1 hour ago, Zeta said:

This lot would have signed Kakuta for £30m, Islam Feruz for £35m, Kenedy for £30m, Musonda for £40m.

Not every young player with promise is going to make it. Most don't. Spending so much money on these teenagers is reckless beyond belief.

Good examples to highlight the high potential risk of their strategy.

It could all come good of course, but the odds are hugely stacked against them.

I'm more worried about the next tier up though. Players such as Sanchez £25m, Cucurella £56m, Badiashile £35m, Mudryk £62m, Fernandez £107m, Fofana £70m, and Lavia £53m are all looking like big losses on re-sale as it stands (Lavia and Fofana more for fitness reasons than issues with ability)

I'm worried about basically every player they've signed except Palmer and Caicedo.

29 minutes ago, Zeta said:

I'm worried about basically every player they've signed except Palmer and Caicedo.

When Boehly sang his Meat Loaf tribute song at the Club's Christmas Karaoke party, the track he picked was "2 out of 47 ain't bad"

2 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Our recruitment of expensive teenagers is risky and unproven and will most probably turn out to be ultimately poor value for money, but that doesn't necessarily make completing the Sancho signing a good deal.

He's not productive enough to be a starter, nor is he someone that you could bring on to change a game either ((he doesn't cross and won't shoot, so how can he be a difference maker off the bench?) so that for me makes him a "fail" as a squad player, even if the fee is cheap.

Manchester United had a hard time even getting him out on loan ... what makes you think he'll be so easy to sell ?

Spot on! That is what fans keep missing about the low fee. Ever since he came out after his 2nd game here and said coaches in training were urging him to shoot more, I gave up. He isn’t a 17-18yr old kid but has been playing top level football for 6yrs. 23 games in the message still hasn’t registered; he is taking less than 1 shot per game. No way is he someone you bring on off the bench.

Think it would be well funny to screw United over and they have both Antony/Sancho back leeching almost half a billion a week from the club.

2 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Think it would be well funny to screw United over and they have both Antony/Sancho back leeching almost half a billion a week from the club.

They're being paid how much?!

On 18/03/2025 at 07:16, The Boehly Babes said:

If Maresca stays then pay the fine and return Sancho.

If we get a competent manager in who isn’t going to leave every winger in a 3 v 1 situation then for 20M its a no brainer to keep him.

Sancho was also sh*t at United though, and he played under coaches that played a very different style to Maresca.

Take the fine and send him back, regardless of who is manager next season.

I like him he started well but tailed off like all of our players so it’s not unique to him. For £20m it’s a bargain and I would be keeping him he’s the only player that trust in tight spaces.

He needs to players around him to start firing to help him out.

15 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Sancho was also sh*t at United though, and he played under coaches that played a very different style to Maresca.

Take the fine and send him back, regardless of who is manager next season.

Utd as an example club probably helps Boehly Babes argument. Look at Antony there and look at him now in Spain.

Look at McTominay, Wan Bissaka, Rashford etc. all since leaving.

On 19/03/2025 at 12:44, Sexyfootball said:

Good examples to highlight the high potential risk of their strategy.

It could all come good of course, but the odds are hugely stacked against them.

I'm more worried about the next tier up though. Players such as Sanchez £25m, Cucurella £56m, Badiashile £35m, Mudryk £62m, Fernandez £107m, Fofana £70m, and Lavia £53m are all looking like big losses on re-sale as it stands (Lavia and Fofana more for fitness reasons than issues with ability)

I knew all these signings were crap before they even laid pen to paper. Only one I was keen on was Lavia.

13 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Utd as an example club probably helps Boehly Babes argument. Look at Antony there and look at him now in Spain.

Look at McTominay, Wan Bissaka, Rashford etc. all since leaving.

Mctom was decent for Utd. They miss him. Much like Gallagher for us.

Rashford and AWB are still average players and have found their level at lower level clubs.

16 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Utd as an example club probably helps Boehly Babes argument. Look at Antony there and look at him now in Spain.

Look at McTominay, Wan Bissaka, Rashford etc. all since leaving.

McTominay doing well in Serie A means little, that league that has fallen off really badly. Just look at Loftus-Cheek and Pulisic, they are suddenly playing at a high level after struggling in the Premier League. You had Giroud as a regular starter there when he couldn't keep up with the pace of the Premier League anymore. Ashley Young won a league title over there as a regular starter.

Anthony is still sh*t, but he suits La Liga more than the Premier League.

Wan Bissaka is doing okay in a team below mid table, his performances wouldn't be acceptable at a club that wanted to compete at the top.

Rashford, it's the usual PR hype. The media have a boner for the guy. He hasn't been that good, and hasn't even scored a goal for Villa yet.

Edited March 21, 20251 yr by Scott Harris

9 hours ago, KonaKai Blue said:

Mctom was decent for Utd. They miss him. Much like Gallagher for us.

Rashford and AWB are still average players and have found their level at lower level clubs.

McTominay was a laughing stock at utd, now one of the top players in Italy.

AWB is doing brilliantly now he's left and Rashford is playing in the CL. 'lower level club'

6 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

McTominay doing well in Serie A means little, that league that has fallen off really badly. Just look at Loftus-Cheek and Pulisic, they are suddenly playing at a high level after struggling in the Premier League. You had Giroud as a regular starter there when he couldn't keep up with the pace of the Premier League anymore. Ashley Young won a league title over there as a regular starter.

Anthony is still sh*t, but he suits La Liga more than the Premier League.

Wan Bissaka is doing okay in a team below mid table, his performances wouldn't be acceptable at a club that wanted to compete at the top.

Rashford, it's the usual PR hype. The media have a boner for the guy. He hasn't been that good, and hasn't even scored a goal for Villa yet.

We never should have sold RLC either, he walks into our midfield when fit.

A lot of copium to fit your agenda.

9 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

We never should have sold RLC either, he walks into our midfield when fit.

A lot of copium to fit your agenda.

10 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

McTominay was a laughing stock at utd, now one of the top players in Italy.

AWB is doing brilliantly now he's left and Rashford is playing in the CL. 'lower level club'

McTominay is not one of the top players in Italy, he's doing what he did at United for the most part, but playing in a much slower league with defending and goalkeeping thats even worse than ours at times. He picks up the odd goal here and there, but he doesn't control games or anything like that.

Loftus-Cheek wouldn't walk into our midfield because the pace of the league was too much for him. He prefers a slower tempo. Before his injury this season with Milan, he wasn't having the best of seasons either.

Wan Bissaka is average. He will have his moments, but he's a mid table player. It's not like he has greatly improved things for West Ham seeing as they sit 16th in the league.

As for Rashford playing in the Champions League, I don't see why that means anything. He's just lucky somebody is giving him a second chance. It's Ascensio that is impressing the most out of the two, by a long distance.

Sancho's technical ability is superb, but there must be something in his head that is stopping him from taking on his opponents and dribble them. A few tricks and backwards and sideways passes without any substance, I am afraid is not good enough and week in, week out I am waiting for him to up his game and add that extra explosiveness, take on his opponents and make things happen on the left wing, but it never happenes... It is a pity really.

Don't think we will send him back to United as it would look bad for our reputation and future negociations with other clubs, but 27-30M is not a lot and I believe there will be a decent amount of clubs interested in him. Will either buy him and then sell him for a small profit which is easily doable this summer, or keep him as a squad player. But I believe 100% he will not be a regular next season, too, should he stay here.

1 hour ago, petre ispirescu said:

Sancho's technical ability is superb, but there must be something in his head that is stopping him from taking on his opponents and dribble them. A few tricks and backwards and sideways passes without any substance, I am afraid is not good enough and week in, week out I am waiting for him to up his game and add that extra explosiveness, take on his opponents and make things happen on the left wing, but it never happenes... It is a pity really.

Don't think we will send him back to United as it would look bad for our reputation and future negociations with other clubs, but 27-30M is not a lot and I believe there will be a decent amount of clubs interested in him. Will either buy him and then sell him for a small profit which is easily doable this summer, or keep him as a squad player. But I believe 100% he will not be a regular next season, too, should he stay here.

He's not a good dribbler, and he also lacks pace and power, so he's easy to bully out of a game. I'm still struggling to see how he's a winger at all to be honest. He doesn't stand out in any area that makes a winger a winger other than having good control of the ball.

Doesn't have much of a shot on him, doesn't have the pace and power to take on a full back and get a cross in. He also seems to lack hunger at times. When things are tough, he's not going to be the one you look at to take some control back.

Edited March 21, 20251 yr by Scott Harris

3 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

He's not a good dribbler, and he also lacks pace and power, so he's easy to bully out of a game. I'm still struggling to see how he's a winger at all to be honest. He doesn't stand out in any area that makes a winger a winger other than having good control of the ball.

Doesn't have much of a shot on him, doesn't have the pace and power to take on a full back and get a cross in. He also seems to lack hunger at times. When things are tough, he's not going to be the one you look at to take some control back.

That's why the German league seems to be the best fit for him. High lines and huge gaps in behind the defenders.

3 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

He's not a good dribbler, and he also lacks pace and power, so he's easy to bully out of a game. I'm still struggling to see how he's a winger at all to be honest. He doesn't stand out in any area that makes a winger a winger other than having good control of the ball.

Doesn't have much of a shot on him, doesn't have the pace and power to take on a full back and get a cross in. He also seems to lack hunger at times. When things are tough, he's not going to be the one you look at to take some control back.

Well said & spot on. I don’t understand why given all of this fans still want him as a squad player. Imagine losing 1-0 and bringing him on at the 75th min, what is the point? He can’t and won’t shoot, he won’t stretch the opposition and definitely can’t run into the space.

I love that he is being called out by our ex-players for being trash and not worth signing.

https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1903921225274933328?s=46

When they said 'significant fee' to send him back to United I thought it would be a lot more. We should just pay it.

47 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1903921225274933328?s=46

When they said 'significant fee' to send him back to United I thought it would be a lot more. We should just pay it.

send him back and make stewart and winstanley pay the 5mill between them.

2 hours ago, timetowaste said:

https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1903921225274933328?s=46

When they said 'significant fee' to send him back to United I thought it would be a lot more. We should just pay it.

Assuming what he reports is true. Could be face saving from the owners. Sadly we cannot trust anything speculated by the bought media.

If £5m is all it is, then we should take that penalty fee.

At the same time though, it would mean clubs will no longer trust the owners going forward if we try and make a similar loan deal.

Either way, it's yet another Winstanley and Stewart f**k up, amongst a sea of f**k ups.

Send him back.

On 19/03/2025 at 19:32, Zeta said:

This lot would have signed Kakuta for £30m, Islam Feruz for £35m, Kenedy for £30m, Musonda for £40m.

Not every young player with promise is going to make it. Most don't. Spending so much money on these teenagers is reckless beyond belief.

Imo spending money on teenager is not a bad plan if you look at it from financial pov.

The chance you can recoup their value or get more is so much higher compare to signing a more established player. Furthermore, you also pay lesser salary which is good for your finance.

Edited March 24, 20251 yr by Bob stark