September 17, 20232 yr 42 minutes ago, Gol15 said: I think that's not even a possibility for him right now, he has a lot to prove here. Exactly this, he's looked good at times but has by no means justified his price tag. He's been very average at times. Where he is playing right now is now suiting him in the slightest. Bizarre from Poch.
September 17, 20232 yr 27 minutes ago, Dr Gonzo said: Exactly this, he's looked good at times but has by no means justified his price tag. He's been very average at times. Where he is playing right now is now suiting him in the slightest. Bizarre from Poch. ENZO FERNANDEZ - 5 There were long spells of the game when you would hardly have known the £106million Argentinian was there. Did not get a grip on this match at all. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/23991890/chelsea-player-ratings-bournemouth/
September 17, 20232 yr I think he played well, the problem is that he was only involved in the game for 20min or so, he looked very tired from the very beginning today. I don't have any complaints about him being placed in a more offensive position, but not on the left side like Poch made him play today, it was a completely ridiculous decision. Edited September 17, 20232 yr by Upb78
September 17, 20232 yr If he is to be our most impotortant player, why not play him in his best position. Poch is messing this one up and will destroy his confidence. The guy looks a different league for Argentina.
September 17, 20232 yr Not keen on him playing so high up, he doesn’t get to affect the game as much. Shame as he now has a DM to free him up. As for today, he looked short on energy, not surprising really having played at altitude followed by a long journey.
September 17, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, charierre said: Not keen on him playing so high up, he doesn’t get to affect the game as much. Shame as he now has a DM to free him up. As for today, he looked short on energy, not surprising really having played at altitude followed by a long journey. Yeah, i think many players came back very tired from the WC qualifiers, specially the ones who played both games, like Enzo and Caicedo.
September 17, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Scott Harris said: Probably similar to Alexander-Arnold. But still, I would rather him be very good attacking from left back and poor at defending than looking totally lost as a winger or attacking midfielder. So basically, Ian Alonso?
September 17, 20232 yr Enzo and Moses are no way near 100m players . Just imagine Jude Bellingham in this team A proper 100m player who can control a game and the pace it's played at. We are kidding ourselves to think Enzo or any of our other overpaid for players can reach this level. What a wast of 1 billion
September 17, 20232 yr He's not going to get the amount of goals & assists one expects from a 100M player, same as Caicedo. The MF offered most attacking threat was Gallagher, one the club and lots of fans were happy to offload during the transfer window. Basically, we need another 100M MF who could go forward and score a few goals🫢
September 17, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said: He was poor In retrospect only he should not have played, clearly the travel and games took too much out of him. Of course if Poch rested him and we drew 0-0 he would be getting even more grief.
September 17, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Blue72 said: Enzo and Moses are no way near 100m players . Just imagine Jude Bellingham in this team A proper 100m player who can control a game and the pace it's played at. We are kidding ourselves to think Enzo or any of our other overpaid for players can reach this level. What a wast of 1 billion Bellingham “control a game and the pace it’s played at”? This is the first time I am ever seeing this. He is playing as a False 9 at Madrid, you take away the goals and he is a shell of a player. Valverde has been the one controlling games from the middle of the park, and effectively replaced Modric. Edited September 17, 20232 yr by ducavis
September 18, 20232 yr Usually we'd have the game on Saturday after the International break, for once we had an extra day off. Imagine we played the game at Saturday lunch time, probably couldn't even field 11 fit players. I don't think we could use travel, international games for an excuse for Enzo. Ideally, play him as where he's most suited, but could see the point of Poch pushing him higher up, as we really struggle for options there. There's no way we could play Caicedo or Levia ( when he's fit) higher up.
September 18, 20232 yr Just my opinion but I would not be surprised if Enzo and his agent look for moves for next season. I don't believe such a player will accept 2 seasons without CL football. I know some will say he has a long deal, so he cannot do anything. Lukaku did to us, Caicedo did to Brighton. If he so decided to Enzo could absolutely force his way out, so can any player. Edited September 18, 20232 yr by axman2526
September 18, 20232 yr 9 hours ago, Blue72 said: Enzo and Moses are no way near 100m players . Just imagine Jude Bellingham in this team A proper 100m player who can control a game and the pace it's played at. We are kidding ourselves to think Enzo or any of our other overpaid for players can reach this level. What a wast of 1 billion Madness. How dare compare Enzo to a tap-in merchant playing in a weaker league. Also Moses cost 7m and left the club a while ago...
September 18, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, axman2526 said: Just my opinion but I would not be surprised if Enzo and his agent look for moves for next season. I don't believe such a player will accept 2 seasons without CL football. I know some will say he has a long deal, so he cannot do anything. Lukaku did to us, Caicedo did to Brighton. If he so decided to Enzo could absolutely force his way out, so can any player. I hope Enzo is the type of character who takes this tough time as something of a challenge. Great players do. They look at themselves. Sheep just follow. We have sheep in the team as well but I am sure Enzo is not one. I have a good feeling about him and Pochettino. People who set standards and hold people up to those standards. Enzo as a player and Poch as the coach.
September 18, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, Blue72 said: Enzo and Moses are no way near 100m players . Just imagine Jude Bellingham in this team A proper 100m player who can control a game and the pace it's played at. We are kidding ourselves to think Enzo or any of our other overpaid for players can reach this level. What a wast of 1 billion You are both right and wrong. Not worth 100m, but Enzo is a fantastic player and has probably been our best player since joining. Incredible talent. If he joined City for the same amount I'd wager he'd be talked about as being well worth the money already. He's being dragged down by terrible team performances here, actually like everyone is. Almost like a collection of good players on papers does not automatically become a good team.
September 18, 20232 yr 15 hours ago, Dr Gonzo said: Exactly this, he's looked good at times but has by no means justified his price tag. He's been very average at times. Where he is playing right now is now suiting him in the slightest. Bizarre from Poch. It's funny how a few people were super convinced that Enzo should be playing like De Bruyne and argued hard how he would be dictating everything further up the pitch... He is really worth the money if you ask me but so far he hasn't been as impactful as he should have been, too many tasks too little specifics and he suddenly looks like an average player.
September 18, 20232 yr 11 hours ago, Blue72 said: Enzo and Moses are no way near 100m players . Just imagine Jude Bellingham in this team A proper 100m player who can control a game and the pace it's played at. We are kidding ourselves to think Enzo or any of our other overpaid for players can reach this level. What a wast of 1 billion Bellingham wouldn't help us anymore than Enzo is. Counter point, imagine Enzo in that Madrid team. Perfect heir to Kroos.
September 18, 20232 yr 41 minutes ago, Gol15 said: It's funny how a few people were super convinced that Enzo should be playing like De Bruyne and argued hard how he would be dictating everything further up the pitch... He is really worth the money if you ask me but so far he hasn't been as impactful as he should have been, too many tasks too little specifics and he suddenly looks like an average player. no one said he should be playing like De Bruyne, just that he should be having the same impact. Everyone on this forum agreed that he's best in a pivot next to a defensive minded player. What are you even rambling on about.
September 18, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Gol15 said: It's funny how a few people were super convinced that Enzo should be playing like De Bruyne and argued hard how he would be dictating everything further up the pitch... He is really worth the money if you ask me but so far he hasn't been as impactful as he should have been, too many tasks too little specifics and he suddenly looks like an average player. He was definitely not ever worth that money. He was bought for like €18m a season before by Benfica. Even if he had scored 10 goals and assisted 10 goals, he should never have been worth even close to that. Half that maybe, but of course we over paid for him. He had played 26 matches in total for Benfica and scored 3 goals and got 5 assists. He was bought by Benfica off the back of 20 matches, 8 goals and 6 assists. Edited September 18, 20232 yr by enigma
September 18, 20232 yr Author Barcelona won the league with Alonso at CB didn't they? Not sure La Liga is a good indicator of quality right now. Bellingham was always going to run riot in Spain. Edited September 18, 20232 yr by Sconnie Blue
September 18, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said: Bellingham wouldn't help us anymore than Enzo is. Counter point, imagine Enzo in that Madrid team. Perfect heir to Kroos. Nonsense. If we offered a straight swap Enzo for Bellingham they would laugh at us. Bellingham actually scores goals which is what we desperately need. That being said, it's the same discussion every year since Sarriball I think. People talk about the midfield while it's our attackers letting us down time and time again. Our problem is NOT our midfield.
September 18, 20232 yr 51 minutes ago, Vagabond said: Nonsense. If we offered a straight swap Enzo for Bellingham they would laugh at us. Bellingham actually scores goals which is what we desperately need. That being said, it's the same discussion every year since Sarriball I think. People talk about the midfield while it's our attackers letting us down time and time again. Our problem is NOT our midfield. Much the same as if Madrid offered us Bellingham in exchange for Enzo we'd turn it down. Bellingham has basically been playing as a CF for Madrid, of course he's going to be scoring goals. Enzo is one of the most complete midfielders in the game, wouldn't be surprised to see Madrid offer us £100m if we finish 12th again.
September 18, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said: Much the same as if Madrid offered us Bellingham in exchange for Enzo we'd turn it down. Bellingham has basically been playing as a CF for Madrid, of course he's going to be scoring goals. Enzo is one of the most complete midfielders in the game, wouldn't be surprised to see Madrid offer us £100m if we finish 12th again. Watched two Madrid games this season and he's more of a false 9 I'd say. Wait, you're serious? You'd laugh at Madrid if they offered us Bellingham for Enzo? Wow. I know you love Enzo and will stay stubborn for a while, but I believe one of these days you'll come around and realize that he isn't all that. We got rinsed and Madrid would maybe offer us half of what we paid. If we're lucky. Ok, maybe not half. Let's say 70M, but Euros of course. Edited September 18, 20232 yr by Vagabond
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