Great player but like Giggs, has forever tarnished borderline killed his great legacy over multiple acts of foolishness.

1 hour ago, KonaKai Blue said:

Great player but like Giggs, has forever tarnished borderline killed his great legacy over multiple acts of foolishness.

What a stupid post, Giggs was accused of physically and mentally abusing his partner for years and cheated with his wife with his brothers wife, nothing like the stuff Terry was accused of.

1 hour ago, dkw said:

What a stupid post, Giggs was accused of physically and mentally abusing his partner for years and cheated with his wife with his brothers wife, nothing like the stuff Terry was accused of.

I'm not even gonna get into with anyone and their blue tinted glasses,  especially you. Have a good day.

Good interview. Was interesting hearing about the AVB plane fiasco. Fair play to his mum for supporting him when his dad had a strop about him signing for Chelsea. He denied being a Man United fan as a child but I’m sure he said he was in his autobiography. 

53 minutes ago, stevo said:

Good interview. Was interesting hearing about the AVB plane fiasco. Fair play to his mum for supporting him when his dad had a strop about him signing for Chelsea. He denied being a Man United fan as a child but I’m sure he said he was in his autobiography. 

I'm not aware he's written one.

Yes he has one. 

Loved the story about Dennis Wise suggesting that the captains armband should be relinquished, and passed on to JT. Very classy gesture.

51 minutes ago, Timmy Elms said:

Loved the story about Dennis Wise suggesting that the captains armband should be relinquished, and passed on to JT. Very classy gesture.

Only Chelsea fans appreciate Dennis Wise , other fans should listen to this especially Toon fans 

Really a cracking interview. Only put it on for 5 minutes but ended up watching the entire thing.

Loved hearing his comments towards peak Mourinho. Terry and Lampard really were Mourinho disciples. Efficiency and consistency. 

Also Simon Johnson taking the piss asking Terry if he considers himself a European Champion simply because he didn't play the final. DiMatteo relied heavily on Terry to unite the players during those months. Ignited the comeback against Napoli and defended like a lion against Barcelona to keep the clean sheet and prevent the away goal, while playing with a broken rib. 

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1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Loved hearing his comments towards peak Mourinho. Terry and Lampard really were Mourinho disciples. Efficiency and consistency. 

Also Simon Johnson taking the piss asking Terry if he considers himself a European Champion simply because he didn't play the final. DiMatteo relied heavily on Terry to unite the players during those months. Ignited the comeback against Napoli and defended like a lion against Barcelona to keep the clean sheet and prevent the away goal, while playing with a broken rib. 

It really is such a silly narrative.

Kante didn't play against West Brom when we secured the title so by that logic he wasn't a PL winner for us.

There is a good podcast with JT here>> -the-blueprint-tapes-with-john-terry-part-1.

 

14 minutes ago, Argo said:

It really is such a silly narrative.

Kante didn't play against West Brom when we secured the title so by that logic he wasn't a PL winner for us.

It's only because people had a raging hate boner for John Terry, if it were anyone else it wouldn't have got that kind of traction. 

2 hours ago, hawkster said:

Only Chelsea fans appreciate Dennis Wise , other fans should listen to this especially Toon fans 

I live in Leicester so have had to keep quiet about my opinions on Dennis Wise.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/aug/03/newsstory.sport1

8 hours ago, stevo said:

Was interesting hearing about the AVB plane fiasco.

That bit didn't sit well with me tbh. Blatant disrespect for the manager, and undermined him from the very start. Refused to stay on the plane unless he sat in first class, like some self-entitled d**khead.

Whatever his rationale (kids have to pay their dues and not sit in first class blah blah blah), it was a dick move in my book....

6 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

That bit didn't sit well with me tbh. Blatant disrespect for the manager, and undermined him from the very start. Refused to stay on the plane unless he sat in first class, like some self-entitled d**khead.

Whatever his rationale (kids have to pay their dues and not sit in first class blah blah blah), it was a dick move in my book....

Can see a bit of both Jim, I can see JT's point but at the same time it comes across very bratty.

Tbh I love and adore Terry and Lampard, but the way they behaved under AVB never really sat right with me. Despite AVB being a bit of a tool, they weren't the most professional under his reign. 

Just now, Victor90 said:

Can see a bit of both Jim, I can see JT's point but at the same time it comes across very bratty.

Tbh I love and adore Terry and Lampard, but the way they behaved under AVB never really sat right with me. Despite AVB being a bit of a tool, they weren't the most professional under his reign. 

I don't necessarily disagree with JTs sentiment, but as a captain and leader, there is a way to go about it - particularly knowing that there was a new manager there. And  JT stomping his feet, undermining the manager and threatening to walk off the plane unless he sat in first class, is not the actions of a true leader.

Very interesting listening to him talk about the F.A after he was cleared in court. He had an agreement with the F.A that whatever was said in the court was the final say, but they went back on that and suspended him and took the captaincy from him. Didn't even allow him to defend himself with the evidence used in the court of law. What a disgusting organisation.

He touched on the golden generation failing and that he never really understood why it didn't work out. But if you listen to his words, maybe the problem has always been the F.A rather than the players. He said how playing for England often felt like miserable experience when it should be the best of your career. The wrong coach, appointed by the F.A, made to sit in suits in hot conditions when travelling to and from games for sponsorship reasons, again, because of the F.A. Not feeling free and allowed to enjoy themselves, again, because of the F.A. Other countries players were free to express themselves and enjoy the experience, our lot were constantly put in uncomfortable positions and under constant pressure. 

I found it uncomfortable listening to his dad's reaction to choosing Chelsea over United. My mum's a United fan and my dad is a Forest fan, if I ever had the opportunity as a kid to choose from so many clubs, they would have supported me no matter what decision I made. Neither of them would have stepped in and refused to sign the papers because they would prefer me to move to the club of their choice. Maybe that helped Terry grow into the strong personality on the pitch that he was, but I don't think that is the only way to achieve that. His dad comes across terribly in my opinion. I also never knew about his connections with Arsenal and West Ham. Seems like every club knew he was going to be something special. Feels good that despite not being considered an elite club, we had that something special that could attract such a gifted footballer.

It's also finally good to hear it from Terry's mouth that he was never a United fan. I can finally tell my brothers to shut up about that now 😆

You can only assume Rio put pressure on the FA. 

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On 27/04/2024 at 15:09, nonotnowjim said:

I don't necessarily disagree with JTs sentiment, but as a captain and leader, there is a way to go about it - particularly knowing that there was a new manager there. And  JT stomping his feet, undermining the manager and threatening to walk off the plane unless he sat in first class, is not the actions of a true leader.

But in contrast, how would that look when the most successful club captain who helped build the club to where it is, is being forced to fly economy whilst the youngsters are looking at him from first class? Anyone with any sense of dignity and pride would be pissed off, and it wasn't just himself. He, Lampard, and Drogba were going to leave the plane. 

 

7 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

But in contrast, how would that look when the most successful club captain who helped build the club to where it is, is being forced to fly economy whilst the youngsters are looking at him from first class? Anyone with any sense of dignity and pride would be pissed off, and it wasn't just himself. He, Lampard, and Drogba were going to leave the plane. 

 

Pissed off - yes.

But to undermine the new manager, and risk upsetting the balance at the club you love, and getting the new manager off to such a bad start - was, in my opinion, an error of judgement.

 

Rather than causing a scene, and threatening to walk off the plane, The right thing to do would be to take it on the chin, let the young lads have their 5 mins in the sun (in first class) and have a quiet word with avb in private once they had arrived at the destination, explaining how it landed with the senior players and explaining the discontent and why he thinks it shouldn't happen.

The decision is then back with AvB - with JT as a player, falling in line with whatever that may be. 

7 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Pissed off - yes.

But to undermine the new manager, and risk upsetting the balance at the club you love, and getting the new manager off to such a bad start - was, in my opinion, an error of judgement.

 

Rather than causing a scene, and threatening to walk off the plane, The right thing to do would be to take it on the chin, let the young lads have their 5 mins in the sun (in first class) and have a quiet word with avb in private once they had arrived at the destination, explaining how it landed with the senior players and explaining the discontent and why he thinks it shouldn't happen.

The decision is then back with AvB - with JT as a player, falling in line with whatever that may be. 

I think context is important. Worth remembering this wasn't the first and only time AVB tried some brash revolutionism that ended up failing horrifically. 

I know it's back in the days, but imagine if this is happening today and people see JT and Lampard in economy, the sh1t will go viral. I don't get what AVB was trying to achieve, making everyone sits in economy may have made some sense, but just to shove the senior players in there? Sounds like a complete idiot move. JT had every right to have a go, the hierarchy in the dressing room is important. What's next, JT to clean boots for young Macfaran?😁 No wonder AVB's era didn't last long, lost the core of the team as soon as he got in.