4 hours ago, enigma said:

I do think we've become spoilt over the years, but this is a new period. You cannot just snap fingers and win the league. Look at Guardiola at city. First season in charge he faltered and thijgs went wrong, City looked bad and he was being called a fraud. The following season they win the league.

Anyone who comes in needs time. We may need more or less time, but we are currently sat in 11th, so getting top four and closing the pts gap next season is the main goal. Forget about winning the league.

I wish some of you would stop saying this because literally nobody is even asking for that. Where are you even getting the idea that any of us expect to even be challenging for the league any time soon? It's not even on my radar. Also, using City as an example is a terrible one. They finished 3rd, won 23 games and scored 80 goals, we are 11th with 10 wins and 30 goals. 

7 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

That's 7 isn't it

Aye it is, article did not mention who the other 3 are. I would guess Silva is not included due to age. Probably Chilwell, and hopefully Mount if he signs a new deal.

we better start booing whenever the screen show Todd Bohley at the bridge

 

and next season if Pochettino loses a couple games the atmosphere can get really toxic real quick

1 hour ago, charierre said:

Very simplistic. The days when true fans really mattered have long since gone. We have 28000 season ticket holders. What are these supposed to do, give them up only for them to fall into the hands of fans who are on the waiting list or corporate clientele? This leaves around 10000 tickets for fans who can't get/afford season tickets. These of course could stop attending only for their tickets to fall into the hands of more tourists. The Premier League sells.

Milan fans emptied San Siro to get Berlusconi out. Although slightly different Arsenal fans protested and cried for Wenger's sacking for years but didn't get their way until the fans started voting with their feet.

Even without giving up tickets not turning up to a game will cause brand damage (and loss of refreshment/megastore income), the only way billionaire owners will listen is if their bottom line is under threat. Either way if it ever gets to the point the majority of fans want the owners out a full stadium would be the worst and most counterproductive thing we could do. I get it's easier for me as i "only" have a membership but if i get to the point some here are at the club won't get a penny from me.

15 minutes ago, cfcforeverfan said:

we better start booing whenever the screen show Todd Bohley at the bridge

Problem is, will he hear it over Eghbali informing him how much richer the matchday takings has made him?

The moment when Ryan Reynolds is an infintely more competent owner than supposed finance expert and LA Dodgers owner Todd Boehly

17 minutes ago, Argo said:

Milan fans emptied San Siro to get Berlusconi out. Although slightly different Arsenal fans protested and cried for Wenger's sacking for years but didn't get their way until the fans started voting with their feet.

Even without giving up tickets not turning up to a game will cause brand damage (and loss of refreshment/megastore income), the only way billionaire owners will listen is if their bottom line is under threat. Either way if it ever gets to the point the majority of fans want the owners out a full stadium would be the worst and most counterproductive thing we could do. I get it's easier for me as i "only" have a membership but if i get to the point some here are at the club won't get a penny from me.

Personally I’ve not stepped foot into any ground since 1997( family reasons) having attended matches for 30 years, I know quite a few who similarly now longer attend. Have I been missed? No because my place is now taken over by new fans. In these days of all ticket matches voting with your feet, like the old days, no longer has the same effect as it did when you turned upon the day and paid at the turnstile.

52 minutes ago, Argo said:

Problem is, will he hear it over Eghbali informing him how much richer the matchday takings has made him?

oh I am sure matchday takings will not be able to compensate all the loss on advertisement 

 

no company would want their product to be advertised in a toxic brand

matchday revenue doesnt mean much anymore these days, compare to TV revenue and advertisement on shirt/stadium

Especially given how small our stadium is

8 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

The moment when Ryan Reynolds is an infintely more competent owner than supposed finance expert and LA Dodgers owner Todd Boehly

Wrexham spend a league one budget in the national league

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

Wrexham spend a league one budget in the national league

We spend record amounts and look like we are heading to league one 🤣

17 hours ago, cfcforeverfan said:

oh I am sure matchday takings will not be able to compensate all the loss on advertisement 

 

no company would want their product to be advertised in a toxic brand

matchday revenue doesnt mean much anymore these days, compare to TV revenue and advertisement on shirt/stadium

Especially given how small our stadium is

I get where you’re coming from but hardly a toxic brand.

So our main corporate partners are 3, and Nike. D’you think people are gonna chuck there Samsung phones into a pond because we lack a decent centre forward?

Refuse to wear Nike Airforce trainers out of principal cause we’ve spunked too much dough on wingers? 

 

The amount of back tracking there's gonna be in this thread when we're challenging for the premier league next season will be hilarious.

1 hour ago, Fruit Bat said:

I get where you’re coming from but hardly a toxic brand.

So our main corporate partners are 3, and Nike. D’you think people are gonna chuck there Samsung phones into a pond because we lack a decent centre forward?

Refuse to wear Nike Airforce trainers out of principal cause we’ve spunked too much dough on wingers? 

 

Man United lost a bunch of sponsors during Glazer era because of constant underperforming and also the toxic environment between the fans in the online community

the protest in the Old Trafford is another big blow to their brand image

no one will stop using phones or buying Nike because of Chelsea, but they wouldnt want to associate their brand with us too if we continuously to be toxic and achieve nothing on the pitch - which will be the case under Pochettino

14 hours ago, bisright1 said:

Wrexham spend a league one budget in the national league

Yeah but at least they spent it well, and hired a competent manager (for that level). We've spent enough to challenge for a title and now we're going to finish in the bottom half 😂

Heard the news of the 2bn expansion plan of the bridge and I'm excited

Edited April 23, 20233 yr by Frankie8Lampard

3 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Yeah but at least they spent it well, and hired a competent manager (for that level). We've spent enough to challenge for a title and now we're going to finish in the bottom half 😂

"Graham Potter's not bad, but he's no Phil Parkinson ... " 

20 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

"Graham Potter's not bad, but he's no Phil Parkinson ... " 

For that level parkinsons a decent choice 😂 potter for tuchel will never make sense though 

4 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Yeah but at least they spent it well, and hired a competent manager (for that level). We've spent enough to challenge for a title and now we're going to finish in the bottom half 😂

Spending a lot of money actually doesn't make a team challenge for a title. You actually have to buy the right players, preferably in the right order, while also selling players, or cause will happen.

But it seems that you and mr Boehly are in agreement that as long as you spend money you'll magically win things. Just one more change in the circus director role and Marc Cucurella will suddenly be the new Ashley Cole and Kai Havertz win the PL top scorer title.

Edited April 23, 20233 yr by SwedishEntity

10 hours ago, timetowaste said:

The amount of back tracking there's gonna be in this thread when we're challenging for the premier league next season will be hilarious.

If it happens, then I welcome everybody to mock me for a year, because I think that is pure fantasy.

10 hours ago, cfcforeverfan said:

Man United lost a bunch of sponsors during Glazer era because of constant underperforming and also the toxic environment between the fans in the online community

the protest in the Old Trafford is another big blow to their brand image

no one will stop using phones or buying Nike because of Chelsea, but they wouldnt want to associate their brand with us too if we continuously to be toxic and achieve nothing on the pitch - which will be the case under Pochettino

Can you please define the word toxic?

Underperforming yes. Toxic no

11 hours ago, cfcforeverfan said:

Man United lost a bunch of sponsors during Glazer era because of constant underperforming and also the toxic environment between the fans in the online community

the protest in the Old Trafford is another big blow to their brand image

no one will stop using phones or buying Nike because of Chelsea, but they wouldnt want to associate their brand with us too if we continuously to be toxic and achieve nothing on the pitch - which will be the case under Pochettino

Do you honestly think world wide brands are going to be put off by what some geezers say on the internet 😂. In the board meeting Coca Cola, McDonalds etc ok we won't invest in Man United one of the worlds biggest names in sport where just for one billboard matchday at Old Trafford the  amount of people worldwide will see that and we can potentially make millions in 90 minutes. Plus brand awareness but no it's not worth it because people in the Sudan are arguing with people in Peru about whether Fred is an underappreciated  genius who doesn't get the accolades he deserves.

2 hours ago, bluehaze said:

Do you honestly think world wide brands are going to be put off by what some geezers say on the internet 😂. In the board meeting Coca Cola, McDonalds etc ok we won't invest in Man United one of the worlds biggest names in sport where just for one billboard matchday at Old Trafford the  amount of people worldwide will see that and we can potentially make millions in 90 minutes. Plus brand awareness but no it's not worth it because people in the Sudan are arguing with people in Peru about whether Fred is an underappreciated  genius who doesn't get the accolades he deserves.

We will see in the next 5 years 

 

numbers don’t lie, let’s see how much sponsorship will drop when we keep having toxic fans community arguing with each other on every social media and in the stadium because of how sh*t the owner turn us into

4 hours ago, bluehaze said:

Do you honestly think world wide brands are going to be put off by what some geezers say on the internet 😂. In the board meeting Coca Cola, McDonalds etc ok we won't invest in Man United one of the worlds biggest names in sport where just for one billboard matchday at Old Trafford the  amount of people worldwide will see that and we can potentially make millions in 90 minutes. Plus brand awareness but no it's not worth it because people in the Sudan are arguing with people in Peru about whether Fred is an underappreciated  genius who doesn't get the accolades he deserves.

yes - brands, governments and individuals are impacted by public perceptions. 

2 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

yes - brands, governments and individuals are impacted by public perceptions. 

Not contrasting though surely and only if the converse action is good for them as well.

Take 3 for example. They suspended their sponsorship not on moral grounds, nor on the perceptions of fans in the press and social media. They did this because it was good PR to be seen to be doing this. But they didn't cancel, their moral compasses hadn't been affected that much.

Similarly now that the deal has resumed, for now, they are no longer hesitant due to contrasting fan opinion around the Roman regime.

I think in some instances you're right, in that it can be less damaging for the company to just move away but I am not sure in a lot of cases.