Find it quite funny that the same people that routinely slag off Joao Felix are simultaneously staunch defenders of Jadon Sancho, who is much worse.

Yes, you UB ... LOL

Started off well but been sh*t for a while. If we can send him back we should.

9 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Find it quite funny that the same people that routinely slag off Joao Felix are simultaneously staunch defenders of Jadon Sancho, who is much worse.

Yes, you UB ... LOL

Sancho has done far more for us than Felix ever has. Neither are perfect for title challengers mind you.

14 minutes ago, Remodez said:

Sancho has done far more for us than Felix ever has. Neither are perfect for title challengers mind you.

Not even true, but sure, why not LOL

Agree on the "title challengers" comment

Edited March 17, 20251 yr by Sexyfootball

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

Find it quite funny that the same people that routinely slag off Joao Felix are simultaneously staunch defenders of Jadon Sancho, who is much worse.

Yes, you UB ... LOL

Sancho £20m and better than Mudryk.

Felix £55m to play back up to Palmer and Nkunku.

Context is important here.

Yeah leaning towards taking the fine.

20 hours ago, Gordon Bennett said:

Started off well but been sh*t for a while. If we can send him back we should.

Heard it said that the penalty for not signing him permanently is between 5mill and 10mill. So possible if BlueCo don't believe they can make money on him.

22 hours ago, Gordon Bennett said:

Started off well but been sh*t for a while. If we can send him back we should.

Most of the squad have been sh*t during the same period. And he's being misused as a touchline winger. For the price, keep him.

If Maresca stays then pay the fine and return Sancho.

If we get a competent manager in who isn’t going to leave every winger in a 3 v 1 situation then for 20M its a no brainer to keep him.

56 minutes ago, The Boehly Babes said:

If Maresca stays then pay the fine and return Sancho.

If we get a competent manager in who isn’t going to leave every winger in a 3 v 1 situation then for 20M its a no brainer to keep him.

Exactly this.

I think he's doing well considering the circumstances, it's hard for any winger or attacking player in this team to shine at the moment. You've got no options and limited space.

On 17/03/2025 at 07:38, ducavis said:

“Sancho created no chances, made no key passes and had no shots before being replaced in the 76th minute”

1 shot on target since Boxing Day, but some fans think he passes the eye test

It is throwing money onto the fire if we sign him. Do his performances justify 20 million. No chance. Does he contribute meaningful on pitch minutes, virtually next to nothing.

He's the sort of player Sam Allerdyce would have taken and rehabed into a effective player at Bolton. Reckon he'd look gracing the pitch at loftus road, he's a QPR-type player their dumb ass fans would love.

10 minutes ago, bluetrooper said:

It is throwing money onto the fire if we sign him. Do his performances justify 20 million. No chance. Does he contribute meaningful on pitch minutes, virtually next to nothing.

He's the sort of player Sam Allerdyce would have taken and rehabed into a effective player at Bolton. Reckon he'd look gracing the pitch at loftus road, he's a QPR-type player their dumb ass fans would love.

£20m on a squad player is perfectly reasonable. If we had bought Felix for £20m I wouldn't have been as upset.

18 minutes ago, Remodez said:

£20m on a squad player is perfectly reasonable. If we had bought Felix for £20m I wouldn't have been as upset.

It isn’t though; fans keep looking at the finances but there is more to it than the numbers. As a starter he is currently scoring every 721mins, has less contributions than Munoz & Ait Nouri, isn’t even ranked top 70 in the league contribution wise. Those numbers will become even worse as a squad player. What you will end up with is a squad player on fat wages relative to his contribution that you can’t shift. You are also ignoring the fact he will be blocking a new signing in that position, a talented youth winger, and offers zero competition for his position.

If he was on the market today there are probably only 3-4 that might be interested in his services that can pay his wages. The big clubs won’t touch him, so it’s probably a Forest, Palace, West Ham and Everton type club. Villa and Newcastle have better options and would pass on him.

29 minutes ago, Remodez said:

£20m on a squad player is perfectly reasonable. If we had bought Felix for £20m I wouldn't have been as upset.

Well we paid £50m, and initially Milan were ready to take him on another season loan and an obligation to buy at €40m. Now they have passed on him because he is a dud. We will be lucky to £30m in the summer because of his wages, unless we are rescued by a Saudi club.

5 minutes ago, ducavis said:

It isn’t though; fans keep looking at the finances but there is more to it than the numbers. As a starter he is currently scoring every 721mins, has less contributions than Munoz & Ait Nouri, isn’t even ranked top 70 in the league contribution wise. Those numbers will become even worse as a squad player. What you will end up with is a squad player on fat wages relative to his contribution that you can’t shift. You are also ignoring the fact he will be blocking a new signing in that position, a talented youth winger, and offers zero competition for his position.

If he was on the market today there are probably only 3-4 that might be interested in his services that can pay his wages. The big clubs won’t touch him, so it’s probably a Forest, Palace, West Ham and Everton type club. Villa and Newcastle have better options and would pass on him.

If he was the only winger we had with poor contributions I would be more willing to agree but as it stands this applies to them all. This suggests it's not just a Sancho problem. I am pretty sure he is taking a big wage cut to join us, around £150k mark i believe. We aren't going to pay him what he's on at United so he will still be easy to move on if required. If a team like Real Betis can afford to pay Anthony around £150k in wages then I'm sure we will be fine. Are you referring to Esetavo? His game time is not going to be effected by whether Sancho is here or not. It'll depend more on what we do with Noni.

At his United wages? Yeah probably zero takers At his reduced wages and a £20m transfer fee there would be quite a few big clubs willing to give him a chance.

9 minutes ago, Remodez said:

If he was the only winger we had with poor contributions I would be more willing to agree but as it stands this applies to them all. This suggests it's not just a Sancho problem. I am pretty sure he is taking a big wage cut to join us, around £150k mark i believe. We aren't going to pay him what he's on at United so he will still be easy to move on if required. If a team like Real Betis can afford to pay Anthony around £150k in wages then I'm sure we will be fine. Are you referring to Esetavo? His game time is not going to be effected by whether Sancho is here or not. It'll depend more on what we do with Noni.

At his United wages? Yeah probably zero takers At his reduced wages and a £20m transfer fee there would be quite a few big clubs willing to give him a chance.

We don’t even know if him taking a wage cut is true given recent reports.

13 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

We don’t even know if him taking a wage cut is true given recent reports.

It would have to be cause he's obviously not getting United wages here, we don't do that anymore.

17 minutes ago, Remodez said:

It would have to be cause he's obviously not getting United wages here, we don't do that anymore.

Right but he isn’t even worth it at £150kpw which is what we are currently covering right now.

11 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Right but he isn’t even worth it at £150kpw which is what we are currently covering right now.

Capology have Noni at £50K a week Tyrique George at £7.5K by way of comparison to Sancho.

The listings are interesting as a lot of the loan players are still in there, suggesting we are still paying 50%+ of their wages

ttps://www.capology.com/club/chelsea/salaries/

Not many players in the list that you could successfully argue as value-for-money. Sancho is far from alone !

9 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Right but he isn’t even worth it at £150kpw which is what we are currently covering right now.

I would agree, nor do I think Neto or Nukuku are worth their wages but unlike those 2 the transfer fee here makes it less bad.

It's not really a hill I'm willing to die on though. If we sign him great we have a decent experienced squad player, if not then I look forward to the next 17 year old we sign to start for us.

I dont blame Sancho for his lack of output. The same way I dont blame Nkunku. Both are decent players, being misused.

I dont blame Mudryk or Jackson for their lack of output - although I dont think either are anywhere near good enough for a premier league team.

The fact is that almost every attacking player in the world would suffer in this team. We are simply too predictable to play against, and too slow. We move the ball at snails pace. Inching forward, then sideways, then backwards, rinse repeat. How is any attacking player meant to flourish and consistently perform in those circumstances? I think some genius level players can unlock defences alone. Hazard used to. Palmer can to an extent. But most wont be able to consistently perform well in this team, in this system, with these instructions.

You either need: a) an on form world beater to rip teams apart single handedly, which in turn makes space for others b) a different system that doesnt see our wide players ganged up on week in week out or c) a manager who allows the team to play with the handbrake off....and let loose. If any one of those 3 things happen, then Sancho can be useful.

Another thing I forgot to mention is that we will almost certainly make back the 20m we spend on Sancho, outside of very extreme circumstances, should it not work out and we choose to sell him.

We're consistently signing teenagers with less than 20 senior appearances to their name for 20M+, this is a no brainer for me. As Remodez said, it's not a hill i'll die on but i find it strange so many people against it considering we spent 3x as much on players like Neto and chuck 20M up the wall on nobodies.

We'd easily be able to shift him on too. We got 23M for Angelo & Omari Hutchinson ffs.

Our recruitment of expensive teenagers is risky and unproven and will most probably turn out to be ultimately poor value for money, but that doesn't necessarily make completing the Sancho signing a good deal.

He's not productive enough to be a starter, nor is he someone that you could bring on to change a game either ((he doesn't cross and won't shoot, so how can he be a difference maker off the bench?) so that for me makes him a "fail" as a squad player, even if the fee is cheap.

Manchester United had a hard time even getting him out on loan ... what makes you think he'll be so easy to sell ?

This lot would have signed Kakuta for £30m, Islam Feruz for £35m, Kenedy for £30m, Musonda for £40m.

Not every young player with promise is going to make it. Most don't. Spending so much money on these teenagers is reckless beyond belief.