1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

Here is the thing. City deny their 115 charges, Everton denied both their first and now second charges, Forest their first lot.

Us? We self reported. Our owners self reported to Uefa, who dealt with it swiftly, and to the PL and FA. So what is the delay? We admitted guilt, so why are we not even charged yet?

It should be quick, here is your fine, here is your points deduction, thank you moving on.

The powers that be are taking the piss.

My question is why now? Swear the under the table payments to Christensen's dad and Hazard's agent was news back in 2019. 

Ironic how all these so called news break out during the boring to tears International break, there are too much blank space to fill, what's better than some Chelsea + Russians bashing? I'm sure Mariana is no longer lives anywhere near London, so punishes the Club instead? It's just laughable City could live without concerns with 110+ charges been thrown at them, will be years if not decades before anything could hurt them.

I'm so confused about the concept of the club and fans paying the price even thought it has already been sold to new owners. The most they should do is a fine, a point deduction would be ridiculous when no one in the current club was involved in those past actions. Unless Boehly and co already knew about this before buying the club

Also the infighting between different fan associated organizations of the club is really going to make things toxic over the next few months. This is going to be a long summer and the season isnt even done yet.

Perhaps Clearlake bought so many players so quickly, anticipating several transfer bans.

10 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Also the infighting between different fan associated organizations of the club is really going to make things toxic over the next few months. This is going to be a long summer and the season isnt even done yet.

From yesterday's London Standard.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-fan-advisory-board-supporters-trust-civil-war-b1147493.html

Someone who was at the Leicester match stated the atmosphere was the worst he's ever 

True passionate match going fans are priced out and they are going to be priced out even further the way Clearlake are behaving. 

7 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Someone who was at the Leicester match stated the atmosphere was the worst he's ever 

True passionate match going fans are priced out and they are going to be priced out even further the way Clearlake are behaving. 

Are therefore the non-true passionate match going fans causing that toxic atmosphere? 

2 minutes ago, Valerie said:

Are therefore the non-true passionate match going fans causing that toxic atmosphere? 

Tried my best to phrase that without rustling a few jimmies. 

I don't think that it is a simple question of true passionate vs non-true passionate, which I don't think is a correct division to begin with. But, it is true that the Leicester game was a bit toxic in the stands, just as Brentford it was the more toxic away game I've been to in years, and we can agree that most of the away fans would fall in the true passionate category.

It is also true that the Club is doing bizarre things regarding tickets for supporters and supporters clubs. We used to be all together in the Shed Lower alongside other supporters clubs, now we are disseminated across the SL, MHL, WL and EU. We were also sent to the East Upper in the Leicester game, when no one had asked for that stand. You take what you are offered. It is also a feeling that there are less tickets available to the fans for away games.

Overall, I think there's this tiredness amongst the match going fans, which is understandable given all the sh*t that's been happening since the gov took Chelsea away from Roman Abramovich. Also, the football being what it is and not having a coach that connects with the fans, is not helping us out. Thus, we are going grumpier to the matches, more going to meet the mates and have a few beers than for the football in itself. There's a disconnect between the club and match going fans. And this is also leading to many season tickets and usual match going fans to not be bothered and sell their tickets to fans that don't usually go very often and to tourists.

19 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

I'm so confused about the concept of the club and fans paying the price even thought it has already been sold to new owners. The most they should do is a fine, a point deduction would be ridiculous when no one in the current club was involved in those past actions. Unless Boehly and co already knew about this before buying the club

Clearlake self-reported this to the League when they were reviewing the club records as part of the purchase. So, there must have been a lot of discussions at that point, and Clearlake also put aside a sizeable amount anticipating a fine as a result. Based on that I suspect they already have some idea about what punishment would be handed out and came to an agreement as part of the purchase. Otherwise just imagine the lawsuits that could emerge against both the league and the government.  If the league and government hadn't been involved in the sale of the club, then things might be different as it would then be between Clearlake and Roman. But that wasn't the case, and I highly doubt that Clearlake would have moved ahead without some sort of documented assurances over the self-reported issues. 

For now we haven't even been charged with anything so it is entirely speculation.

13 minutes ago, forbzy said:

Clearlake self-reported this to the League when they were reviewing the club records as part of the purchase. So, there must have been a lot of discussions at that point, and Clearlake also put aside a sizeable amount anticipating a fine as a result. Based on that I suspect they already have some idea about what punishment would be handed out and came to an agreement as part of the purchase. Otherwise just imagine the lawsuits that could emerge against both the league and the government.  If the league and government hadn't been involved in the sale of the club, then things might be different as it would then be between Clearlake and Roman. But that wasn't the case, and I highly doubt that Clearlake would have moved ahead without some sort of documented assurances over the self-reported issues. 

For now we haven't even been charged with anything so it is entirely speculation.

Exactly. A points deduction seems unlikely. At worse a fine. 

I'm more worried about the potential PSR breach next year. 

 

In today's horse hit, we need to generate £100m in pure profit this summer. 

I can see why the club's stance is being confident in complying with PSR given we already have £40m (Hall and Broja loan) without having to sell Gallagher, Maatsen, Chalobah, etc. 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/chelsea-could-face-a-crippling-financial-position-new-analysis-shows-without-major-sales-psr-penalties-loom/

On 28/03/2024 at 21:31, Sconnie Blue said:

In today's horse hit, we need to generate £100m in pure profit this summer. 

I can see why the club's stance is being confident in complying with PSR given we already have £40m (Hall and Broja loan) without having to sell Gallagher, Maatsen, Chalobah, etc. 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/chelsea-could-face-a-crippling-financial-position-new-analysis-shows-without-major-sales-psr-penalties-loom/

Recce to Madrid for a 100 mill should cover it.

On 25/03/2024 at 20:50, Sconnie Blue said:

My question is why now? Swear the under the table payments to Christensen's dad and Hazard's agent was news back in 2019. 

I think those payments were only revealed in those leaked documents that were handed to The Guardian.

On 26/03/2024 at 14:26, RMH said:

I don't think that it is a simple question of true passionate vs non-true passionate, which I don't think is a correct division to begin with. But, it is true that the Leicester game was a bit toxic in the stands, just as Brentford it was the more toxic away game I've been to in years, and we can agree that most of the away fans would fall in the true passionate category.

It is also true that the Club is doing bizarre things regarding tickets for supporters and supporters clubs. We used to be all together in the Shed Lower alongside other supporters clubs, now we are disseminated across the SL, MHL, WL and EU. We were also sent to the East Upper in the Leicester game, when no one had asked for that stand. You take what you are offered. It is also a feeling that there are less tickets available to the fans for away games.

Overall, I think there's this tiredness amongst the match going fans, which is understandable given all the sh*t that's been happening since the gov took Chelsea away from Roman Abramovich. Also, the football being what it is and not having a coach that connects with the fans, is not helping us out. Thus, we are going grumpier to the matches, more going to meet the mates and have a few beers than for the football in itself. There's a disconnect between the club and match going fans. And this is also leading to many season tickets and usual match going fans to not be bothered and sell their tickets to fans that don't usually go very often and to tourists.

Agreed mate, I usually sell the odd game on the ticket exchange, this season I've sold loads, including today v Burnley. We leave the pub reluctantly before most games !

On 28/03/2024 at 11:01, Sconnie Blue said:

In today's horse hit, we need to generate £100m in pure profit this summer. 

I can see why the club's stance is being confident in complying with PSR given we already have £40m (Hall and Broja loan) without having to sell Gallagher, Maatsen, Chalobah, etc. 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/chelsea-could-face-a-crippling-financial-position-new-analysis-shows-without-major-sales-psr-penalties-loom/

if that is the amount we need to generate, then we certainly have the potential sales there. Challenge would be getting all that done by end of June.

3 minutes ago, forbzy said:

if that is the amount we need to generate, then we certainly have the potential sales there. Challenge would be getting all that done by end of June.

Hearing since there is an international tournament the deadline may be extended.  A lot of international managers will not permit transfer business to be conducted while the Euros is taking place.

To all the sporting directors and board members

But they're billonaires, they know what they are doing..........like the many billionaire owners that have sunk football clubs over the years.

Who ever we go after this summer will convince me of their true ambitions.

If we target more inexperience, we're finished. 

19 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Who ever we go after this summer will convince me of their true ambitions.

If we target more inexperience, we're finished. 

Some suggestions that the club are anticipating a transfer ban over the issues from years back that they self-reported. 

A good turn-out for the Chelsea Supporters Trust meeting. Will post later about was discussed.

WATP.

 

I still think the project that we have has the potential to work, but we need some communication from the board. Even if Boehly and Egbhali haven't ran a football club before we have appointed people who have been been in football before. They can't expect Chelsea to be in the position we're in and not expect the fans to be fuming, the longer the "trust me bro" approach goes on, the more anger is going to be directed at them.

The only thing that grind my gears abit is how much abuse Boehly is getting at the moment, he’s merely the face of ownership. At least with Boehly you know he is ambitious looking at his record in baseball, the ones I fear the most is the ones that hides in the background such as Wyss.