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Our New Stadium

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Just watched this.

It covers most of the arguments and options. I'm in my 60's now and been going to the Bridge for well over 50yrs. I may never get to see the new stadium but to me the best  option by far is  Earls Court. Like it was pointed out it's for future generations, my sons are true blues and soon their kids will be also going to watch Chelsea. I used to often get asked why do my kids support Chelsea and my answer was always, it's either Chelsea or Dr. Barnardo's.

 

19 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

I know millions for a new or rebuild stadium were guaranteed in the takeover, but who enforces that ? What if Todd says he isn't going to spend anything, is that it ?

I assume it was part of the initial takeover contract or whatever

53 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

This tweet really shows why we need a bigger stadium to keep up with our rivals 

 

I spent some time trawling the internet for the 2022 filed accounts for the "Big Six"

Here is a summary :

image.png.c7b4456a2b6f87d8dfff4e24a7250b5b.png

 

Based on the turnover data for Spurs, Arsenal and United, the ceiling for match day revenue with a bigger stadium looks currently to be about £110m, or about £80m if we aren't in Europe. That's not much of an increase for us when we are likely going to have to spend up to £2 Billion to get there. ROI pay back period will be decades unless there is some other way to leverage the bigger stadium.

The key to our overall revenue growth for me will be on the Commercial side of things, or in finding new ways to grow the TV money. TV Money in it's current format has a definite limit, and is dependent on results on the pitch to deliver to the maximum of that limit (see difference between us and Arsenal for likely impact of no CL next year, £235m vs £145m)

2 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

I spent some time trawling the internet for the 2022 filed accounts for the "Big Six"

Here is a summary :

image.png.c7b4456a2b6f87d8dfff4e24a7250b5b.png

 

Based on the turnover data for Spurs, Arsenal and United, the ceiling for match day revenue with a bigger stadium looks currently to be about £110m, or about £80m if we aren't in Europe. That's not much of an increase for us when we are likely going to have to spend up to £2 Billion to get there. ROI pay back period will be decades unless there is some other way to leverage the bigger stadium.

The key to our overall revenue growth for me will be on the Commercial side of things, or in finding new ways to grow the TV money. TV Money in it's current format has a definite limit, and is dependent on results on the pitch to deliver to the maximum of that limit (see difference between us and Arsenal for likely impact of no CL next year, £235m vs £145m)

I expect that a new stadium elevates our commercial revenue as well. Are we going to play at that 250m number with a 40k stadium with limited corp seats. 

That 2bn (potentially too high a number) also isn't vs 0. It's vs however much it will cost to keep the east stand from falling down in 5-10 years. 

21 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

You'd expect Boehly will find ways to increase commercial revenue relatively easily. 

We need him too, we know the other PL clubs are pushing for Man City to be punished if found guilty in that investigation, I would expect they all push the us to get a points deduction if we brake the PL profit and sustainability rules.

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

We need him too, we know the other PL clubs are pushing for Man City to be punished if found guilty in that investigation, I would expect they all push the us to get a points deduction if we brake the PL profit and sustainability rules.

As we should, but it's different levels of punishment. If we fail to hit our targets for profit, we get punished with points. City however are fraudulently claiming they have...and it's just obvious they are. Their punishment should and could be expulsion. 

48 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

As we should, but it's different levels of punishment. If we fail to hit our targets for profit, we get punished with points. City however are fraudulently claiming they have...and it's just obvious they are. Their punishment should and could be expulsion. 

Yes I do not see such a punishment coming our way, but could see around a 12 point deduction.

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

Yes I do not see such a punishment coming our way, but could see around a 12 point deduction.

If we hit champions league next season, I dont think we will breach the profit rules. We are going to make quite a significant amount in sales.

8 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

I spent some time trawling the internet for the 2022 filed accounts for the "Big Six"

Here is a summary :

image.png.c7b4456a2b6f87d8dfff4e24a7250b5b.png

 

Based on the turnover data for Spurs, Arsenal and United, the ceiling for match day revenue with a bigger stadium looks currently to be about £110m, or about £80m if we aren't in Europe. That's not much of an increase for us when we are likely going to have to spend up to £2 Billion to get there. ROI pay back period will be decades unless there is some other way to leverage the bigger stadium.

The key to our overall revenue growth for me will be on the Commercial side of things, or in finding new ways to grow the TV money. TV Money in it's current format has a definite limit, and is dependent on results on the pitch to deliver to the maximum of that limit (see difference between us and Arsenal for likely impact of no CL next year, £235m vs £145m)

Fair but I think as bisright pointed out, there are some commercial benefits that come with having a new stadium beyond matchday revenue. Not sure what the reception will be towards our stadium having a commercial name like the Allianz, Etihad or Emirates but I imagine that's what our owners will do for a new stadium considering they are very much interested in replicating the Red Bull and Man City model. That probably will cut down on the expenses of the stadium.

21 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Fair but I think as bisright pointed out, there are some commercial benefits that come with having a new stadium beyond matchday revenue. Not sure what the reception will be towards our stadium having a commercial name like the Allianz, Etihad or Emirates but I imagine that's what our owners will do for a new stadium considering they are very much interested in replicating the Red Bull and Man City model. That probably will cut down on the expenses of the stadium.

Yes, and I guess Jonathan Goldstein on the board has extensive experience of real estate and property development to get best value in any building work, and if we do leave the Bridge then the sale of prime land along the Fulham Road will offset a lot of the new stadium cost.

8 hours ago, bisright1 said:

If we hit champions league next season, I dont think we will breach the profit rules. We are going to make quite a significant amount in sales.

"if we hit champions league next season"....

Love your optimism!

  • 2 weeks later...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12003137/IN-MONEY-Chelsea-plan-build-2BILLION-expansion-Stamford-Bridge.html

 

budget upped to 2 billion! im hearing we're going to hire the same guy who designed the previous rumoured stadium (the bird nest looking one) but now to work with a much higher budget.

Also good news that we're sticking with stamford bridge

Loads of empty seats tonight anyone who thinks that a 60,000 capacity stadium whether it be at the bridge, Earls Court or four or five seasons at Wembley will be a sellout every week is frankly deluded we are at a crossroads and to be honest 40,000 is more than enough the way things are going.

Edited by bluehaze

On 11/04/2023 at 19:45, Sexyfootball said:

Yes, and I guess Jonathan Goldstein on the board has extensive experience of real estate and property development to get best value in any building work, and if we do leave the Bridge then the sale of prime land along the Fulham Road will offset a lot of the new stadium cost.

Good point. Earls Court is not a sh*t hole however it’s not as exclusive as our current location. Not sure how the Stamford Bridge acreage and the proposed new plot compare?

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, Fruit Bat said:

Good point. Earls Court is not a sh*t hole however it’s not as exclusive as our current location. Not sure how the Stamford Bridge acreage and the proposed new plot compare?

The Earls Court site is a lot bigger. Figures I've seen suggest 40 acres vs 11.9 acres at Stamford Bridge, albeit a good proportion of that 40 acres is a fairly irregular shape when it comes to putting a football ground on it ...

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