5 hours ago, azpi28 said:

Mason, Reecey, Chalobah, Broja & RLC are children of the club 

you don’t abandon a child or totally destroy them by saying to them over and over again that they’re worthless.

Well make Boehly confess like Plainview if he ever moves on our homegrown English core.

2 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Mount is the litmus test for genuine fans that attend matches and ones 6000 miles away that believe waking up to watch it on the sofa is the same thing.

Frankly that is nonsense. I say that as someone who has spent 25 years getting up at ungodly hours to watch us play and someone who likes the way Mount plays.

2 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Ok Rory Jennings 😄

What a plonker that bloke is. Saddest thing about social media is it has elevated those sort of tools to the rank of expert, when really his view is about as valid as anyone on this forum. 

12 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

What a plonker that bloke is. Saddest thing about social media is it has elevated those sort of tools to the rank of expert, when really his view is about as valid as anyone on this forum. 

Bloke has some horrid takes on football. He even wanted Tuchel gone during preseason. 😄

On 21/01/2023 at 21:23, El regreso said:

So you missed the Ziyech run where he just shot over then, that just didn’t happen then? 
 

that alone was more than what mount has done for as long as I can remember.

The pass that led to that run was from mount.. a cross field pass. As for his run he kept running sideways and didn’t take a shot till the angle was against it … main point DIDNT SCORE.. ziyech also lost the ball countless times.. over hitting or under hitting his pass.. 

Well I'm not a true chelsea supporter because for me mount is just another player and I don't attend many (3 in total) chelsea games. For me Mount hasn't come on this season, lost his place in the England team and may lose it in the Chelsea team if his assists and goals and key passes don't go up. He isn't in the team for what he does in defence thats for sure.

If I compare hime with say Gudjhonsen his goal output is less. I don't have the assist data. Kalou scored more goals every season

So for my non true supporter opinion he needs to have more end product if chelsea are going to compete for titles and he is going to be part of the team. Maybe if the rest of the team becomes more dominant then his contribution will grow. 

And I am sure he is a really nice guy and works really hard and is very talented and is home grown.  

10 minutes ago, ozboy said:

he needs to have more end product if chelsea are going to compete for titles and he is going to be part of the team. Maybe if the rest of the team becomes more dominant then his contribution will grow. 
 

Agreed its dried up this year but didn't he lead Chelsea in goals and assists last season? 

14 goals at 18 years of age in Netherlands. Scored 11 at Derby. 8, 9 and 13 goals in his last 3 seasons here. Those are fantastic numbers for a midfielder.

Also agree he'll improve with competent players around him, he was putting up those kind of numbers in previous season with some proper average players around him, not had players close to the level Mudryk and Felix operate at.

Edited January 23, 20233 yr by RIP Mourinho

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Agreed its dried up this year but didn't he lead Chelsea in goals and assists last season? 

14 goals at 18 years of age in Netherlands. Scored 11 at Derby. 8, 9 and 13 goals in his last 3 seasons here. Those are fantastic numbers for a midfielder.

Also agree he'll improve with competent players around him, he was putting up those kind of numbers in previous season with some proper average players around him, not had players close to the level Mudryk and Felix operate at.

There are numbers and then there are numbers. His numbers were inflated against poor opposition last season. Now that's not to say I'm not a fan of the boy. He's a great option to have, as is Gallagher, but still far from the level needed to start in any midfield or forward position.

You make a good point though in that he's never played with high caliber progressive players. I don't think the players around him were average, just not the profile to help take his game to another level. Let's see what he can do from now until the end of the season. 

Don't think anyone wants to get rid of Mount completely (despite the astronomical amount of humorous defense arguments). 

Damien Duff role suits him imo. Off the bench option with a lot of versatility, so hopefully common ground is met with contract renewal. 

Edited January 23, 20233 yr by Sconnie Blue

Pretty sure we will offer him a good deal, only reason he'd move is his role vastly reduced, which I don't see it happens soon. Tie him up to a long contract now, before his agent give him other ideas.

4 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Don't think anyone wants to get rid of Mount completely (despite the astronomical amount of humorous defense arguments). 

Damien Duff role suits him imo. Off the bench option with a lot of versatility, so hopefully common ground is met with contract renewal. 

Sure, if we can get better player it is reasonable to play Mount more off the bench. 

Now who is better and more importantly available. 

7 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Agreed its dried up this year but didn't he lead Chelsea in goals and assists last season? 

14 goals at 18 years of age in Netherlands. Scored 11 at Derby. 8, 9 and 13 goals in his last 3 seasons here. Those are fantastic numbers for a midfielder.

Also agree he'll improve with competent players around him, he was putting up those kind of numbers in previous season with some proper average players around him, not had players close to the level Mudryk and Felix operate at.

Let`s just be honest. He played as a forward most of the time. 

5 hours ago, reparto corse said:

Let`s just be honest. He played as a forward most of the time. 

No he didnt.

5 hours ago, reparto corse said:

Let`s just be honest. He played as a forward most of the time. 

He plays either as an 8 or a one of the two 10's. 

33 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

He plays either as an 8 or a one of the two 10's. 

As an 8? Most of the games under Tuchel were 5-2-3 and Mount was one of the 3 forwards. We didn`t even play with 8s. Neither have we employed a classical number 10 in god know how many years.

40 minutes ago, dkw said:

No he didnt.

------------------Mendy---------------

-----Christensen-Silva-Rüdiger-------

James-------------------------Chilwell

-----------Kante----Kovacic-----------

----Mount----Havertz--Werner-------

This was basically our standard formation barring injuries during Tuchel. So yeah, Mount was played as a forward for most of the games.

Then again maybe my brain is not working and I somehow can`t remember. He definitely didn`t play as a defensive midfielder, that`s for sure.

11 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Don't think anyone wants to get rid of Mount completely (despite the astronomical amount of humorous defense arguments). 

Damien Duff role suits him imo. Off the bench option with a lot of versatility, so hopefully common ground is met with contract renewal. 

 

On 21/01/2023 at 15:16, Mário César said:

65M pounds and he can go

 

On 14/01/2023 at 02:05, HonoreMeiBalsac said:

You should watch him play. Not good enough.

Only reason his name isn't mentioned in the clearout of the squad is because he's an academy product and people get caught up in their emotions and feelings like an old woman knitting socks by the fireplace with an apple cider. 

 

On 09/01/2023 at 11:02, bisright1 said:

Well if he's this average for the remainder of his contract then I don't think a lot of people will really care. 

There were several posts from yourself that hinted at the idea of selling him too.

19 minutes ago, reparto corse said:

As an 8? Most of the games under Tuchel were 5-2-3 and Mount was one of the 3 forwards. We didn`t even play with 8s. Neither have we employed a classical number 10 in god know how many years.

A standard formation is much more fluid than what is written on paper. When Mount lined up as the 'attacker' he'd be the one dropping deep to collect the ball and progress it with Havertz and Lukaku or Havertz and Pulisic or whoever the other options were staying higher. 

Sure sky sports didn't list him as a 10 or an 8 on their line up an hour before kick off but that's how he operated. Very rarely in the box.

1 minute ago, RIP Mourinho said:

A standard formation is much more fluid than what is written on paper. When Mount lined up as the 'attacker' he'd be the one dropping deep to collect the ball and progress it with Havertz and Lukaku or Havertz and Pulisic or whoever the other options were staying higher. 

Sure sky sports didn't list him as a 10 or an 8 on their line up an hour before kick off but that's how he operated. Very rarely in the box.

The pictures you posted show clearly that he played more like a foward than a midfielder.

 

 

28 minutes ago, reparto corse said:

The pictures you posted show clearly that he played more like a foward than a midfielder.

 

 

Forwards aren't dropping that deep. As previously mentioned, he was used as a link from midfield to attack, not as an attacker. Operated as an 8 or 10. 

2 hours ago, reparto corse said:

------------------Mendy---------------

-----Christensen-Silva-Rüdiger-------

James-------------------------Chilwell

-----------Kante----Kovacic-----------

----Mount----Havertz--Werner-------

This was basically our standard formation barring injuries during Tuchel. So yeah, Mount was played as a forward for most of the games.

Then again maybe my brain is not working and I somehow can`t remember. He definitely didn`t play as a defensive midfielder, that`s for sure.

He basically played as a link between midfield and attack, in between the lines more than an out an dout attacker. 

2 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

 

 

 

There were several posts from yourself that hinted at the idea of selling him too.

My view isn't controversial at all. 

If Mount is as average as he's been for the next 18 months then it's not going to be controversial that he leaves.

 

Edited January 24, 20233 yr by bisright1

16 hours ago, ozboy said:

Well I'm not a true chelsea supporter because for me mount is just another player and I don't attend many (3 in total) chelsea games. For me Mount hasn't come on this season, lost his place in the England team and may lose it in the Chelsea team if his assists and goals and key passes don't go up. He isn't in the team for what he does in defence thats for sure.

If I compare hime with say Gudjhonsen his goal output is less. I don't have the assist data. Kalou scored more goals every season

So for my non true supporter opinion he needs to have more end product if chelsea are going to compete for titles and he is going to be part of the team. Maybe if the rest of the team becomes more dominant then his contribution will grow. 

And I am sure he is a really nice guy and works really hard and is very talented and is home grown.  

I am not saying that you are wrong, but a fairer comparison would posisbly be Oscar or Willian, being midfielders, rather than attackers like Eidur and Kalou-less. Can't believe I used to call him Kalou-less actually. He'd be prolific against this lot currently.

56 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

My view isn't controversial at all. 

If Mount is as average as he's been for the next 18 months then it's not going to be controversial that he leaves.

 

Yeah I was on the fence about using yours in the reply I'll be honest

On 22/01/2023 at 14:14, Sconnie Blue said:

Could honestly play a drinking game for the amount of times you see fans cling on to the Champions League final assist. 

Found your burner account.

Still people think our fans don't go over the top on the Mount hate lmao

30 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Yeah I was on the fence about using yours in the reply I'll be honest

Step him down for 2 games and bring him back for Dortmund. I'd be shocked if he's not then firing on all cylinders. 

I'd love to see him in a free role behind a three of havertz Felix Mudryk. 

12 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Step him down for 2 games and bring him back for Dortmund. I'd be shocked if he's not then firing on all cylinders. 

I'd love to see him in a free role behind a three of havertz Felix Mudryk. 

Completely agree about taking him out the lime light for a bit. 

Think he'll look better when he has better players around him to take the pressure off his shoulders and actually has decent players to get involved with. Just hope we can get a CM now to get the ball up the pitch quicker.