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£50m is a lot of money when compared to what we paid for Hazard and Costa, but not when compared to dozens of other players we have brought in.

 

Pro's:

English

Young

Londoner

Right wing, with Hazard attracting so much attention down the left, we need someone who can take advantage down our under performing right wing,he fits the profile.

Dippers would waste the money we give them.

 

Cons:

Cost ££

Attitude (maybe) - but with Jose as gaffer, Sterling would be under no pretences as to what would be expected from him at this club.



Posted

how can he be worth 30, 40, 50 or even 20 million?

 

he had 1 good season before last at the dippers, Suarez made them all look good

 

last year he was nowhere near as good 

 

dippers want 200%- 300% of his true value just to play hard ball with the world

 

so No not for 50 million

Shaw, a young left back, had one good season at a midtable club and went for 30 million.

 

Sterling, a young attacking midfielder, has had one and a half good seasons for the team that came in 2nd and 6th. That's how he's worth more than 30 million.

 

50 million is preposterous, yes, but you're worth whatever teams are willing to pay for you, and when it comes to young English internationals, teams in the PL are willing to pay a stupid amount of money. I'm not saying it's right or healthy or reflective of their current "true" value, but in the cases of teenagers (or thereabouts) like Shaw & Sterling, you're paying the English tax and the potential tax. That's a lot of tax.

 

I figure he'll end up going to City for around 43-45 million, unless we make a bid to drive the price up even further.

Posted

Also, re: "Sterling has had one good season" - This isn't true though. The bollocks some people (mostly bitter Liverpool fans, online and in the media) are now peddling that he was sh*t all of this season is just that - bollocks. He carried a woefully out of sync Liverpool side through the first half of the season whilst playing out of position. All this while Gerrard and Mignolet were over the top parodies of themselves, Strurridge was sturridging on the injury table, and current Liverpool darling Coutinho was nowhere to be seen. Their good mid-season run was based on moving him up top, a position he'd never played in before. He's been shifted around to practically every available position outside of GK or CB since and has had to deal with the wrath of the fans and the media for his temerity to want to play for a better team. How well do you think even someone like Hazard would've done in a situation like that? How good do you think he'd have been playing as a striker and wing-back in his 2nd full season in the Premier League? Of course, Hazard is miles better, but my point is that Sterling was put in an almost impossible position to succeed, and guess what, eventually he didn't. Maybe that's part of why he wants to leave.

 

His game has serious flaws (atrocious finisher), but those can be worked on. And maybe, just like with Suarez, he'll look better with better players around him. As far as whether he's a "Mourinho player", contrary to the general perception, he (usually) works extremely hard without the ball. I'd be okay with us paying 40 million to have him here. It would be a risk, but I think it's a risk worth taking, especially if the other option is Douglas Costa at 27 million.



Posted

Made the arguments elsewhere but I'd be happy to get him for around £35 million. The one bargaining advantage we might have is that Rodgers likes young players so maybe we could tempt him with a few on loan. I know there have been rumblings about Christensen and they had Moses for a season too, so maybe something can be worked out.

 

As for Sterling, he's a great young player with the potential to be even better. He's direct, he creates things and he's got an eye for goal. He's also been used as a wing-back and is young enough to be moulded by Jose. Statistically he was better last season in a worse team, but he was also played in more than half-a-dozen positions which means he struggled for consistency.

 

I'd be amazed if we weren't monitoring the situation and if he wants to move back to London then that's got to be an advantage for us.

Posted

I'd go for him. Not at 50m but given current transfer fees and the interest he generates, he's easily worth 35-40m. He's young, English, one of the best in the league already, has a huge upside and a serious resale value. It would be stupid not to at least inquire.

Posted

The true question is would we fork out 27m for Douglas Costa who we just don't know how he will cope in a physical league

 

Or alternatively 35m+ on Sterling a tried and tested English player who most likely will do well and will have greater resale value.

 

I think what people need to look at is what sort of resale value will he have 5 years (When he is 25 and entering his prime) down the line if he continues to develop and progress, he is already on the radar of the Europes elite and if we do not make the money back (Or profit) 3-5 years down the line with the potential he has than Mourinho is not doing his job properly.



Posted

The true question is would we fork out 27m for Douglas Costa who we just don't know how he will cope in a physical league

 

Or alternatively 35m+ on Sterling a tried and tested English player who most likely will do well and will have greater resale value.

 

I think what people need to look at is what sort of resale value will he have 5 years (When he is 25 and entering his prime) down the line if he continues to develop and progress, he is already on the radar of the Europes elite and if we do not make the money back (Or profit) 3-5 years down the line with the potential he has than Mourinho is not doing his job properly.

 

If the alternative is Douglas Costa for £27mil, then I would pay £50mil for Sterling :P

Posted

Good, at least that would please Jose! Yep, 30m would be for me the max, 20-25 ideal. You reckon Liverpool would want Salah? Or even if we'd want to include him in the deal?

You're fantasizing if you think one of England's most hyped up young talents will go for 20-25 mil, especially from a rival if we get him for 40 it will be considered a bargain, not by me, but in context



Posted

Shaw, a young left back, had one good season at a midtable club and went for 30 million.

 

Sterling, a young attacking midfielder, has had one and a half good seasons for the team that came in 2nd and 6th. That's how he's worth more than 30 million.

 

50 million is preposterous, yes, but you're worth whatever teams are willing to pay for you, and when it comes to young English internationals, teams in the PL are willing to pay a stupid amount of money. I'm not saying it's right or healthy or reflective of their current "true" value, but in the cases of teenagers (or thereabouts) like Shaw & Sterling, you're paying the English tax and the potential tax. That's a lot of tax.

 

I figure he'll end up going to City for around 43-45 million, unless we make a bid to drive the price up even further.

 

Or do what we've done a few times recently. Let City set the price, swoop in at the last minute and match the figure. Done. Obviously the club will suss out before the bid whether or not he'd choose us over City.

Posted (edited)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33161310

 

Manchester City have made an increased offer of £35.5m for Raheem Sterling, which is likely to be rejected by Liverpool.
The Reds value the 20-year-old England international, who has also been linked with Arsenal and Real Madrid, at £50m.
Last week Liverpool turned down a bid of £25m, plus add-ons, from City.
Sterling joined Liverpool from QPR in 2010 and is under contract until 2017, but has rejected the offer of a new £100,000-a-week deal.
It is understood the new offer is a basic £35.5m, which could rise to nearer £40m when various extras are added.
 
Some reporting it's a final offer but sounds unlikely. City have increased their offer by £10 million in the space of about a week which is a bit desperate, but probably prices us out immediately unless we can do something involving loan players. All gone quiet on the part of his agent too.
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Posted

Looking like it's just a case of Liverpool and City settling on fee. 

 

City are being quite aggressive in their pursuit and in truth I cannot see anyone matching their ambition to sign him. 

Posted

Both will want it done ASAP for different reasons.

I'd like him here but for that figure you could get a Greizmann who I rate vastly superior to Sterling at the moment.

The advantages with Sterling is he is English, knows the EPL and has bag of potential on top of his current talent.



Posted

Taking QPR's 20% cut into account, I'd reject that out of hand. Liverpool will pocket about £28m for a player they're demanding 50m for... shocking deal for them.

 

I think until Sterling puts in a transfer request, Arsenal and Chelsea wont enter the race/bid

Posted

If we hadn't thrown £30m at Cuadrado then the £40-50m price tag might not have looked too bad, but he's obviously going to play down the right if we did buy him so what was the point in Cuadrado?  

 

Where Liverpool interested in Cuadrado? Could be a swap on the cards?  thats the only way we would be able to compete with City we aren't going to outbid them.  Unless he is set on going back to London.

 

Does £25-30million plus Cuadrado looks more appealing?

Posted (edited)

If we hadn't thrown £30m at Cuadrado then the £40-50m price tag might not have looked too bad, but he's obviously going to play down the right if we did buy him so what was the point in Cuadrado?

Where Liverpool interested in Cuadrado? Could be a swap on the cards? thats the only way we would be able to compete with City we aren't going to outbid them. Unless he is set on going back to London.

Does £25-30million plus Cuadrado looks more appealing?

Not if Cuadrado doesn't want to go there and if Jose doesn't want to sell.

As it's been said before swap deals rarely happen these days.

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Posted

Not if Cuadrado doesn't want to go there and if Jose doesn't want to sell.

As it's been said before swap deals rarely happen these days.

 

 

Just speculating.  Just thinking we'd have Hazard, Willian, Cuadrao, Salah then Sterling as wingers seems one is set to leave most likely Salah.  That make me think Liverpool wanted Salah before we signed him that could be a swap thats more possible, I know swaps don't happen often and only if both players what the move which could be true in this case.


Posted (edited)

if man sh*tty bid £50m I will laugh my nipples off tbh.

 

couple of notes:

 

-If sterling is worth £50m then cech is worth at least £25m

 

-The falcao deal even if he breaks both legs will look like amazing business in comparison!

 

£50m for sterling, that is honestly one of the most ridiculous things in football ive ever seen, even if qpr have 25% sell on fee.

 

hazard was £30M, Aguero was £10M less and Silva even fab and costa were miles less, man city are truely a joke club 

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Posted

if man sh*tty bid £50m I will laugh my nipples off tbh.

 

couple of notes:

 

-If sterling is worth £50m then cech is worth at least £25m

 

-The falcao deal even if he breaks both legs will look like amazing business in comparison!

 

£50m for sterling, that is honestly one of the most ridiculous things in football ive ever seen, even if qpr have 25% sell on fee.

 

hazard was £30M, Aguero was £10M less and Silva even fab and costa were miles less, man city are truely a joke club 

 

Yeah, we've never massively overpaid for a player before....

Posted

if man sh*tty bid £50m I will laugh my nipples off tbh.

 

couple of notes:

 

-If sterling is worth £50m then cech is worth at least £25m

 

-The falcao deal even if he breaks both legs will look like amazing business in comparison!

 

£50m for sterling, that is honestly one of the most ridiculous things in football ive ever seen, even if qpr have 25% sell on fee.

 

hazard was £30M, Aguero was £10M less and Silva even fab and costa were miles less, man city are truely a joke club 

 

I think they're just really desperate for somebody homegrown; I saw an article the other day that said they need to sign 5 homegrown players in this transfer window.

 

I rate Sterling very highly but £50 million is insane.



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