Just now, Scott Harris said:

Similar to Hazard, he will do it on his own. He's that type of player. When the others are looking hopeless, they do it all themselves.

I think Hazard was an exception, but I hope you are right! If anything, in the last few seasons, this team has sucked the form out of individual players!

44 minutes ago, Paulus said:

Positive post ....We have 2 of our 3 strikers injured, Sanchez played well, he had to though. Palmer looks good on the ball, and a starter for me. Players coming back from injury in the next few weeks. 
Clutching at straws I know, but I'm not going let my beloved club be dragged through the mud every week. If you dont want to watch your team then you shouldnt support them. If all supporters felt like that then two thirds of grounds would be empty every week. 

Our time will come again, just be patient .

What strikers are they? How many goals have they scored? Madueke has potential. That's all you can say. We know nothing about Nkunku apart from scoring a reasonable amount of goals in the lesser Bundesliga. Just like Werner and Havertz.

36 minutes ago, enigma said:

There were issues creeping in under Roman too. This isn't solely a new owner issue. Roman should have made us a genuine force when Mourinho won the title 10 years ago when he came back to the club, but never did. I mean I've said it before a lot, but Roman is also a big part to play in where we are now. The last decade under Roman was poor with some very crap signings that never took us to the next level. 

It really wasn't, only Man City won more silverware than us in the last 15 years. You can't blame Roman when the new owners literally got rid of everything and anything they could in order to implement their own project and we finished below top 10 anyway, that alone shows that a lot of things worked under Roman, that don't work anymore.

Just now, Modueke said:

I think Hazard was an exception, but I hope you are right! If anything, in the last few seasons, this team has sucked the form out of individual players!

From what I have seen, he is that type of player. Not as good as Hazard obviously, but he's the type of player that is capable of pulling something off when it's looking hopeless.

3 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

f**king hell mate, what Chelsea player do you rate exactly? 

In the current squad?

About 3 of them which is precisely why we are were are.

3 minutes ago, Frankfurter said:

What strikers are they? How many goals have they scored? Madueke has potential. That's all you can say. We know nothing about Nkunku apart from scoring a reasonable amount of goals in the lesser Bundesliga. Just like Werner and Havertz.

Nkunku is very different than those two players. Werner and Havertz are not players that thrive of their own individual brilliance, everything around them has to work for them to click, Nkunku's not like that, he makes things happen by himself.

Edited September 17, 20232 yr by Scott Harris

Just now, Whats_The_Mata? said:

In the current squad?

About 3 of them which is precisely why we are were are.

We've signed a sh*tload of youngsters who we haven't seen a great deal of yet as they are still very early in their careers. It's unlikely every single one of them is sh*t with no potential like you claim they are. 

1 minute ago, Victor90 said:

We've signed a sh*tload of youngsters who we haven't seen a great deal of yet as they are still very early in their careers. It's unlikely every single one of them is sh*t with no potential like you claim they are. 

It's actually much more likely they're all sh*t with no potential than that they're ever going to be good enough for to compete for 4th let alone trophies.

The chances of "promising" young players being top quality players in their primes is extremely low which is reason 101 why our moronic transfer strategy is the worst the sport has seen.

The odds aren't in our favour at all we needed a few home improvements but instead we've sold our nice house to buy lottery tickets.

Edited September 17, 20232 yr by Whats_The_Mata?

Clearly I’m not a professional footballer 😂, but a couple of things I’d love to ask these lads to do and maybe a bit of friendly fan advice.

Stop playing like you’re an elite player who is above the opposition. Falling over and complaining to the ref when you’ve lost the ball does not win free kicks or support from the travelling faithful.

Play with honesty and heart and you will endear yourselves to the support and might just get a result, there will be plenty of so called lesser opposition who will get a result there with this type of application.

From our point of view we need to understand that the next couple of seasons are likely to be tough, maybe even tougher than the last but we can’t keep on asking for a something else. 
 

We’ve made this bed, we’ve got to accept that somewhere along this path we have to stick and hold our nerve.

KTBFFH

1 hour ago, just said:

That was an awful pass from Gallagher to Jackson. Just dreadful.

Cole Palmer's to Sterling was just as bad. Our attacking play is as bad as I've ever seen from any Chelsea side.

3 minutes ago, Whats_The_Mata? said:

It's actually much more likely they're all sh*t with no potential than that they're ever going to be good enough for to compete for 4th let alone trophies.

The chances of "promising" young players being top quality players in their primes is extremely low which is reason 101 why our moronic transfer strategy is the worst the sport has seen.

I would switch the telly off then mate, there's bob hope for this season if you think that's the case. 

I'm not going to write off every young player we have in the team, there are some players I don't rate but I'm willing to give them a chance to see how it plays out. 

Edited September 17, 20232 yr by Victor90

4 minutes ago, Whats_The_Mata? said:

I hope not because he wasn't very good before.

I don't understand why some people rate Broja so highly he wasn't very good on loan at Southampton and wasn't very good here pre injury.

I'd have been happy if we brought in another striker this summer, I'm not sure why there's much hope Broja will be the answer when he comes back he's not shown much in his career so far to warrant the faith.

Again, another very young player. He's 6'3", quick, physically strong and has a great work ethic. Looked a very decent prospect to me and obviously the club must see real potential in him to turn down West Ham who were interested in him last summer and again this summer.

3 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

I would switch the telly off then mate, there's bob hope for this season if you think that's the case. 

I'm not going to write off every young player we have in the team, there are some players I don't rate but I'm willing to give them a chance to see how it plays out. 

Would you stop supporting Chelsea if we were relegated?

Do you think traditional midtable club supporters stop going to games or watching because they don't think they'll win the league?

I love the club, I've had a season ticket most of my adult life it's a huge part of who I am and how I spend my time and I'll be watching every game this season but that doesn't mean I don't think we're completely on the wrong course and the season is a write off in terms of us being competitive.

I backed us to finish 10th - 12th before a ball was kicked,  might be a place or two lower now but us having such a bad squad doesn't change my support for the team.

Does make me feel very sad we have such a bad owner who's took us down this path but I can't influence that.

Edited September 17, 20232 yr by Whats_The_Mata?

1 minute ago, Whats_The_Mata? said:

Would you stop supporting Chelsea if we were relegated?

Do you think traditional midtable club supporters stop going to games or watching because they don't think they'll win the league?

I love the club, I've had a season ticket most of my adult life it's a huge part of who I am and how I spend my time and I'll be watching every game this season but that doesn't mean I don't think we're completely on the wrong course and the season is a write off in terms of us being competitive.

I backed us to finish 10th - 12th before a ball was kicked,  might be a place or two lower now but us having such a bad squad doesn't change my support for the team.

Does make me feel very sad we have such a bad owner who's took us down this path but I can't influence that.

Of course not, but that's a completely negative way of looking at it if you're already writing off every young player isn't it? This is all we've got right now, not every single of them is going to be sh*t.

I don't completely disagree with what you're saying as I've also lowered my expectations for anything this season but I do believe there is potential there and I do believe we can do a lot better than we currently are. 

Q. What do you get if you cross some loser Argy sh*tc**t from Spurs with a yank c**t dodgeball owner? 

 

A. Chelsea FC in the relegation zone.

And who wanted Poch?   bloody useless  never won anything  and now  all those that wanted him are seeing why he does not know how to get a team to gel    lmfho his back room staff are friends and family  

Edited September 17, 20232 yr by dellaw

The big mistake was not investing heavily in a couple of experienced forwards over the Summer. Just what was going on in the thought process of the Board when Nkunku got injured and we decided it was okay to go into the new season with an untried Jackson and an injured Broja as our only forward options? Was there no one to put their hand up and say this was potentially suicidal? 

59 minutes ago, El regreso said:

Who should we have signed or kept?

This goes back to last season but forgetting that. The state we are in at the moment, we saved the 1 billion spent and only used a fraction, accepting that we are a mid table club to start from scratch but with massive investment behind us. We are where a team that has spent no money should be. That's what is the heartbreaking thing. We've blown a massive spend budget and have nothing to show. So where do you go from here?

 

36 minutes ago, just said:

I really feel for Jackson. He can be a real player for us as we saw in pre-season and the first couple of league matches. BUT he isn't Drogba. He's 22 and playing in a new league. It isn't fair to expect him to do it on his own IMO. He needs a natural strike partner to share the load. And with Nkunku out for a long time and no set date for Broja to return, (and when he does, will he even be the same player?), Jackson is having to do it all and play every minute of every game. It is asking way too much of him much too soon.

 

Jackson is a Championship striker at best.

1 hour ago, ducavis said:

Wasn’t it effectively a Brighton 2nd team that mauled Man Utd yesterday? Sure Mitoma & Estupian played.

It’s the slow transition that is killing us. Ange hasn’t done anything dramatic to transform Spurs, it’s just get it up the pitch as quickly as possible. With us  we keep passing it around aimlessly. You bet we are top of the possession stats.

Estupinan didn't play. On paper, Brighton were seriously under strength but when you have the best manager in the PL (Guardiola excepted), these are the performances that you get.

6 wins in the whole of 2023. That’s 10 months. Embarrassing 

Poch. Loser at Spurs, loser at PSG, loser at Chelsea. Not hard to understand.

I got slammed for saying we’ve spent nearly a Billion, without the tiniest thought, hey we don’t need a Goalscorer, like f**k we do, we didn’t need Mudryk, Caceido or Lavia, Broja is more accomplished than Jackson, a creative midfielder in th 10 role in front of Gallagher and Enzo, we should of gone balls deep on Osimhen, at least we could moan properly if it didn’t work, we looked like an energetic U21s team  trying to play with the big boys 🙈🙈🙈

 

 

 

Edited September 17, 20232 yr by Ballack & Blu

It’s a painful process but I believe it will work out just not at the moment.

13 minutes ago, Ballack & Blu said:

I got slammed for saying we’ve spent nearly a Billion, without the tiniest thought, hey we don’t need a Goalscorer, like f**k we do, we didn’t need Mudryk, Caceido or Lavia, Broja is more accomplished than Jackson, a creative midfielder in th 10 role in front of Gallagher and Enzo, we should of gone balls deep on Osimhen, at least we could moan properly if it didn’t work, we looked like an energetic U21s team  trying to play with the big boys 🙈🙈🙈

 

 

 

I don't disagree with a lot of this, and I like Broja. But realistically Broja's stock has risen the longer he hasn't been playing. I am not convinced that he will suddenly provide the goals that we are missing. I think the returns of Reece, Carney and Nkunku will help more in that regard. We definitely need an experienced striker though. Jackson has potential but is way too inexperienced to be our main striker.