On 30/10/2022 at 20:01, axman2526 said:

Did anyone even think it was possible the new owners could make a first window worse than Roman's boneheaded last summer window of Lukaku and Saul  (loan)?

Yet somehow they knocked it out of the park!

Lukaku 97.5mill plus 350k a week wages on 5 year deal.

Saul loan fee of 8mill plus wages of 250k week covered

2 useless, overrated, injuryprone players. The first with a terrible attitude too.

 

Vs

 

Sterling (overrated, bad attitude) 47.5mill plus 330k a week wages on a 5 year deal.

Koulibaly (overrated, injuryprone) 34mill plus 295k a week wages on a 4 year deal.

Cucurella (overrated) 62mill plus 175k a week wages on a 6 year deal.

Aubameyang (useless, bad attitude) 10mill plus 160k a week on a 2 year deal

Wesley Fofana (injuryprone) 68.5mill plus 200 k a week on a six year deal.

Denis Zakaria (useless), no idea on loan fee but 51k a week to not play.

 

6 useless, overrated and/or injuryprone players. The first plus Auba with terrible attitudes too. Our only hope here is Fofana gets over his injuries as he is actually very good.

 

All that money and our squad got worse after we managed last summer to make the European Champions weaker by breaking our transfer record. Shesh.

 

Kind of disagree that these are 'bad signings'. As others have mentioned it is still early days and it's not as if all of them have been horrible in every game they played. Both Sterling and Cucu had good starts for Chelsea and have only recently dipped in form. There's still time for them to regain their form. Auba is really just a stop gap so I'm not expecting much from him other than increasing our goal tally compared to last season.  Also, it's impossible to predict whether players will get injured so I don't think that can be used to consider a signing bad. Zakaria is really the only one that we can call a bad signing at the moment, the others might grow into their roles over the season.

7 hours ago, enigma said:

Since Sarri, which signings have made the greatest impact and been genuine game changers? Since we lost Hazard, I'm yet to see any game changers and genuine attacking threats after all the money spent. Havertz isn't it, neither is Pulisic, neither is Ziyech, neither was Werner, could go on. 

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8 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Kind of disagree that these are 'bad signings'. As others have mentioned it is still early days and it's not as if all of them have been horrible in every game they played. Both Sterling and Cucu had good starts for Chelsea and have only recently dipped in form. There's still time for them to regain their form. Auba is really just a stop gap so I'm not expecting much from him other than increasing our goal tally compared to last season.  Also, it's impossible to predict whether players will get injured so I don't think that can be used to consider a signing bad. Zakaria is really the only one that we can call a bad signing at the moment, the others might grow into their roles over the season.

Some of the older players that we signed could certainly be questioned but I think those decisions were made quickly due to losing key experienced players like Rudi in the summer. Whether they work out remains to be seen, and I suspect not all of them will. I am more optimistic about the younger players we signed though. I do think Cucurella will come good eventually, and Fofana will too hopefully once he puts the injury behind him. Also we shouldn't forget young signings like Chukwuemeka, Casedei, Hutchinson, and Slonina that look like good prospects for the future.

Have to go back to Jose Mk 2 for good signings - Costa & Fabergas, and then Conte getting Kante. However Jose let Salah & Debruyne leave (a very bad move but he did win us the prem).

Since then not one world class signing, no undiscovered talent, no good buys, no players that can make a difference like EH, countered only by SFL season with transfer ban forcing club to seriously dip into the Academy for the 1st time ever yielding the likes of Mount, James, Chalobah, and in turn paving the way for Gallagher & Broja. 

Like any business without proper recruitment there will be performance issues. 

 

On 01/11/2022 at 12:37, forbzy said:

Some of the older players that we signed could certainly be questioned but I think those decisions were made quickly due to losing key experienced players like Rudi in the summer. Whether they work out remains to be seen, and I suspect not all of them will. I am more optimistic about the younger players we signed though. I do think Cucurella will come good eventually, and Fofana will too hopefully once he puts the injury behind him. Also we shouldn't forget young signings like Chukwuemeka, Casedei, Hutchinson, and Slonina that look like good prospects for the future.

Omari Hutchinson is playing like Hazard mark II for the development team and in training but can’t get a minute off the bench during a 4-1 rout or even a dead rubber in the UCL, not got big hopes for Potter’s youth inclusion if they can’t even get a chance in these moments. 

1 hour ago, Term_X said:

Omari Hutchinson is playing like Hazard mark II for the development team and in training but can’t get a minute off the bench during a 4-1 rout or even a dead rubber in the UCL, not got big hopes for Potter’s youth inclusion if they can’t even get a chance in these moments. 

Brighton fair enough, he was not allowed to play tonight as he was not put in our CL squad and needs to be at Chelsea for 2 years to qualify for youth exception 

45 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Brighton fair enough, he was not allowed to play tonight as he was not put in our CL squad and needs to be at Chelsea for 2 years to qualify for youth exception 

Exactly. I suspect and hope that Hutchinson will get his chance in the Carabao cup next week.

14 hours ago, General said:

Have to go back to Jose Mk 2 for good signings - Costa & Fabergas, and then Conte getting Kante. However Jose let Salah & Debruyne leave (a very bad move but he did win us the prem).

Since then not one world class signing, no undiscovered talent, no good buys, no players that can make a difference like EH, countered only by SFL season with transfer ban forcing club to seriously dip into the Academy for the 1st time ever yielding the likes of Mount, James, Chalobah, and in turn paving the way for Gallagher & Broja. 

Like any business without proper recruitment there will be performance issues. 

 

Thiago Silva would like to disagree. Rüdiger as well turned out really well. I agree with your general point though. Way too few signings that turned out the way we wanted them to.

Cities best call was having football people make the calls. The owners installed people who know what they are doing and give them the power to make calls.

The Saudi state has done the same with Dan Ashworth.

If Todd and Clearlake insist on remaining the ones to make the final call they wont over catch up to them.

Hopefully this delay is because Michael Edwards is coming.

He's only been here a few months but his ownership is going to be very painful for Chelsea I think. Will of course give him the benefit of doubt but the decisions he's made till date on the footballing side of things are totally gash. 

When they said Chelsea was a billionaire's play thing they really didn't know what those words meant. THIS Chelsea we are seeing is now the actual billionaire plaything. Spend £300m for a manager and sack him 2 weeks later. Appoint the next one because of all the British noise about him and how he conducted himself during a transfer chase plus how highly the management at his former club talked about him. (Like they will be slagging off their manager in public) Act amateurish in transfer market and chase your tail all over the place looking to appoint best in class DoF and other football people after sacking near the whole backroom staff you met in place. 

Compare him with Roman's style and its actually night and day yet people seem to think Roman was not the best. 

Boehly and Potter will have this team stagnate mid table,I'm accepting that now.

14 minutes ago, Bluesince66 said:

Boehly and Potter will have this team stagnate mid table,I'm accepting that now.

The best thing Boehly can do, right now, is to stop rewarding inconsistency. 

Mount contract talks? HOLD

Mendy contract talks? HOLD

Jorginho contact talks? HOLD

Kante contact talks? HOLD

 

It seems like that is what Boehly is doing right now and rightfully so. Let's fish out the underperformers and inconsistent players once and for all. 

Such a baffling decision sacking Tuchel, gets worse the more you think of it. Would imagine potter is here for the long haul even if the team misses out on top 4.

Boehly the man who said we will be kings of London and Europe  Has this guy made 1 good decision yet. Im sure the footballing heavy weights from European football are laughing their arses off at him 

He's put all his eggs in the Potter basket, and he won't be willing to accept it was a mistake. I expect we'll be sitting here lamenting the same old sh*t next season when we're struggling for top 6 again.

26 minutes ago, Zeta said:

He's put all his eggs in the Potter basket, and he won't be willing to accept it was a mistake.

Unless the supporters force the issue.

2 minutes ago, Argo said:

Unless the supporters force the issue.

20m severance. 

Getting rid of the underperformers looking far more financially sensible now. 

16 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

20m severance. 

Getting rid of the underperformers looking far more financially sensible now. 

Maybe. But if the fans are making the situation untenable like Spurs fans did with Nuno and Liverpool fans did with Roy then they won't have a choice.

It's such a bizarre one because I read up a lot on Potter's career and tactically speaking this really should be working, the one fear I had is he'd struggle to adapt his mindset to the high expectations at this club and unfortunately it's appearing to be the case.

21 minutes ago, Argo said:

Unless the supporters force the issue.

They are Americans when was the last time they cared about English football fans.

Potter is staying for at least another 3 years.

I backed him at the start because his decisions were still sound and it had some logic behind it but Potter's contract is the worst decision he made and that made all the decisions he made previously into bad ones for me personally. 

18 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

20m severance. 

Getting rid of the underperformers looking far more financially sensible now. 

20mill? He is on 12mill a year his sacking will cost nearly 60mill, plus his staff. 

Plus without someone who actually knows what they are doing to make the call how do we know Todd will actually pick the right manager to move us forward? He may just hire Steven Gerrard for all we know.

2 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

20mill? He is on 12mill a year his sacking will cost nearly 60mill, plus his staff. 

Plus without someone who actually knows what they are doing to make the call how do we know Todd will actually pick the right manager to move us forward? He may just hire Steven Gerrard for all we know.

Boehly probably would because he hasn't got a clue,look how many times he has been rejected for important positions so far.

3 minutes ago, El regreso said:

They are Americans when was the last time they cared about English football fans.

Potter is staying for at least another 3 years.

If Stamford Bridge is half full they'll have to act. Not only would they have loss of income but also brand damage if it goes on for any real period of time.

5 minutes ago, Argo said:

t's such a bizarre one because I read up a lot on Potter's career and tactically speaking this really should be working, the one fear I had is he'd struggle to adapt his mindset to the high expectations at this club and unfortunately it's appearing to be the case.

Is that really the problem? 

The hate I have for Boehly is reaching unhealthy levels.