Tbf, Firmino's only had one great season at Liverpool. Currently averaging a goal every 4 games for Liverpool this season. Morata averaging 1 goal in 3.

Well, I will be happy if we replace Morata with Firmino. He might not score goals but I haven't seen any striker in Europe tight now with a better work rate. Take him away from that Liverpool team and Salah and Mane will struggle.

His first few months at the club he was brilliant. Unfortunately it's all gone downhill for him.

Right after we signed him and even when he was banging the goals those first few months, I still wasn't convinced he was the right signing after we missed out on Lukaku.

Can't we hire a psychologist to help him? Torres was the last bloke in Chelsea who was as fragile as Morata. 

We need to stop comparing Torres with Morata. Torres was a great player, even when things wasn't going his way, you can see from his face how bad he feels, eventually he worked harder to make things change. But Morata never care.

LOL you're joking right? He gave Anelka a good run for his money when it came to sulking, giving up and walking around.

You are talking about his early days with us right, well, have got lots of good memories about Torres when he was with us.

He was a great player at Bolton

His nickname was literally le sulk... And I'm not talking specifically about his Chelsea career, he definitely had his best career here and longest career here. Every other club he could barely last a season there. 

Funny! He didn't hid out on the wings, he was struggling to live to expectations as goal poacher and realized he was holding the team back by not scoring goals, so he was willing to drop back a bit to work hard for the team by setting up chances for others to score even if he can't score himself.
Now if Morata can do that, am willing to keep him for as long as possible.

Something something PTSD. 

There's a tendency to look back on the past with nostalgic rose-coloured glasses, so many Chelsea fans remember the Torres who scored against Barcelona, Shakhtar, Benfica and Bayern, rather than the utterly ineffective Torres who in the Premier League generally couldn't hit the side of a barn door and who too often hid out on the wing rather than getting into good scoring positions. 

7 minutes ago, wallosh said:

12 hours ago, Slojo said:

LOL you're joking right? He gave Anelka a good run for his money when it came to sulking, giving up and walking around.

You are talking about his early days with us right, well, have got lots of good memories about Torres when he was with us.

Sign Jermaine Beckford give him the same amount of chances and mollycoddling Torres got and he would score 1 in 5 with the odd good memory in there like Torres did. There's no defense for Torrres atall.

10 hours ago, Slojo said:

I really don't see how people can honestly say Torres was a trier, they must have missed all those games where he was sulking and giving up. 
 

Still can't get over him saying he left Chelsea because he didn't feel important, the self entitled clown wasted more chances than any other player would ever get.

First and hopefully last player i grow to dislike while he was wearing the Chelsea shirt, the sheer amount of excuses and mental gymnastics people still use for this guy is hilarious.

9 hours ago, wallosh said:

Funny! He didn't hid out on the wings, he was struggling to live to expectations as goal poacher and realized he was holding the team back by not scoring goals, so he was willing to drop back a bit to work hard for the team by setting up chances for others to score even if he can't score himself.
Now if Morata can do that, am willing to keep him for as long as possible.

On this point, I remember one game against Man City in 2013/14 when he was going after every ball - he wound up setting up Schurrle and getting the last-gasp winner after taking on Joe Hart and Demichelis. 

Problem is that he only occasionally showed that level of commitment. Most of the time he was a passenger. 

10 hours ago, wallosh said:

He was a great player at Bolton

The point wasn't that Anelka was a hack, it was that he lacked mental fortitude for most of his career. 

I dont know how and Why Anelka was bought into the discussion but Anelka for his price and contribution to Chelsea has done way more than Morata. I would rather have that Anelka right now than Morata.

We had one touch in the box after Morata came on, which was him losing the ball.

2 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

We had one touch in the box after Morata came on, which was him losing the ball.

Not suprising, the sky reporter said he had one of the most uninspired warm ups he had seen, hands in his pockets warm up.

 

He was very poor today.  Has to be on his way out.  NBCSN commentator over here said something like “Morata sees his first action after missing the past few matches with a knee injury”.  No, Sarri said he was left out for tactical reasons.

I don't care how, but hope he fcuks off next month and he never wears the chelsea shirt again...he's not only sh*t but his attitude stinks...

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Just now, mwblue10 said:

He was very poor today.  Has to be on his way out.  NBCSN commentator over here said something like “Morata sees his first action after missing the past few matches with a knee injury”.  No, Sarri said he was left out for tactical reasons.

I assume that 'tactical reasons' is a euphemism for 'shocking form' then?

From loving the idea of him coming here to now wanting rid ASAP.

His attitude and commitment are a disgrace and he’s just sulking about putting in the bare minimum.

We need to ship him out now so we can recoup some money we wasted on him.

 

I think he is just so frustrated that things have not gone as expected that he is just depressed; with all those misses its now in his head, he overthinks and tries too hard thereby creating failure.....for all concerned he needs to go elsewhere to get his head straight; whether it be on loan or permanent move will be up to the club. I think he does have the attributes of being a good striker, he has pace, can score with his head and feet but he is going through a terrible time in his career which only he can sort out.

Morata is the perfect example of just how crucial the mental aspect is in football. He has all the tools to be a top striker but can't seem to cope with the pressures.An on form Morata that we saw in October and first 2 month's last season is a real asset but his mentality means we won't get that version enough to be worth keeping.

Although that said a Morata who furfilled his potential would never have left Madrid so we wouldn't have benefited anyway.

Wrapped up on the bench like it was Siberia ffs.Weak in the challenge and a couple of poor touches.The performance of someone on his way out.

An utter donkey. Dreadful when he came on. Confidence shot, mentally weak and can't hit a barn door. 

He's surely off in January? 

24 minutes ago, CFCCAN said:

I think he is just so frustrated that things have not gone as expected that he is just depressed; with all those misses its now in his head, he overthinks and tries too hard thereby creating failure.....for all concerned he needs to go elsewhere to get his head straight; whether it be on loan or permanent move will be up to the club. I think he does have the attributes of being a good striker, he has pace, can score with his head and feet but he is going through a terrible time in his career which only he can sort out.

Depressed, mental block, bad attitude, there is a medical term for Morata's deficiency's, it's commonly known as f**king CRAP!!! 

On 16/12/2018 at 15:45, brownindian said:

I dont know how and Why Anelka was bought into the discussion but Anelka for his price and contribution to Chelsea has done way more than Morata. I would rather have that Anelka right now than Morata.

In truth we'd probably have today's Anelka over Morata.

I can´t see him anymore in our shirt. Sell him at any price, now.

It's not in the head, he's not quick enough, he's not good enough on the ball.

He worked well for a bit with Conte because all he had to do was sit up high and try to head a few in.  Does he even score the goal Kante scored today?