33 minutes ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Everyone knew this is coming, still people got upset about club official statement. They could have put 100 thanks and you welcome in there, still doesn't change the nature of the statement and people will still be 'outraged' by it. He got paid in full for the year to pursue his interest, will get another job next year, I'm sure he rather get pad in full than a bunch of thanks on twitter.

I can only speak for myself but I think the way he handled himself in the last few months was a disgrace and we should have easily qualified for the CL. If he would have handled himself with a bit of class he would have probably still been in a job. It’s the same way he went out of Juve and fell out with Agneli and apparently he’s not welcome back. The fact a lot of players are glad to see him go tells you what type of person he is. 

@Sindre They guessed at it,yes.  But then we were all doing that, and have been doing it for the last 6 months (maybe not quite that long).  My point has always been that anyone can keep making guesses (educated or otherwise), and eventually real life catches up with the guesswork and someone is then a genius for breaking a story. 

If it suits us, we conveniently  forget that the same person has been saying "it's happening today/this evening/tomorrow/in the next 48 hours" for weeks and weeks and getting it wrong, and then eventually it happens.  That's not  knowing or being an insider, that's just punting stuff and getting lucky.

Edited July 13, 20188 yr by yorkleyblue

Not official for me until the title of this topic changes. Just saying. 

As strange as it sounds, Conte turned out to be the third longest serving manager in the Roman era.

1. Jose Mourinho (1) = June 2004 - September 2007 = 3.30 Years
2. Jose Mourinho (2) = June 2013 - December 2015 = 2.54 Years
3. Antonio Conte = July 2016 - July 2018 = 2.03 Years
4. Carlo Ancelotti = June 2009 - May 2011 = 1.98 Years
5. Claudio Ranieri = July 2003 - May 2004 = 0.89 Years
6. Roberto Di Matteo = March 2012 - November 2012 = 0.72 Years
7. Andre Villas Boas = June 2011 - March 2012 = 0.70 Years
8. Avram Grant = September 2007 - May 2008 = 0.67 Years
9. Luis Felipe Scolari = July 2008 - February 2009 = 0.61 Years
10. Rafael Benitez = November 2012 - May 2013 = 0.51 Years
11. Guus Hiddink (2) = December 2015 - May 2016 = 0.39 Years
12. Guus Hiddink (1) = February 2009 - May 2009 = 0.28 Years

Edited July 13, 20188 yr by Jezz

2 minutes ago, Jezz said:

As strange as it sounds, Conte turned out to be the third longest serving manager in the Roman era.

1. Jose Mourinho (1) = June 2004 - September 2007 = 3.30 Years
2. Jose Mourinho (2) = June 2013 - December 2015 = 2.54 Years
3. Antonio Conte = July 2016 - July 2018 = 2.03 Years
4. Carlo Ancelotti = June 2009 - May 2011 = 1.98 Years
5. Claudio Ranieri = July 2003 - July 2004 = 1.00 Years
6. Roberto Di Matteo = March 2012 - November 2012 = 0.72 Years
7. Andre Villas Boas = June 2011 - March 2012 = 0.70 Years
8. Avram Grant = September 2007 - May 2008 = 0.67 Years
9. Luis Felipe Scolari = July 2008 - February 2009 = 0.61 Years
10. Rafael Benitez = November 2012 - May 2013 = 0.51 Years
11. Guus Hiddink (2) = December 2015 - May 2016 = 0.39 Years
12. Guus Hiddink (1) = February 2009 - May 2009 = 0.28 Years

Benitez' "era" sure felt the longest. 

My Tribute

  Thank you 'Don' antonio for the first season with us, you made the rest of the PL adapt and play catchup, you're impeccably suited self bestrode the touchline like some modern day 'Roman' (pun intended) General, garnering you're troops to fabulous victories, standout Utd at the Bridge and Jose getting all flustered, unfortunately you properly upset little costa which ultimately cost you your Job, anyways thanks immensely for another PL trophy and FA Cup, you won't quickly be forgotten, now back to italy ya little Rascal

 

Martin

Media are saying that it is a short statement because of the legal ongoings. For those criticising the club, it’s actually very wise from them. They cannot be giving too much away and even written statement could be used against them. 

Matt Law confirmed there are ongoing legal negotiations so the short statement is totally appropriate from the club. 

2 hours ago, Giordano_Bruno said:

there we go, glad we finally got to the point where you feel so incapable to argue that the the peasant in yourself showed up.

Let me educate you with one scheme . People used to accept that for centuries but it looks like someone is milking cows for leaving in the deep country.

Owner > CEO > managers > employees. Even bellow the manager, the employees have earned the right to complain, strike and even change the course of the enterprise. Especially in existence of abuse of power. the I told you, buy a history book.

you said this "Of course players should be in charge." then type that hierarchy? so either a wum or an idiot.

36 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

@Sindre They guessed at it,yes.  But then we were all doing that, and have been doing it for the last 6 months (maybe not quite that long).  My point has always been that anyone can keep making guesses (educated or otherwise), and eventually real life catches up with the guesswork and someone is then a genius for breaking a story. 

If it suits us, we conveniently  forget that the same person has been saying "it's happening today/this evening/tomorrow/in the next 48 hours" for weeks and weeks and getting it wrong, and then eventually it happens.  That's not  knowing or being an insider, that's just punting stuff and getting lucky.

They also "guessed" on twitter that we were getting Enrique, Rodgers (shudders), some other Italian bloke, a Spaniard, a chillian (is that a word?) and all kinds of managers. 

1 hour ago, the special one said:

Now that it's official... cheeky bid for Diego Costa?

forwards not backwards.

51 minutes ago, Jezz said:

Thank you, Antonio.

One of the few managers in our club's history that leaves with a Premier League title next to his name. Despite a tough season, we still attained an FA Cup trophy at the end of it which gives us some comfort.

After the nightmare 2015/2016 season of finishing 10th and sacking Jose Mourinho, he restored pride and passion back to the club within a single season and won us a title which I regard as our most memorable since the 2004/2005 season. That's something I won't forget in a hurry.

He was entitled to a classier and dignified send off and the club's official statement is terribly short. It heavily demonstrates how badly the relationship broke down between the respective parties.

I wish him well for the future and hopefully one day when the dust settles, he can look back at his time with us and recall having some fond memories. I'd like to think recent events don't leave a completely bitter taste in his mouth in the long-term.

A sad day, but a new day for the club as it moves forward and picks up the pieces.

Excellent post, there has obviously been a complete breakdown in relationship and trust between the Board and manager, and we simply dont know the reason behind this. So any speculation is just that, speculation, which means no one can really start apportioning blame as yet.  But obviously people will, because.. you know.. everything in football is just so black and white to certain "fans".

48 minutes ago, Sindre said:

But you have to admit Twitter-journos broke the news of Conte's sacking before anyone else and also Jorginho and Sarri coming 

A broken clock is right twice a day.

39 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Media are saying that it is a short statement because of the legal ongoings. For those criticising the club, it’s actually very wise from them. They cannot be giving too much away and even written statement could be used against them. 

Matt Law confirmed there are ongoing legal negotiations so the short statement is totally appropriate from the club. 

That is why AC probably took training this week so can not be sued for breach of contract easily.

A sad state of affairs.

New topic title needed?

Glad to see he's gone, he was great for us in winning the league but I think his heart was no longer in it.

Antonio Conte, 3 at the back, 2 in the cabinet, 1 of our own.

 

I hope this story about the compensation isn't true. If so our pettiness knows no bounds. I was livid at the way Carlo was sacked. This would nearly be worse.

Page after page after page of this bickering, two sides to the theories and who's fault. Its either the manager or the board. Now we've got this forum split and bickering.

Time to move on.

1 hour ago, coco said:

A broken clock is right twice a day.

I quite like " the sun even shines on a dogs arse sometimes" 

8 hours ago, EdinburghBlue said:

Come on mate, we’re a football club. We should be able to rise above petty tit for tat surely?! It’s not really hard to release a statement ‘chelsea FC would like to announce we have parted ways with Antonio Conte. We wish to thank him for the trophies won in the previous two seasons, but we feel the club is in need of a change... blah blah blah’ or something.

 

Just looking for us to show a bit of class, shouldn’t be that unreasonable for a club of our size. Irrelevant of how it ended, he won us two trophies in two years. 

 

We sacked Carlo in the tunnel FS. Our club is shocking at the way it handles getting ride of managers and personally I feel we have enough experience we should be better!

I agree the way we sacked Carlo was pretty bad (not the fact it happened though).

If half of those stories are true then i'm sorry i have no sympathy for Conte whatsoever, he's paid £9m a year to be professional and do the best with what he has and last season he not only didn't go close to achieving it (get the best out of what he had), he acted like a juvenile school kid. Respect works both ways, and he has shown us none whatsoever ever since pre season last summer.

Despite all that i still thank him for the 16/17 season, but i'm just simply not getting on the train of him being a victim in all of this sorry.

Conte doesn't deserve a penny. He would be the first to claim constructive dismissal against the club. Well what's the opposite of constructive dismissal? He's dismissed himself basically. You can't slag off your board at every opportunity, you can't slag off transfer policy. There are things which have to remain in-house. Instead he's said every decision was made by the club and had nothing to do with him. He did this several times. He was petulant and spoilt. He didn't get Van Dijk, Lukaku, Sandro, Sanchez. These guys were beyond our means, weren't for sale, or didn't want to come to us. He couldn't accept that. You can throw in Koulibaly as well. I don't see any other manager slagging off their board. Many other managers, including Wenger, Klopp and Pochettino had to sell their star players. Conte was unprofessional and left the club with no choice but to sack him, a club that was paying him 9 million a year or whatever. Well when the club leave you with no choice but to leave it's constructive dismissal and they have to pay for that. In this case he left the club with no choice but to ditch him and I'm afraid that should hit him in his pocket. I'm glad the club are taking a tough stance and I'm glad there was no bullsh*t in their statement. See ya later Conte. The first season was great. Your second season you were an absolute disgrace. You've got your wish. You didn't want to be here, you made that clear as day. Well now the club have got their wish and they're rid of the bad stench.

The brevity of the official Club statement speaks volumes. Suggests legal action may be looming in the future. Least said etc....

 

Chelsea Football Club and Antonio Conte have parted company.

During Antonio’s time at the club, we won our sixth league title and eighth FA Cup. In the title winning season, the club set a then-record 30 wins in a 38-game Premier League season, as well as a club-record 13 consecutive league victories.

We wish Antonio every success in his future career.

Edited July 13, 20188 yr by fitz

6 minutes ago, fitz said:

Suggests legal action may be looming in the future. Least said etc....

Legal action has already started according to a bunch of people.

16 minutes ago, Sindre said:

Legal action has already started according to a bunch of people.

The only articles referring to legal action involving the club and Conte since March this year are both saying that Conte is considering legal action against the club, rather than the wild and ridiculous theories punted by some in here that the club will be suing Conte for not being nice.

1 minute ago, yorkleyblue said:

The only articles referring to legal action involving the club and Conte since March this year are both saying that Conte is considering legal action against the club, rather than the wild and ridiculous theories punted by some in here that the club will be suing Conte for not being nice.

Yes, that's the reports i'm thinking about as well. They club is refusing to give Conte his compensation and Conte are of course taking action against that.

8 hours ago, EdinburghBlue said:

Call witnesses? If it’s in his contract, it’s there in black and white. I’m sure Conte has most of his back room staff as witnesses as well. There’s also many a case for Costa acting like a clown in his entire time with us. 

 

REPORTS So these are all what? Rumours? From a journalist who is close to the club? I don’t think he’s in the changing rooms when club matters are going out. I don’t mean to sounds like @yorkleyblue but I don’t believe he has inside knowledge on the club whether good or bad. They all get things just as much wrong as they do right, people just forget everything the got wrong as soon as they’re close to getting something accurate.

 

As I said before, no need for us to carry this conversation on, we won’t agree. The club has treated another trophy winning manager like sh**e, same old, same old.

Fair enough. And I think the nature of the club's statement supports the stories that have been coming out. The closest thing to "you can f**k off now" we've ever seen Chelsea release for an outgoing manager.

 

6 hours ago, yorkleyblue said:

And his contract (as all employment contracts) will have a defined disciplinary procedure, and if the Costa text actually happened, that would have been dealt with under that procedure 18 months ago, or would have been deemed at that time not to be a disciplinary matter.  Any court would refuse to even hear a case from the club for breaking a contract based on that.

There may well be many, many reasons why Conte can be sacked without his contractual entitlement, none of which we have any information about, but something done 18 months ago is not one of them.

You don't know that. And you don't know if the penalty for such a behaviour according to his contract was termination. Btw, you don't believe the Costa text happened? You think the media are making that up? Even Costa has finally come out to confirm it himself. 

And that is specifically my point - no, I don't know and neither do you or anyone else outside of the club and Conte. 

You honestly think that a professional football club would have contracts and terms and conditions of employment that DON'T include a defined disciplinary procedure? 

If the Costa text happened as was reported, and that was, in what appears to  be your current opinion, reason to both sack Conte and break your contractual obligations to pay his contract off, then he would have been sacked at the time with no pay-off.  That didn't happen then and most likely has nothing to do with what is going on now.

You shouldn't let your hatred of Conte and your disappointment at the last season affect your attempts at rational judgement.

A person taking an employer to an industrial tribunal for unfair dismissal  facing an employers defence of "he did something wrong 18 months ago, but we didn't think it required punishment then, but now we've changed our minds because we've found someone to replace him" would be cheering loudly and his counsel would be writing "slam-dunk" on the case files.