1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

The last bit is the key though.

Van Dijk is arguably just as good as either Terry or Rio were their best.

He really really isn't.

4 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Make sure you show this to every Liverpool fan. They will have a meltdown. They all rate Van Dijk over Terry, but they never disagree with with anything Stevie Me says 😆

f**k Stevie Gerrard, who cares what he thinks ? Or what Liverpool fans think about our legend JT .

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23 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

The last bit is the key though.

Van Dijk is arguably just as good as either Terry or Rio were their best. The difference is that the latter two were at the top level for more than a decade. 

At 26 years old, Terry was lifting his 2nd Premier League trophy. Being in the UEFA Team of the season alongside Nesta.

At 26 Van Dijk was at Southampton. 

 

Terry had to defend against Henry, Rooney, Tevez, Aguero, Bergkamp, Suarez, RVP all in their primes.

Who's Van Dijk realistically had to go up against at Liverpool? Kane? An old Aguero? 

22 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Terry had to defend against Henry, Rooney, Tevez, Aguero, Bergkamp, Suarez, RVP all in their primes.

Who's Van Dijk realistically had to go up against at Liverpool? Kane? An old Aguero? 

You're proving my point. 

You've listed strikers that span a good 10-12 years. The fact Terry managed to play & win against all of them means he was at the top level during that same period.

Van Dijk only has Haaland & Kane but these are 2 strikers who have broken PL records. 

I know which one I want to captain my team.

8 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

You're proving my point. 

You've listed strikers that span a good 10-12 years. The fact Terry managed to play & win against all of them means he was at the top level during that same period.

Van Dijk only has Haaland & Kane but these are 2 strikers who have broken PL records. 

This is why, in my opinion, VVD has never reached the playing levels Terry or Rio got to. 

Not sure if this ever got posted on here ?

It's from 9 months ago.

I'm a bit meh when it comes to Simon Jordan, but this is well worth a listen, and especially so for what JT says about how the standards at the club took a quantum leap when Roman took over.

 

BlueCo take note please !!!! 

 

As the song says Simply the Best.

JT would put his face where van dyke would never, where most dykes would never. how we could do with him now😔

God I loved this man.... a true captain. a true leader. a genuine legend, and the best defender we ever had....

14 hours ago, C3blue said:

JT would put his face where van dyke would never, where most dykes would never. how we could do with him now😔

Van D never went down on Wayne Bridges Mrs?

He need to crack on becoming a manager, maybe he could have a crack at Strasbourg job one day?

I’m still disappointed Frank Lampard didn’t take on John Terry as his assistant while here, that would have been glorious.

1 hour ago, dansubrosa said:

He need to crack on becoming a manager, maybe he could have a crack at Strasbourg job one day?

I’m still disappointed Frank Lampard didn’t take on John Terry as his assistant while here, that would have been glorious.

Yeah never quite understood what happened with JT. He left Villa to pursue management opportunities but then never progressed. Obviously opportunities are hard to come by but you would think he would have enough contacts in the game. Frank got a helping hand by unlace Harry.

I just wonder whether JT’s reputation went against him?

15 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Yeah never quite understood what happened with JT. He left Villa to pursue management opportunities but then never progressed. Obviously opportunities are hard to come by but you would think he would have enough contacts in the game. Frank got a helping hand by unlace Harry.

I just wonder whether JT’s reputation went against him?

He said he enjoyed working as the club's academy consultant as it allows him to spend time with his family. I would imagine once his kids get older he'll try and step into management.

Georgie and Summer turn 19 in 4 days.

4 hours ago, JM7 said:

Yeah never quite understood what happened with JT. He left Villa to pursue management opportunities but then never progressed. Obviously opportunities are hard to come by but you would think he would have enough contacts in the game. Frank got a helping hand by unlace Harry.

I just wonder whether JT’s reputation went against him?

His reputation was harsh as well, him and Bridges Mrs have always denied anything happened where as Giggs shagged his brothers Mrs for over 10 yrs and gets the Wales job.

Anton Ferdinand was full of sh*t.

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4 hours ago, JM7 said:

I just wonder whether JT’s reputation went against him?

He said a while ago he'd applied for lots of things, including quite lower league, but just wasn't getting hired.

4 hours ago, Zeta said:

He said a while ago he'd applied for lots of things, including quite lower league, but just wasn't getting hired.

Never forgiven for being picked ahead of Saint Steven as England captain.

11 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

I’m still disappointed Frank Lampard didn’t take on John Terry as his assistant while here, that would have been glorious.

Lampard explained this on Obi Mikel's podcast last year.

One was a problem of timing, after Potter the owners only gave Lampard 3 days to get his team together so he took his team from Everton + Ashley Cole on set pieces. Terry was considering an offer from Leiceister (which he took anyway).

In the same interview Lampard praises Terry for his work in the dressing room but isn't sure how he would go as a #2. He thinks Terry should be out there managing himself.

Also another interesting tidbit from the interview was Lampard saying he had to work hard on his long passing, because of the different standards in quality between West Ham and Chelsea. He said he felt embarassed at first because guys like Jody Morris, John Terry and Eidur Gudjohnsen were able to ping a 60-yard pass with either foot, whereas he could barely do that with his right! He talks about the mentoring they had from Desailly and co and then both he and Mikel pointed out the lack of that knowledge transfer in the current Chelsea setup.

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I absolutely loved watching these two play together, I really feel like Ivanovic doesn’t get enough appreciation. IMO he was one of the best right backs we’ve ever had. He was just… sheer power.

7 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

I absolutely loved watching these two play together, I really feel like Ivanovic doesn’t get enough appreciation. IMO he was one of the best right backs we’ve ever had. He was just… sheer power.

He’s the best

BBC Sport

Wayne Rooney: Defenders now not as good as in my day

Wayne Rooney says the current crop of defenders are not as good as they were in his day - and rates the top five best he played against.

Names JT and Riccy Carvalho in his top five opposition defenders. Also recognises JT's often-overlooked skill with both feet.