7 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

We could also sack him before the Champions League tie. Why are we just throwing our Champions League campaign away? We chose to sack AVB once we were basically out, yet we went on to win it. Honestly, even with the kit-man as an interim, we'd stand a better chance of getting through than we do with Potter.

I agree. But I'm saying that if they don't do it before, there's little point doing it after. 

Just now, strider6004 said:

Relegation becomes real prospect the longer we go without a win which is why I am so disappointed he did not play our strongest team today.

That's because Potter thinks that was our strongest team. 

I wonder if during the crisis meeting, Potter just sat and played the Arsenal all or nothing documentary to the board

Just now, bisright1 said:

I agree. But I'm saying that if they don't do it before, there's little point doing it after. 

That's because Potter thinks that was our strongest team. 

Well he has sad before about resting players just wonder if that was the case today.

What's the chances he gets sacked on Monday? Given his press conference I'm pretty sure he's gone, but it's hard to tell how deep Boehly's love for him runs

Out of his depth. Get rid of him and Scottish bowling ball sidekick before we’re sucked into mediocrity for the rest of eternity.

37 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Without those 10, we would be toe to toe with Everton and Bournemouth so we are in fact playing as a relegation team. 

Of course. Our form is relegation battlers form. 

Watched his press conference after the match and had to switch it off because everytime he talks it gets worse limp flaccid and inept he’s not a Chelsea level manager however much the media or press wants him to be.

He was hyped because of his Brighton side but they look a far better team since he’s left.

Just utterly hopeless and it will get toxic at the bridge eventually!!

I feel like with Potter, there is the basics of a good manager there. Decent, hard working, friendly etc.

Unfortunately he really lacks that killer instinct and edge. Most elite managers are wired differently to normal. Potter unfortunately comes across as a normal guy. 

51 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Tuchel is the definition of proper Chels. The guy stuck with us through thick and thin, and gave the club some of the best nights in our history. If Todd Boehly had any sense he'd beg for Tuchel to come back

Put aside everything the man won with us, the way he stuck up for us in harsh times says a lot about him and to sack a man like that simply because he didn't say yes boss shows Boehly to be an egotistic ungrateful fellow. 

The one thing we know the British or English media love is a proper Chelsea witchunt and we saw it press conference after press conference. He took a battering all the time but fought our corner. Held his own and I'm not even going to go into his personal life because we don't need to bring emotion or pity into it. He got given a remit and was delivering. 

I get it wasn't his club when TT did all that but he deserved more than that. I'm not even sure if it is true but I'm sure I read somewhere that when TT got sacked he begged Boehly to give him a chance to come round but he was refused the opportunity and shown the door. What more did Boehly want. 

Just wanted to prove a point and get rid of everyone connected to Roman. He is within his right to as the club owner but what a monumental cluster f**k to go into a recruitment without any standards of what a Chelsea manager should be expected to bring to the table. 

9 minutes ago, abister1 said:

but I'm sure I read somewhere that when TT got sacked he begged Boehly to give him a chance to come round but he was refused the opportunity and shown the door. What more did Boehly want. 

If that's true, then f*ck Todd Boehly. Absolute clown

1 hour ago, JJ8 said:

He doesn't mean that Chelsea fans want loses.

Maybe you guys in UK are so blind that you can't see the reality.

And the reality is that since 2013 we aren't stable at all.  We win some trophy and think we're good, but we're not. We're just messing things up.  We just have some upswing and a crash happens. Lucky title with Jose then crash, Lucky title with Conte then crash, lucky CL with Tuchel then crash.

Since 2017 we aren't even close for a title. Why? Middle skilled pleayers, controversial coaches, messed management on all levels.

Then tell me why we should have to be in Europe now? To make another illusion that we are good? No, thanks.

Here what i wrote in the other topic. And one more thing: "What is the difference between us now and when Man UTD spent bunch of millions for nothing?"

 

 

Oh i get it now, i'm sorry. Being from the UK i'm too thick or blind to be able to read the message behind the message.

When a poster types "Can't wait for Dortmund to annihilate us at Stamford Bridge so this cluless prick can be sacked and sent back to Brighton or Bournemouth or wherever the f**k he came from." it doesn't mean that Chelsea fans want losses. He is obviously being ironic cos he isn't really stating that he can't wait for Dortmund to annihilate us, even though it is exactlt what he typed word for word.

Which is basically what i said anyway because no Chelsea fan would want this.

My bad, apologies, its obviosuly my being English that makes me incapable of comprehending.

New round of internal talks in the next hours and the next week. Feelings can be different but intention is the same - Stick with Potter. 

- Romano

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

New round of internal talks in the next hours and the next week. Feelings can be different but intention is the same - Stick with Potter. 

- Romano

Who is leaking this to Romano ? Or is he just guessing ?

20 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

If that's true, then f*ck Todd Boehly. Absolute clown

Make of them what you will but Google brought these up. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/thomas-tuchel-totally-shocked-brutal-27930157.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thetransferroom.com/.amp/chelsea/thomas-tuchel-pleaded-with-todd-boehly-to-be-given-a-second-chance-at-chelsea

https://www.caughtoffside.com/2022/09/07/chelsea-transfer-news-tuchel-pleaded-for-second-chance/

https://sportsbrief.com/football/chelsea/23469-thomas-tuchel-chelseas-boss-fallout-todd-boehly-how-begged-sacked/

 

And a quote from Souness at the time;

They got rid of the wrong man. I would have kept him.

“I don’t believe the stories coming out of Chelsea are anywhere near the full picture. I think the PR at Chelsea have done a number on Tuchel to paint the new owners in a good light.

'According to The Sun, Tuchel turned up to Chelsea's Cobham training ground this Wednesday to give his players a dressing down following the Champions League display.

But there was no one to greet him when he arrived and he was instead ordered to attend a conference call with the Chelsea hierarchy.

The call lasted 10 minutes in which Tuchel pleaded not to be sacked and to be given a second chance to turn things around.'

 

A pinch of salt coming from the Sun but if that's true. Boehly's an utter idiot. The way Boehly treated Tuchel compared to how he's treating Potter shows how far being a yes man can get you in business, compared to actually being competent.

3 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

'According to The Sun, Tuchel turned up to Chelsea's Cobham training ground this Wednesday to give his players a dressing down following the Champions League display.

But there was no one to greet him when he arrived and he was instead ordered to attend a conference call with the Chelsea hierarchy.

The call lasted 10 minutes in which Tuchel pleaded not to be sacked and to be given a second chance to turn things around.'

 

A pinch of salt coming from the Sun but if that's true. Boehly's an utter idiot. The way Boehly treated Tuchel compared to how he's treating Potter shows how far being a yes man can get you in business, compared to actually being competent.

Simon Jordan defend Bohley by saying that he would have also sacked Tuchel given his behaviour behind the scenes. Jason Cundy also said similar stuff and seemed to have inside knowledge. So I think as much as we don’t like the decision, it was probably right. 

3 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

'According to The Sun, Tuchel turned up to Chelsea's Cobham training ground this Wednesday to give his players a dressing down following the Champions League display.

But there was no one to greet him when he arrived and he was instead ordered to attend a conference call with the Chelsea hierarchy.

The call lasted 10 minutes in which Tuchel pleaded not to be sacked and to be given a second chance to turn things around.'

 

A pinch of salt coming from the Sun but if that's true. Boehly's an utter idiot. The way Boehly treated Tuchel compared to how he's treating Potter shows how far being a yes man can get you in business, compared to actually being competent.

Unfortunately this is not unusual when you have new owners. It is like when a new CEO takes over at a company. They almost always want to bring in their own people. But after making that change I am sure they are also reluctant to get rid of the very person they brought in to replace Tuchel, before the season is over.

4 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

'According to The Sun, Tuchel turned up to Chelsea's Cobham training ground this Wednesday to give his players a dressing down following the Champions League display.

But there was no one to greet him when he arrived and he was instead ordered to attend a conference call with the Chelsea hierarchy.

The call lasted 10 minutes in which Tuchel pleaded not to be sacked and to be given a second chance to turn things around.'

 

A pinch of salt coming from the Sun but if that's true. Boehly's an utter idiot. The way Boehly treated Tuchel compared to how he's treating Potter shows how far being a yes man can get you in business, compared to actually being competent.

I think others, namely some of the players, are being treated badly too. The ownership has to shoulder some of the responsibility for what’s happened to Mount, for example. I’m not saying Mount isn’t blameless - tbh I have no clue - but owners have to do better. It’s not a happy place. And its their place. 

2 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Simon Jordan defend Bohley by saying that he would have also sacked Tuchel given his behaviour behind the scenes. Jason Cundy also said similar stuff and seemed to have inside knowledge. So I think as much as we don’t like the decision, it was probably right. 

We've never really heard Tuchel's side of this story.

4 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Simon Jordan defend Bohley by saying that he would have also sacked Tuchel given his behaviour behind the scenes. Jason Cundy also said similar stuff and seemed to have inside knowledge. So I think as much as we don’t like the decision, it was probably right. 

Simon Jordan is always going to defend the owners, being a former club owner himself, I'm surprised people value his opinions so much. He unironically said Tyson Fury would beat Joshua and Usyk on the same night 😂. It just feels like the current PR machine from journalists still defending Potter, having 'inside knowledge' that they conveniently don't reveal

3 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Simon Jordan defend Bohley by saying that he would have also sacked Tuchel given his behaviour behind the scenes. Jason Cundy also said similar stuff and seemed to have inside knowledge. So I think as much as we don’t like the decision, it was probably right. 

Because they said ir? “It was probably right” rests on the twin assumption that both Boehly and Simon Jordan are relaying this info accurately and in good faith. Why should we take what either party has said at face value, particularly Boehly the (only) source, particularly when you consider it’s very much in his interest to leak this? Why would one give his version of events the benefit of the doubt over TT’s?

12 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

'According to The Sun, Tuchel turned up to Chelsea's Cobham training ground this Wednesday to give his players a dressing down following the Champions League display.

But there was no one to greet him when he arrived and he was instead ordered to attend a conference call with the Chelsea hierarchy.

The call lasted 10 minutes in which Tuchel pleaded not to be sacked and to be given a second chance to turn things around.'

 

A pinch of salt coming from the Sun but if that's true. Boehly's an utter idiot. The way Boehly treated Tuchel compared to how he's treating Potter shows how far being a yes man can get you in business, compared to actually being competent.

If I'm honest as gutted as I was I think looking back it was the right call, for him as much as any other reason.

I was travelling in obscure places at the time so didn't have time to watch anything but highlights (was barely posting here either as my posting history will attest too) but for some reason the other day I looked at his post match interviews after Zagreb for the first time and he looked on the brink of a mental breakdown.

I don't hold any grudges the way I do Conte as i genuinely believe he was trying hard still but I think the divorce, the sanctions and having to play director in the summer broke him and brought back the "volatile Tuchel".

2 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Simon Jordan is always going to defend the owners, being a former club owner himself, I'm surprised people value his opinions so much. He unironically said Tyson Fury would beat Joshua and Usyk on the same night 😂. It just feels like the current PR machine from journalists still defending Potter, having 'inside knowledge' that they conveniently don't reveal

😂 The guy’s a complete tool. Wouldn’t trust a word that came out of his mouth. Wouldn’t surprise me if he received a favour for relaying it. 

Just now, Argo said:

If I'm honest as gutted as I was I think looking back it was the right call, for him as much as any other reason.

I was travelling in obscure places at the time so didn't have time to watch anything but highlights (was barely posting here either as my posting history will attest too) but for some reason the other day I looked at his post match interviews after Zagreb for the first time and he looked on the brink of a mental breakdown.

I don't hold any grudges the way I do Conte as i genuinely believe he was trying hard still but I think the divorce, the sanctions and having to play director in the summer broke him and brought back the "volatile Tuchel".

Guardiola was on the verge of tears in his interviews after his first few months at City, they kept faith in him and look what he did. It was a rough patch, especially with the turmoil the club was in. But if we were ever going to have a 'process' , that was the time to give Tuchel the faith and back him through thick and thin