June 3, 20251 yr 20 minutes ago, Deino said:Dribbling is one thing but having speed at the very top level just puts Madueke in a different bracket, if Madueke ever figures out how to shoot or exploit the angles better, we'd have a potential Salah on our handsThey both have qualities we wish the other had. If only they were one player.
June 3, 20251 yr 2 minutes ago, DarkMata said:Something about my aunties balls.Our best period in history came when we had wingers on both sides who were fast and can score goals.Dribblers are better in central areas of the pitch
June 3, 20251 yr 6 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:They both have qualities we wish the other had. If only they were one player.Disagree, we need fast players who can score goals more than dribblers who can score. Having both qualities in one player gives you a Willian
June 3, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, Deino said:Our best period in history came when we had wingers on both sides who were fast and can score goals.Dribblers are better in central areas of the pitchI don't disagree there, more the Madueke becoming a top player or even half that of Salah that I have a disagreement with. Think Noni has a bit of the Zaha about him, already peak world class in his head and no reason improve. He will score the odd worldie or some dribble that gets people talking but in the end spend most of his career moaning and gesturing to anyone that will listen. I honestly hope Maresca has had proper review of the players and the club is listening to the fact that the likes of Noni, Jackson, and Sanchez are simply not good enough and we need to move on and replace them.
June 3, 20251 yr I know there was nothing we could have done if Sancho refused to budge on his wages but it really riles me up that Sancho left and we still have Mudryk… He’s f*cking sh*te.
June 3, 20251 yr 2 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:we still have Mudryk… He’s f*cking sh*te.Mudryck? Poor little Mudrick who didnt mean to take performance enhancing drugs? Just goes to show kids. Taking Drugs is bad for you. Didn't help Mudricks performances at all. Yeah, he was totally sh1te before the drugs . . .but you gotta feel sorry for him right? fcuck that. The accidental junkie.
June 3, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, axman2526 said:Not surprised by this outcome.His wages are not 300k a week, they are often stated at "more than" 300k a week, with 350k often suggested.As BJ said ride out the last year, collect the 10.4 mill (over 5mill after tax) then go to somewhere else on a free.The Winston Bogarde of the Wing.
June 3, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Deino said:Dribbling is one thing but having speed at the very top level just puts Madueke in a different bracket, if Madueke ever figures out how to shoot or exploit the angles better, we'd have a potential Salah on our handsPMSL
June 3, 20251 yr Glad we didn't sign him just off a few good moments, rather let Quenda/Estevao have the game time instead
June 3, 20251 yr I don’t think he’s done enough to warrant signing. I like him but I wanted to see much more from him. What happened to early form he showed? He’s had a couple of flashes but that’s about it really.
June 3, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, JM7 said: He’s had a couple of flashes but that’s about it really.Clive Walker contributed far more in his time with us.
June 3, 20251 yr 22 minutes ago, Backbiter said:Clive Walker contributed far more in his time with us.I see what you did there in reply to the " couple of flashes" comment 😂
June 3, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:its not even like we have a lemonade pocket, we've spent an obscene amount on transfer feesIt's a valid point and one that I don't fully understand. I would have thought that this lot would have found another creative loophole. If Osimhen wants too high wages, then why not pay him an annual signing on fee for the balance that is over our wage structure. I mean presumably the money all comes out of the same pot.Maybe it needs someone to explain it to me but getting away from all the amortisation maths, as a general rule I don't see a huge difference between £105m fee and £100k pw and a £50m fee and £200k pw. If we are so rigid on our weekly wage surely we can get creative for the right player
June 3, 20251 yr https://www.redcafe.net/threads/jadon-sancho-ornstein-chelsea-transfer-falls-through-romano-not-expected-to-stay-at-united.484527/page-130the meltdown on red cafe is a thing of beauty.
June 3, 20251 yr 27 minutes ago, Term_X said:https://www.redcafe.net/threads/jadon-sancho-ornstein-chelsea-transfer-falls-through-romano-not-expected-to-stay-at-united.484527/page-130the meltdown on red cafe is a thing of beauty.I mean it vindicates the stance in sending him back, but I'm not sure we have any gloating rights considering where we are with Kepa, Chilwell, Disasi, Fofana, Sterling, Felix, Nkunku etc etc etc
June 3, 20251 yr 7 hours ago, ducavis said:What is the agenda a section of our fan base have against Noni? Granted all our wingers are crap, but he will be the last one out of the door in my opinion.My fear is the club would turn around and sign Granacho & Gittens when Semenyo and Alex Baena are the 2 LW that will raise the ceiling of our squad.It's more I think he's the sort of player that won't get any better, from a skill point of view and a mental point of view. Neto hasn't been great but I've never seen him give up mid game and play like he doesn't want to be there like we have done Noni and Sancho. Out of the wingers you mentioned I think Garnacho would be the only one I'd be pissed off if we signed and I think most of the fanbase would agree with that one.
June 3, 20251 yr 5 hours ago, dermott said:Extended it because he would have been out of contract, on a free, at the end of the loan.I know but 12 months ago id have been fine with this
June 3, 20251 yr 7 hours ago, dansubrosa said:Maybe there’s a gentleman’s agreement with Sancho.Next year when he becomes a free agent, we can give him a signing on fee and then give him 100k a week.I’m not going to lie, I feel really disappointed in Sancho, the fact he wouldn’t budge on his wages. It really feels like a waste of his career.You're first point is definitely plausible but your second point is the trap of looking at things through football goggles that we are all guilty of.He's just turned 25. They can't loan him out in his last year, so he can sit on his contract for his last year at £300k pw. He can then leave on a free and still being 26 he will have his choice of decent clubs as his stock will stillbe quite high. For his life and his career this is the most sensible move for him.Watch a number of our fans calling out Sterling and others here who will do the same thing. We are reporting about all these players leaving. We'll see how easy it is.
June 3, 20251 yr 7 hours ago, petre ispirescu said:Had a full season to make that left wing role his own, but never quite had the balls to finally start taking on defenders and dribble past them at every chance he got. He is great in tight spaces and can glue the ball to his feet, but what's the point if 9/10 passes are always backwards???Thierry Henry's analogy in the latest Overlap podcast is very good. He said he failed so many times to dribble past defenders like Carragher, but nobody remembers this, people only remember the times he dribbled past defenders and not the failed attempts because he never stopped attempting a dribble and if you never stop, you will have success and people will only remember the times you made a dribble and created a goal or a big chance, rather than the times the defender was better than you.Sancho is the opposite.The board did the right thing.I agree. If he'd stayed I would have liked to develop him in the 10, because of his good touch and close control, decent simple passes, vision to see spaces,and can operate without that lack of down the pace being exposed.H could have been the ideal foil for the right and left wingers working their way into the half space.Moot point now anyway.
February 19Feb 19 Man U are prepared to let Jadon Sancho (25) leave on a free at the end of the season. Should we make a move? WE need a winger or two.
February 19Feb 19 5 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:Man U are prepared to let Jadon Sancho (25) leave on a free at the end of the season. Should we make a move? WE need a winger or two.Trading in a winger that has nothing but speed to a winger that has no speed isn't exactly a good idea
February 19Feb 19 30 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:Man U are prepared to let Jadon Sancho (25) leave on a free at the end of the season. Should we make a move? WE need a winger or two.They will have no interest unless he takes a 70% pay cut minimum. Then at those wages and free, this lot will be like flies on......Football doesn't come into it for our visionaries
February 19Feb 19 37 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:Man U are prepared to let Jadon Sancho (25) leave on a free at the end of the season. Should we make a move? WE need a winger or two.In a word, NO. Debateable as to whether he is better or worse than Garnacho and Gittens, but even if he is better, that still doesn't make him any good!
February 19Feb 19 2 hours ago, TheCeleryKing said:Man U are prepared to let Jadon Sancho (25) leave on a free at the end of the season. Should we make a move? WE need a winger or two.Hell no! He is crap! Has 1 assist all season. Will end up in Serie A or Turkey.
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