money, Sponsers and merch also, No idea about the breakdown amounts but new stadium with 20k season tickets plus all extra revs probably get close to £50m extra a year 

We could buy a championship player once a year for that at this rate so on its own it does look like small spuds but combined with all other revs gives us a bit more sustainability 

Spot on about the extra revenue buying us a championship player mate

 

i like it 

5 hours ago, azpi28 said:

 

i like it 

Electric fence going up tomorrow

Bring back the benches and cars parked behind the goals....

35 minutes ago, dkw said:

Bring back the benches and cars parked behind the goals....

They weren't even benches after 85 just concrete slabs or piledrivers as we called them cause they could play havoc if you had Farmer Giles.. No other club even non league had to sit on concrete slabs 🤣

10 hours ago, bluehaze said:

They weren't even benches after 85 just concrete slabs or piledrivers as we called them cause they could play havoc if you had Farmer Giles.. No other club even non league had to sit on concrete slabs 🤣

I think calling them benches was a PR masterstroke, calling them pain inducing nightmares in winter would have been more accurate...

 

1 minute ago, dkw said:

I think calling them benches was a PR masterstroke, calling them pain inducing nightmares in winter would have been more accurate...

 

I mentioned this in the vintage section concrete slabs plus a massive fence and open air urinals the joys of the West Stand. 🤣

 

8 minutes ago, bluehaze said:

I mentioned this in the vintage section concrete slabs plus a massive fence and open air urinals the joys of the West Stand. 🤣

 

Oh christ I had blanked that memory out, the lovely acrid whiff on any day above 15 degrees was delightful....

5 minutes ago, dkw said:

Oh christ I had blanked that memory out, the lovely acrid whiff on any day above 15 degrees was delightful....

Remeber it well.

20 hours ago, azpi28 said:

 

i like it 

Are these the stadium renovations we were told would cost over a billion? 

1 hour ago, Backbiter said:

Are these the stadium renovations we were told would cost over a billion? 

Get Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen in and his famed MDF bodge job

5 hours ago, Ballack & Blu said:

Get Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen in and his famed MDF bodge job

Handy Andy is available.

A bit of Premier League history. What a brilliant videoclip..

https://www.instagram.com/p/ChRWAsAoCB9/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

 

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1559060509911093248?s=20&t=gCYIhSFogjg7YAOjjjELFA

Chelsea financials and FFP. Interesting read.

Not sure if this was already posted, if so apologies for doubling up.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/entrepreneurship/the-billionaire-living-out-his-inner-ted-lasso-20220815-p5b9sy.html

 

Just making the point again and again that making money out of the club doesn't mean making a profit, in fact at least for tax purposes a loss is better. Making money means having the value of the investment go up. Abramovitch made a capital gain that would have easily offset his loans had he been allowed to keep it, at least I think he did, haven't had time to check the numbers carefully. Boehly and Clearlake will be the same.

To have the value of the club go up you need to win competitions, have star players that you can market etc. The missing link for Chelsea is the stadium.

Chelsea have historically made money from player sales and this has come in part through youth development, not too different to fattening lambs as a business model. So the academy really should be supported likewise buying players like Chucky (kind of american name anyway) and that Inter Italian lad we are keen on.  

Edited August 16, 20223 yr by ozboy

Another thing ozboy is when they bought us for lets say a nice round figure of £4b, they didnt lose £4b, they gained an asset worth £4b so their actual portfolio has the same value. At the moment loads of companies are buying up assets as it has more value than having cash sitting in the bank.

real assets hold their value better than cash when inflation is afoot. Look it could all easily go wrong. The team has to perform on the one hand there is Man U and on the other Liverpool if you want american owners.

18 minutes ago, ozboy said:

real assets hold their value better than cash when inflation is afoot. Look it could all easily go wrong. The team has to perform on the one hand there is Man U and on the other Liverpool if you want american owners.

absolutely , its a 4bn pounds calculated gamble! thats what these investors do though and good luck to them. 

On 12/08/2022 at 08:55, dkw said:

I think calling them benches was a PR masterstroke, calling them pain inducing nightmares in winter would have been more accurate...

 

They also did wonders for matchday programme sales as sitting on one was a must.