25 minutes ago, Valerie said:

@Munkworthhas been very reticent about his new job, makes you think....

 

Yeah I mow the lawn there. 

 I haven't read through all of the posts so apologies if I'm writing about stuff which has already been mentioned.  If and when the sale of the club goes ahead how much say will the Chelsea Pitch Owners have? The CPO has a loan from the club and that could be called in. If the loan is called in, who would the money go to? The new owners, Roman (probably not) or to the Government? It will be interesting to see what the CPO board has to say.

Thought I'd post this. A quote from the legendary Rangers Manager, Bill Struth. Wise words.

@carrickblue I read your post earlier about the crap Rangers went through and they have come back stronger. We know the hell Rangers went through. WATP

T

5 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

Yeah I mow the lawn there. 

The empties must be hell to mow around.

14 minutes ago, big blue said:

Difference is USA and UK profit from their wars by selling weapons etc. So the human rights issues, and the bombings are brushed over.  The government wouldnt publically release what they recommended to the premier league about the saudi takeover, to protect their relationship 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-58840820

every nation produces and sells weapons, its called defence.

Whoever thinks that these moves by the government are somehow affecting a real life war is deluded. Roman not selling or selling has 0 impact on world events, he was selling so that the club doesn't suffer and they said nope, your club will suffer! Clueless politicians.

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

Whoever thinks that these moves by the government are somehow affecting a real life war is deluded. Roman not selling or selling has 0 impact on world events, 

Can you show me anyone saying it will make a difference ? just one.

7 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Whoever thinks that these moves by the government are somehow affecting a real life war is deluded. Roman not selling or selling has 0 impact on world events, he was selling so that the club doesn't suffer and they said nope, your club will suffer! Clueless politicians.

What about the other 6 that were sanctioned today .... do they also run football clubs?

Get a grip! If you genuinely think that the sanctions had anything to do with making chelsea "suffer", then you are more deluded than many think!

Football had zero to do with the decision.  

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Just now, coco said:

Can you show me anyone saying it will make a difference ? just one.

I had a conversation some days ago with someone that fully bought the whole strategy of "putting pressure on Putin" by hitting everything around him. Now Chelsea fans are being treated as if we're all just Russians that should suffer, I tried to make a distinction between us and a real war going on since there is no common sense connecting the club to something outside of it and I urge the people to wake up a bit by saying that the people that are making the shots in the government are loose cannons at this point.

1 minute ago, nonotnowjim said:

What about the other 6 that were sanctioned today .... do they also run football clubs?

Get a grip! If you genuinely think that the sanctions had anything to do with making chelsea "suffer", then you are more deluded than many think!

Football had zero to do with the decision.  

Whoever thinks that these moves by the government are somehow affecting a real life war is deluded.

Just now, Gol15 said:

Whoever thinks that these moves by the government are somehow affecting a real life war is deluded.

and you then went on to say was done to make the club suffer - which is hyperbolic nonsense. 

 

Just now, nonotnowjim said:

and you then went on to say was done to make the club suffer - which is hyperbolic nonsense. 

 

It's the result of the actions of the government that is suppose to protect its people not punish them for something that they have no control over, but I guess you also don't really know what common sense is...

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

Whoever thinks that these moves by the government are somehow affecting a real life war is deluded.

Which totals one person you heard the other day  

Just now, Gol15 said:

It's the result of the actions of the government that is suppose to protect its people not punish them for something that they have no control over, but I guess you also don't really know what common sense is...

Their is only one person on this planet doing all the damage, why don't you start blaming him?

Just now, coco said:

Their is only one person on this planet doing all the damage, why don't you start blaming him?

I'm blaming the UK government for going after Chelsea FC. You should do the same.

The views by some people on here, around how government is run, with some posters genuinely thinking UK politicians have made a decision to sanction Roman solely to punish Chelsea is scary...

I hope these people are not old enough to vote - as it is genuinely scary to think that those who spout such ignorant and uninformed views have a say in who runs the country!

1 minute ago, nonotnowjim said:

The views by some people on here, around how government is run, with some posters genuinely thinking UK politicians have made a decision to sanction Roman solely to punish Chelsea is scary...

I hope these people are not old enough to vote - as it is genuinely scary to think that those who spout such ignorant and uninformed views have a say in who runs the country!

You can spin it around as much as you like the fact is your government doesn't care to use Chelsea as a political leverage and it doesn't care to treat its fans as if we're somehow responsible for a real life war and that's a f**king disgrace. 

15 minutes ago, coco said:

every nation produces and sells weapons, its called defence.

Is not defence when the bombs are sold so that other nation can bomb children and civilians in Yemen, unless you are making a distinction between those dying in Ukraine and Yemen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-60082788

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/22/british-arms-sales-prolonging-saudi-war-in-yemen-says-oxfam

9 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

It's the result of the actions of the government that is suppose to protect its people not punish them for something that they have no control over, but I guess you also don't really know what common sense is...

You can debate or disagree with the sanctions regime, and argue the merits of it...that is fine. 

But you said...

"and they said nope, your club will suffer! Clueless politicians."

 

That above is a direct quote. So clearly, your post sets out your view that politicians have made the decision to make the club suffer.

This is nonsense.... pure childish nonsense, and shows you have zero clue about how government or such sanctions decisions are taken.

I repeat again, football or Chelsea FC had ZERO to do with the decision to sanction Roman.

Edited March 10, 20224 yr by nonotnowjim

Just now, RMH said:

Is not defence when the bombs are sold so that other nation can bomb children and civilians in Yemen, unless you are making a distinction between those dying in Ukraine and Yemen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-60082788

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/22/british-arms-sales-prolonging-saudi-war-in-yemen-says-oxfam

again, every country does it.

Just now, coco said:

again, every country does it.

And we chose to punish ones over others, it’s called either hypocrisy.

Just now, nonotnowjim said:

You can debate or disagree with the sanctions regime, and argue the merits of it...that is fine. 

But you said... So clearly, your post sets out that you think politicians have made the decision to make the club suffer. It is nonsense, pure childish nonsense, and shows you have zero clue about how government or such sanctions decisions are taken. I repeat again, football or Chelsea FC had ZERO to do with the decision to sanction Roman.

"and they said nope, your club will suffer! Clueless politicians."

 

That above is a direct quote. So clearly, your post sets out your view that politicians have made the decision to make the club suffer.

This is nonsense.... pure childish nonsense, and shows you have zero clue about how government or such sanctions decisions are taken.

I repeat again, football or Chelsea FC had ZERO to do with the decision to sanction Roman.

What they are doing is effectivly making the club suffer, that's the practical result of it. Banning fans from attending matches is making the club suffer. You only create your own deluded reality when you say that "Chelsea FC had zero to do with decision to sanction Roman" they sanctioned every Chelsea fan that doesn't own a season ticket you idiot...

Just now, RMH said:

And we chose to punish ones over others, it’s called either hypocrisy.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/manufacturing/irish-military-exports-now-worth-more-than-37m-1.3993361

11 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

The views by some people on here, around how government is run, with some posters genuinely thinking UK politicians have made a decision to sanction Roman solely to punish Chelsea is scary...

I hope these people are not old enough to vote - as it is genuinely scary to think that those who spout such ignorant and uninformed views have a say in who runs the country!

I don't think anyone is suggesting what was done was done to punish Chelsea. People are suggesting that what was done ends up punishing Chelsea and Chelsea fans the most rather the intended target which is Putin and Roman.

2 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

What they are doing is effectivly making the club suffer, that's the practical result of it. Banning fans from attending matches is making the club suffer. You only create your own deluded reality when you say that "Chelsea FC had zero to do with decision to sanction Roman" they sanctioned every Chelsea fan that doesn't own a season ticket you idiot...

Chelsea are of course impacted by the decision to sanction Roman. That is very different to what you set out, saying that politicians decided to sanction chelsea to "punish" us.

And no, Chelsea fans have not been sanctioned

Your views are juvenile, irrational and shows a clear lack of nuance. The fact that you respond by calling me an "idiot" simply reinforces this view. 

Resorting to name calling is not a good look!