2 hours ago, Skinnedy said:

It's always a guess, but January of 2020 is a very realistic timeline. 

Realistic guessing is how Twitter knowitalls and tabloid hacks make a living. The only guesses I’m interested in are those of the club doctors.

9 hours ago, Skinnedy said:

It's always a guess, but January of 2020 is a very realistic timeline. 

It’s worth baring in mind that we do have a terrific medical team if the past is anything to go on. It’s very rare that we get players out for prolonged periods of time and even when we do, they tend to recover faster than you’d expect. I’d hope he’ll be back before next year. 

15 hours ago, ekimozturk said:

Do you think he will fully recover? I guess him being so young is a big advantage

He may very well fully recover.  It depends on where it ruptured, and how well the surgeon could re-attach.  It my case, it ruptured in a spot where attachment had to made where the tendon wasn't as strong.

The more difficult thing to come back from may be the mental part of it.  This isn't a contact injury.  It doesn't happen like a hamstring while running, or because of a bad tackle.  You take a small step and SNAP.  It goes.  I was just getting up from making a save and mine snapped.  So it will be in the back of your mind that it could happen again at any time with no contact or no warning.

Gutted about his injury. 

I'm going to feel pretty short changes as a fan though, if we rehabilitate him over the next 6 months, only for him to sign a pre contract with Bayern and leave on a free. 

I cant see him signing anything until after the summer, but you would hope he would have had enough of a taste to want to commit to us for the next 3/4 years. Even if it doesnt work out as he wants, he could engineer a move when he is 21/22. 

Sarri reckons 3 months. Wow..

On 23/04/2019 at 16:28, Remodez said:

I just hope the same thing that happened to Zouma and van Ginkel doesn't happen to him.

This is exactly what I thought... How f**king unlucky do we get with young players, Van Ginkel and Zouma looked very very talented at such young ages and both of them had career changing injuries. 

An achilles tendon rupture is a particularly nasty injury.  In my experience, and in seeing some athletes suffer this injury here in the USA, it tales a long time to come back fully from it.  According to an article on the  website for a medical magazine called Lower Extremity Review:

"Many authors have looked at the effect of an Achilles tendon rupture on professional athletes in various sports. Parekh et al assessed the epidemiology and outcomes of Achilles ruptures in the National Football League (NFL), retrospectively reviewing 31 such injuries over a five-year period (1997-2002).⁷ In this cohort, only 68% of athletes were able to return to the sport, and those that did generally returned at a lower level of efficacy compared with preinjury.

Another study used the NFL Orthopaedic Surgery Outcomes Database to assess all injuries, treated both surgically and nonsurgically, over a 10-year period (2003-2013).⁸ Achilles tendon repair, along with patellar tendon repair, led to significantly fewer games played than other surgeries. Moreover, Achilles repair, along with ACL reconstruction, patellar tendon repair, and tibia intramedullary nailing, were associated with significant decreases in performance in the first year after injury, though the Achilles repair patients returned to preinjury performance levels in the second and third year postinjury.

Finally, Jack et al most recently and comprehensively assessed Achilles ruptures in the NFL using data on 95 players.⁹ Seventy-one players were able to return to competition (72.4%); a player’s ability to return to a certain level of performance depended in large part on the player’s position.

Achilles ruptures have been assessed in other sports, as well. Amin et al assessed 18 players from the National Basketball Association (NBA) who had Achilles ruptures over a 23-year period (1988-2011).¹⁰ The injuries had a profound negative impact on the athletes, as 39% were unable to return to competition, and those who did return had a significant decrease in both playing time and performance. Further data suggest Achilles tendon repair is associated with the lowest RTP rates among NBA players of any orthopedic surgical procedure.¹¹

Other authors have assessed Achilles ruptures in Major League Baseball (MLB).¹² Given the nature of the sport, the incidence of Achilles rupture is significantly lower than in sports such as basketball and football, which require frequent eccentric contractures. However, only 62% of MLB position players who sustained Achilles tendon ruptures were able to return to play.

A few studies from Europe have assessed athletes from other sports. Maffulli et al compiled data on 17 elite athletes from sports as diverse as badminton and martial arts, though most were soccer players.¹³ All athletes were able to return to competition after Achilles rupture, but one was not able to compete at the same level as before the injury. The authors did not assess performance capacity objectively; RTP was ultimately a binary variable. Additional research has found that Achilles ruptures are relatively uncommon in soccer, a somewhat unexpected finding, though there are limited data on postinjury performance in these patients.¹⁴

Synthesizing much of these data, Trofa et al assessed the major professional sports in the US for Achilles ruptures over a 24-year period.¹⁵ Only established professional athletes were included, and control players were used to assess the injury’s effect on the player’s career trajectory. Only 70% of athletes were able to return to play; those who did return to play did so at a lower level than matched controls one year after injury, but their level of play normalized relative to controls two years after injury."

 

 

Just to offer a bit more perspective:  A player for the NFL's Oakland Raiders tore an Achilles tendon during a team workout this week.  He has been ruled out for the entire upcoming NFL season.  That's about 9 months...….

Isn't an Achilles tear more serious than Achilles rupture?

1 hour ago, robdog said:

Isn't an Achilles tear more serious than Achilles rupture?

I think they're talking about the same thing. 

But typically a full tear or rupture is described as looking like a frayed rope. 

It's a m#$_erf$&_er of an injury. 

I don't remember it happening to anyone as young as Hudson-Odoi. It puts a lot of 30 something NBA stars on the shelf for good. 

18 minutes ago, Skinnedy said:

I think they're talking about the same thing. 

But typically a full tear or rupture is described as looking like a frayed rope. 

It's a m#$_erf$&_er of an injury. 

I don't remember it happening to anyone as young as Hudson-Odoi. It puts a lot of 30 something NBA stars on the shelf for good. 

I found this definition on Goggle:

Ruptures and tears are actually the same, however tears can be complete or partial tears. For example, one of the most common sports injuries for professionals and amateurs is a ligament tear in your knee. ... Too much pressure on these ligaments or any ligament can cause it to stretch too far or even snap

Wonder if he plays for us again before penning his pre contract with Bayern.

3 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Wonder if he plays for us again before penning his pre contract with Bayern.

I think any club that signs him will be taking a massive gamble. Theres no guarantee he comes back from this at the same level. He'd be wise to sign an extension with us this summer. 

 

He was sat in that little glass box thing in the corner of the shed during the match. 

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/remember-the-name-callum-hudson-odoi-chelsea

 

Great read!

20 hours ago, abramovich said:

 

Will any of them be with us next season……?

5 minutes ago, Boston Blue said:

Will any of them be with us next season……?

Well CHO will be. It's the season after that is the question mark. 

1 hour ago, DidierDrogbalala said:

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/remember-the-name-callum-hudson-odoi-chelsea

 

Great read!

It is a good read.  But of all the things he talks about, Chelsea isn't one of them...…….

15 hours ago, Boston Blue said:

It is a good read.  But of all the things he talks about, Chelsea isn't one of them...…….

Can't blame him, his mum's jollof rice sounds legendary. Everything else takes a back seat...

It pains me to say it, but I don't think CHO will be at Chelsea long-term. He seems like the type of guy who is more driven by personal success than the success of Chelsea. I really hope that I'm wrong though. He seems more of a Sterling/Ronaldo type personality than a Terry/Messi/Maldini type. It sounds like he's already got quite a large team/entourage behind him who are advising him on his career path. He mentions the support of his family a lot (understandable), but I've never once heard him mention his love and appreciation for Chelsea. Or even being a Chelsea fan. This is in comparison to the likes of Ruben Loftus-Cheek and Reece James who never hold back in speaking of their support for Chelsea. I do really hope I'm wrong because he's a brilliant talent.

14 minutes ago, DannyVblue said:

It pains me to say it, but I don't think CHO will be at Chelsea long-term. He seems like the type of guy who is more driven by personal success than the success of Chelsea. I really hope that I'm wrong though. He seems more of a Sterling/Ronaldo type personality than a Terry/Messi/Maldini type. It sounds like he's already got quite a large team/entourage behind him who are advising him on his career path. He mentions the support of his family a lot (understandable), but I've never once heard him mention his love and appreciation for Chelsea. Or even being a Chelsea fan. This is in comparison to the likes of Ruben Loftus-Cheek and Reece James who never hold back in speaking of their support for Chelsea. I do really hope I'm wrong because he's a brilliant talent.

He would be a moron to not sign an extension this summer. Then I suspect he won't ever sign an extension again for us for the reasons you suggest. 

I doubt any club will pick him up next January that would be better than staying at Chelsea. 

18 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

He would be a moron to not sign an extension this summer. Then I suspect he won't ever sign an extension again for us for the reasons you suggest. 

I doubt any club will pick him up next January that would be better than staying at Chelsea. 

Bayern

If he left us without any serious game time I would have been really pissed off but if he goes now after chances in cup semi's, finals and a big game at Anfield amoung other times (not to mention the unwavering support he gets from the terraces and freedom to make mistakes and have bad games, something he won't get at Bayern) then I don't think Sarri or the club can be blamed as that would have meant he was always looking to leave anyway.

It's not the same as the KDB/Salah situation, that could have been easily avoided by playing them where the CHO situation doesn't appear to be as straightforward.

1 hour ago, DannyVblue said:

It pains me to say it, but I don't think CHO will be at Chelsea long-term. He seems like the type of guy who is more driven by personal success than the success of Chelsea. I really hope that I'm wrong though. He seems more of a Sterling/Ronaldo type personality than a Terry/Messi/Maldini type. It sounds like he's already got quite a large team/entourage behind him who are advising him on his career path. He mentions the support of his family a lot (understandable), but I've never once heard him mention his love and appreciation for Chelsea. Or even being a Chelsea fan. This is in comparison to the likes of Ruben Loftus-Cheek and Reece James who never hold back in speaking of their support for Chelsea. I do really hope I'm wrong because he's a brilliant talent.

Exactly.  He didn't seem to have any positive pride on a Chelsea experience.  He's been there a long time, developed there, won a lot at Chelsea youth level, made his first team debut, scored his first PL goal, has had the supporters singing his name...…..and still not a single mention of any of it.

Edited May 7, 20197 yr by Boston Blue