6 hours ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

So you would pick Hazard over Ronaldo?

Please dont twist my words just to go for the sensational headline.

It's a valid question if you think both are world class isn't it?

If you're going to say he is inconsistent as well and on top of that call Ronaldo a hindrance on his team unless he scores I don't see how I'm twisting your words. 

I'm not going to jump down your throat either way, I just think there are very few world class players and one way of gauging that for me is who I would pick over others so I'm interested in who you would do as well because I can't see why so many think it's a slight to Hazard if you don't call him world class. 

4 hours ago, Ernie_blue said:

Nothing to do with me, I said I don't like how stats can be manipulated to prove a point even though within that one stat there could be 20 questions. I don't like assist stats where you can play a 2yrd pass then someone takes 11 players on and he still gets the assist. Nothing wrong in that so what your saying is pointless. 

Your first point makes no sense either. What if Arsenal fans had the same debate about Ozil, everyone's entitled to there opinion. 

Anyway where was the dispute about the stats of Hazard? Sorry but it really was a pointless post. No point in moaning about Trump when it was the American people who voted him in, get on with it.

Ernie some words of advice...

You want to downplay stats but you make no attempt to understand it. If you want to be taken seriously here, I suggest you try to understand how the stats websites work. 

You want to support Jose but you do not make any attempt to be up to date with what he says. If you want your opinion to be taken seriously, I again suggest that you arm yourself with facts.

Arm waving with no rationale or justification whatsoever is what brought on the Trump analogy. Nobody was moaning about him but using his example. If you refuse to even see why Trump was referenced there, I dont have much hope that you will do any research before forming an opinion even in the future.

I see Real Madrid lost 2-1 to Valencia last night. Not sure what Ronaldo, Bale, Modric etc were up to - if only they were as consistent as Hazard..............!!!

 

 

^ I like numbers and stats. That said, the Squawka ranking is not a stat, it's an arbitrary performance indicator that's based on a number of stats.

Lad's getting a half sleeve tattoo soon, apparently.

 

He needs to turn up against Swansea otherwise he probably won't even make top 3 for the PFA POTY award.

28 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

Lad's getting a half sleeve tattoo soon, apparently.

 

He's turning more into Messi every day. All he needs to do now is dye his hair blonde, not pay his tax for a few years and carry his Brazilian winger teammate every game. 

 

Actually scrap that last bit, Eden does that with Willian anyway.

Yeah if only he could really, really turn into Messi.

7 hours ago, ashwin said:

Ernie some words of advice...

You want to downplay stats but you make no attempt to understand it. If you want to be taken seriously here, I suggest you try to understand how the stats websites work. 

You want to support Jose but you do not make any attempt to be up to date with what he says. If you want your opinion to be taken seriously, I again suggest that you arm yourself with facts.

Arm waving with no rationale or justification whatsoever is what brought on the Trump analogy. Nobody was moaning about him but using his example. If you refuse to even see why Trump was referenced there, I dont have much hope that you will do any research before forming an opinion even in the future.

With a post like that I won't be taking your advice. It has taken me twice to try and get across to you the problems in the Mourinho thread and it looks like you still can't seem to understand it so what more can I do. The problem isn't how up to date you are with what he says. I have seen today Mourinho moaning about the fa cup tie being on a Monday so I am very up to date thank you. It's just I don't put a link on the thread then call him a c*** everytime something is said. So get up to date on the thread yourself and realise the real problems instead of moaning at me. Also I was asking about the link to get prove of the poster who couldn't actually supply a link but you couldn't understand that either. Also you get a better grasp of what was said if you read the whole article than just 5 words.

Regarding stats can you stop going on about them. No one has mentioned Hazards stats or even had an debate about them. So stop trying to come up with random posts to find any way to have some sort of go at me. No one is talking about stats. So I have to reasearch every stat website to form an opinion now, come on. Go and tell that to every pundit. Sourness watches Chelsea and says Matic had a bad game after the match but ashwin says he had a 90% pass date and you didn't do your research that says he had a good game. Even though you can see he had a bad game. 

Yes I don't think Hazard is World class, yes it's no big deal. Move on.

2 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

He's turning more into Messi every day. All he needs to do now is dye his hair blonde, not pay his tax for a few years and carry his Brazilian winger teammate every game. 

 

Actually scrap that last bit, Eden does that with Willian anyway.

I think this is the best post in the whole thread. Absolutely creasing here.

2 hours ago, pacquiao said:

He needs to turn up against Swansea otherwise he probably won't even make top 3 for the PFA POTY award.

I think he will and even if he does not that is a far-fetched statement. There are still a lot of games left for him to make an impact and right now the bookies have him and kante as favourites. Bookis are rarely wrong.

4 hours ago, STATS said:

I think he will and even if he does not that is a far-fetched statement. There are still a lot of games left for him to make an impact and right now the bookies have him and kante as favourites. Bookis are rarely wrong.

It's crunch time now, this is the time of year where players usually win the POTY award, Bale won it by turning up this time of the season even though he was pretty average in the 1st half of the season, and after Hazards poor performance against Burnley he needs to start putting in MOTM performances otherwise he isn't even going to make the top 3! Kante, Ibra and Costa will be in the top 3 with Sanchez just missing out, Hazard really needs to step up if he want that POTY award.

and when it comes to player awards the bookies have got it wrong before, I remember a few years ago getting 20/1 on Ribery winning the European POTY award, just a few weeks before the award was handed out. 

42 minutes ago, pacquiao said:

It's crunch time now, this is the time of year where players usually win the POTY award, Bale won it by turning up this time of the season even though he was pretty average in the 1st half of the season, and after Hazards poor performance against Burnley he needs to start putting in MOTM performances otherwise he isn't even going to make the top 3! Kante, Ibra and Costa will be in the top 3 with Sanchez just missing out, Hazard really needs to step up if he want that POTY award.

and when it comes to player awards the bookies have got it wrong before, I remember a few years ago getting 20/1 on Ribery winning the European POTY award, just a few weeks before the award was handed out. 

United and Arsenal don't look like they will win the title which is why unless Hazard goes on a really long spell of bad form which I doubt, then that is only way he will fall out of contention. When it comes to PFA player of the year though they usually are right. Sanchez is way off according to the bookies. Probably because of Arsenal's failings once again but Hazard has had more top class performances than below-par, so rightly he is up there. This game will not change anything unless he goes on a barren spell of poor games. Hazard will be back to his best once again though on Saturday, I am sure of it. Costa too, he always scores against Swansea. 7 goals in 4 games against them.

Edited February 23, 20179 yr by STATS

14 minutes ago, STATS said:

United and Arsenal don't look like they will win the title which is why unless Hazard goes on a really long spell of bad form which I doubt, then that is only way he will fall out of contention. When it comes to PFA player of the year though they usually are right. Sanchez is way off according to the bookies. Probably because of Arsenal's failings once again but Hazard has had more top class performances than below-par, so rightly he is up there. This game will not change anything unless he goes on a barren spell of poor games. Hazard will be back to his best once again though on Saturday, I am sure of it. Costa too, he always scores against Swansea. 7 goals in 4 games against them.

I hope you're right.

I laughed at this. Is this even real?

 

 

I just don't trust the British media when it comes to transfer window

 

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/590700/Eden-Hazard-Real-Madrid-Chelsea-transfer-news

Only way Hazard has a chance to leave is if he tries to force his way out or Real Madrid offer us Bale, and I can't see either scenario happening. 

He ain't leaving

Real has been trying to buy him for the last 3 seasons, if we believe all the rumors. There's no doubt he's an attractive option for Real, but we aren't a selling club

Wait for the sensational bid, atm no known fee?

150mil pounds and we can start thinking about it.

I would imagine if Hazard were sold, god forbid, that Conte would adopt the 352. I think the only reason we currently play 343 is to accommodate this lad.

We may not be able to compete at the very top end of the transfer market anymore, but we have no history of selling our best players at their peak, unless they are injury prone, or surplus to requirements.

We ain't the cocks from WHL !!!! If they had kept Bale they would of had that Premier league title by now, maybe more than one.

On 2/22/2017 at 23:00, TheChelseaBlues said:

It's a valid question if you think both are world class isn't it?

If you're going to say he is inconsistent as well and on top of that call Ronaldo a hindrance on his team unless he scores I don't see how I'm twisting your words. 

I'm not going to jump down your throat either way, I just think there are very few world class players and one way of gauging that for me is who I would pick over others so I'm interested in who you would do as well because I can't see why so many think it's a slight to Hazard if you don't call him world class. 

The point is every player also has flaws and he would probably be scrutinised for them if he was a Chelsea player. He (Ronaldo) is basically like an extreme goal poacher these days in fact some of his decision making and passing in general play is embarrassing (certainly lows that Eden would never hit), i remember watching a Classico once and someone said he was Barca's best defender on the night.