15 minutes ago, Brutos said:

Baka came off a am Impressive as Manaco and Drinkwater was superb in his title winning season and still had great season after and the price we paid compared to the inflated prices since last season was pretty good.

He was pants at Monaco, a good amount of people questioned it on here at the time because of all their attacking and midfield talent he was the one that looked bang average.

 

If we let him run down his contract there is no way Real Madrid sign him. 29 years old with Mbappe entering his prime, why would they choose Hazard. In that case I can see Sarri convincing him to stay with his football style.

3 minutes ago, Total-Football said:

If we let him run down his contract there is no way Real Madrid sign him. 29 years old with Mbappe entering his prime, why would they choose Hazard. In that case I can see Sarri convincing him to stay with his football style.

If we let it run down Real Madrid and about 10 other top sides will be in for him because he will cost nothing......

 

26 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

One thing is for sure. He should be our number 1 target.

Lol. As if.

8 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

If we let it run down Real Madrid and about 10 other top sides will be in for him because he will cost nothing......

 

Fine. We got him for 8 years in his prime. At that point I can't see him being as irreplaceable as he is right now. If we lose him now we are much worse off then in two years time.

If they did offer around 200m for him then I would be in the camp of selling him. I think he's been a fantastic player for us but if he wants to leave and we should sell him now and avoid having it drag on like Sanchez and Arsenal. The timing is not ideal but we have a new manager, I'd like to him to build around players who are going to be here for the next couple of seasons (if he doesn't get sacked)

It's tough too buy a replacement for him and it's also tough to put trust in the board to replace him with quality. I do think there's players out there that can fill his boots and certainty players with the potential. They don't have to play in his position but we could potentially sign someone just as effective elsewhere.

If he did leave, others would need to step up but signing someone like Martial and giving him a long run of games I feel could be an effective purchase for us. Will he have the same effect as hazard? Doubtful but I think he's enough to achieve our goals. It really depends how the board use the money if we sold him. We could buy 2-3 top quality players with huge potential with that sort of money. This is all if he wants to leave that is. Different story if he's unsure.

The big big players are a bit unrealistic for us, it's tough to buy the likes of Isco because he's an important part of that squad and will require a huge fee close to Hazards. The only one I would test the waters in bidding on is Dybala, with their Ronaldo purchase they surely need to clear up funds. Though it seems like we are helping them with Rugani and Higuain.

If he did get sold now for a huge fee and we bought 2 £60 - 100m quality players for the amount we got for Hazard and they had time to grow with the rest of the squad under Sarri for his time here. I dont think that's a bad thing.

Liverpool got lucky with Salah but they spent wisely with the Coutinho money they received.

 

Edited July 18, 20188 yr by Sheva

If he's adamant he wants to go, and the fee is huge I don't see how we can stop him. If he's decided he's done, and we force him to stay, we might get the half-arsed Hazard we've seen a few times in his career here. Not to mention, waiting till next year enormously reduces the fee we can expect.

 

The big problem though...I don't think we can get close to replacing him. Perhaps if he were to go, our attack could still function as a unit, rather than relying on one star player...but that could be optimistic. Everything has funneled through him in recent years.

1 minute ago, Cam said:

The big problem though...I don't think we can get close to replacing him. Perhaps if he were to go, our attack could still function as a unit, rather than relying on one star player...but that could be optimistic. Everything has funneled through him in recent years.

With the new manager in place you could argue it's the perfect time to change that if he wants to leave.

2 hours ago, benjsross said:

Lol. As if.

I know I know. Not the club that does that anymore .

11 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Sam Wallace, chief football writer for The Telegraph has reported that Madrid’s recent financial results mean they’re can’t pay £100m upward fees upfront and that the club as a whole is moving away from the galactico style signing, as a recent shift in transfer policy as bought them success. 

A well connected (according to Wallace) Madrid based Libertad Digital has since reported something similar saying that none of Hazard, Mbappe, Neymar or Kane will be signed by Madrid. 

I have seen that. I am stating don't see how with the sale of Ronaldo and UCL win plus revenue they receive, how they cannot afford the cost. I don't understand why their financial results will be so bad, considering they have been quite, quiet in past few seasons instead of paying huge millions.

Maybe all the years of overspending now it's time to pay back the loans....

I have seen that. I am stating don't see how with the sale of Ronaldo and UCL win plus revenue they receive, how they cannot afford the cost. I don't understand why their financial results will be so bad, considering they have been quite, quiet in past few seasons instead of paying huge millions.

44 minutes ago, STATS said:

I have seen that. I am stating don't see how with the sale of Ronaldo and UCL win plus revenue they receive, how they cannot afford the cost. I don't understand why their financial results will be so bad, considering they have been quite, quiet in past few seasons instead of paying huge millions.

Don’t know, excessive wage bill maybe? Having to pay off past loans or debts? 

I don’t think a club like Madrid, especially with Perez in charge, reigns in spending like they have (despite their success in Europe) unless they’re in trouble if they don’t.

11 hours ago, Davey Baby said:

I've got a feeling he will stay. Remember, Lampard flirted with Inter and Terry flirted with City. We'll keep him this summer, he'll grow to love Sarri, the fans will sing his name every week with gusto and he'll sign for life. You heard it here first.

I love a bit of optimism and I am totally on board with this point of view.  Well, what have I got to lose?

Reading all the comments above about Real's possible financial limitations is very encouraging (although previously the King seems to have just bailed them out) but i still get the horrible feeling that a deal has already been pencilled in and initially agreed.

I just get the feeling that our pursuit of new players in addition to Jorginho will be on the back of the money they know that they are going to get for Hazard. I really hope i'm wrong of course especially as, ironically, Hazard of all players would benefit the most from Sarri's anticipated style of football

49 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

Reading all the comments above about Real's possible financial limitations is very encouraging (although previously the King seems to have just bailed them out) but i still get the horrible feeling that a deal has already been pencilled in and initially agreed.

I just get the feeling that our pursuit of new players in addition to Jorginho will be on the back of the money they know that they are going to get for Hazard. I really hope i'm wrong of course especially as, ironically, Hazard of all players would benefit the most from Sarri's anticipated style of football

We will probably had a budget of somewhere in the region of £80m-100m available for transfers, without having to spend, if we need anything above that budget then we may need to sell players sales, but there are a lot of other players that need to be sold, before we even consider raising funds by selling our best player.

Willian for instance at £60m, Courtois at £35m, (Morata if Higuain comes in)

Then there is the surplus; Cahill, Drinkwater, Zappacosta, Bakayoko, Giroud, Loan army; Zouma, Omerou, Kalas, Piazon, etc That's minimum £100m worth of players that are surplus to requirements that can be used to fund transfers.

The sale of Hazard really isn't needed.

From Madrid's perspective this transfer is clearly not that needed as you think it is. they have Isco in his prime, Bale in his prime, James in his prime(they won't bring him back so that's another proof about the lack of necessity we are talking about), Asensio(future star), Vazquez(future star).... these are 5 men for 3 positions, the wings and the playmaker spot, which Hazard belong to as well. Ronaldo is not a natural winger for years, even with Benzema on the pitch, he was dominating the box. So Real Madrid needs a striker or someone capable of going that deep well and score many goals. Hazard is clearly not this man.

So if they buy someone like Hazard and he eats the minutes of the above players, this could be taken as a form of betrayal by them. they've been waiting for this chance for years. And I believe Perez and the board are very happy with the level of consistency, devotion and performance they've delivered throughout Ronaldo's era.

So by led by this logic, I can't even put Eden in top5 of their targets list. there have to be more men before him, not only Neymar or Mbappe - Lewandowski, Kane or someone natural scorer.

Edited July 19, 20188 yr by Giordano_Bruno

I like that you try to make sense of it all. I agree with your comments as well.

In this case I just don't trust Real Madrid. They know football but in terms of brand they bring in these stars. Not always football first. 

Not saying Hazard is a big brand in football but he can be. In general people love him no matter which is your favorite team. This world cup really highlighted it. 

I think they can fit Hazard in their system and actually build their play around Eden. 

Now I really really hope we can keep Eden as he is our best player and biggest star but atm I'm not convinced. 

Barcelona apparently offering Dembele plus cash for hazard. 

Probably more appealing for us, rather than him going to madrid. If we got enough cash to get another top attacker, it could be a good deal for us in the long run. 

Obviously it would be fantastic if we could swap Willian for dembele and keep hazard aswell. 

We would be devastating on the wings with Hazard and Dembele.

I'd certainly think long and hard if Barcelona were to offer 100mil and Dembele...but the likelihood of that is pretty damn low. They'd probably want a straight swap.

12 hours ago, PedroMendez said:

That's minimum £100m worth of players that are surplus to requirements that can be used to fund transfers.

All I think of when I see posts of people (not a personal dig at you or anyone in particular I promise!) plucking figures from the air...

4 hours ago, Cam said:

I'd certainly think long and hard if Barcelona were to offer 100mil and Dembele...but the likelihood of that is pretty damn low. They'd probably want a straight swap.

100€ and Dembele and we are still short of a world class player. 

le10 sport have reported we have agreed €190m with madrid. 

Don't think they are the most reliable tbh.

18 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

I really hope i'm wrong of course especially as, ironically, Hazard of all players would benefit the most from Sarri's anticipated style of football

It would be a very interesting path of Hazard's life I think, cause he joined Chelsea after the Champions league win in 2012 and now he would join Real Madrid after they have been dominating in Europe...And I do wish him all the best but it looks like one of those things that won't work out in the long run, I hope his career path decision makes him win the Champions League if that's what he wants but I personally do feel that if he chose to stay with Chelsea now, he will benefit the most from it and he will become one of the biggest legends in the club.

7 hours ago, evissy said:

100€ and Dembele and we are still short of a world class player. 

I know that...but the likelihood is that if we were to lose Hazard, we'd be short of a world class player regardless, because we can't adequately replace him. Dembele is very talented though, and he can potentially get there.

It's not like I want to lose Hazard. I'd much rather he sign a new 5 year contract, and be here until he retires...but how likely is that at the moment?

1 hour ago, Cam said:

I know that...but the likelihood is that if we were to lose Hazard, we'd be short of a world class player regardless, because we can't adequately replace him. Dembele is very talented though, and he can potentially get there.

It's not like I want to lose Hazard. I'd much rather he sign a new 5 year contract, and be here until he retires...but how likely is that at the moment?

I'd take 100m and a proven player. Dembele looks like a talent but not someone we can field week in week out.