Can you just imagine if we win the FA Cup and sack Conte. I still think parting ways is probably for the best, but winning the FA Cup and then sacking Conte would be a strange mix of emotions. 

6 minutes ago, enigma said:

Can you just imagine if we win the FA Cup and sack Conte. I still think parting ways is probably for the best, but winning the FA Cup and then sacking Conte would be a strange mix of emotions. 

At this point I can't see Conte leaving us for another club. There don't seem to be that many obvious openings for him elsewhere. So no matter what happens at the weekend I assume will have to back him or sack him.

6 minutes ago, enigma said:

Can you just imagine if we win the FA Cup and sack Conte. I still think parting ways is probably for the best, but winning the FA Cup and then sacking Conte would be a strange mix of emotions. 

And we will get slaughtered in the media if that happens, even though the media have tried their best to stir the pot all season to get Conte sacked

4 minutes ago, Osgood is Good said:

And we will get slaughtered in the media if that happens, even though the media have tried their best to stir the pot all season to get Conte sacked

Yes they will. However, the season overall has been poor. Not making top four is a big deal and that will definitely be the black mark on Conte's resume despite any Cup win. The media will talk sh*t about us whether we win, lose, draw, sack a manager, keep a manager, so doesn't really matter anyhow I suppose. 

I don’t think we should sack him. 

Hopefully he will walk away, but if he doesn’t then keep him for another season and let his contract run out.

By that point he will be thinking there’s no point in sulking anymore, may as well give it his best shot to have better opportunities for next summer.

I would be crushed if conte was to leave. He’s the man for us but he needs backing and trust from the board just give him the players he wants!!

ive thought a lot about who we should go for if he left and personally I think Rodgers would be a good fit for us. Very surprising but he’s a Chelsea man and has good work ethic. Would blood some of our exceptional youngsters 

45 minutes ago, forbzy said:

At this point I can't see Conte leaving us for another club. There don't seem to be that many obvious openings for him elsewhere. So no matter what happens at the weekend I assume will have to back him or sack him.

Atm it seems that way. All of the big clubs are known which manager will they have next season, but it doesn't stop Conte to take a year off. Ancelotti, Guardiola did it before. And he can absolutely take a year off with the paycheck he's getting, if he's sacked.

We can't find a manager to replace the one we currently have who is going to step down but denies wanting to quit at every turn. We aren't willing to sack him either because either we don't want to pay him or can't find anyone to replace him. 

Why is this happening and how did it get like this? 

There's only one man for the job. The man Roman always wanted from his first moments at Chelsea. Now is the time. 

 

1 hour ago, Ledgerson said:

Atm it seems that way. All of the big clubs are known which manager will they have next season, but it doesn't stop Conte to take a year off. Ancelotti, Guardiola did it before. And he can absolutely take a year off with the paycheck he's getting, if he's sacked.

Absolutely. I would fully expect him to do that if he is shown the door. I was making that point as I don't see him leaving on his own free will. The club will have to pay him out if they want a replacement.

12 hours ago, w1llsy said:

I would be crushed if conte was to leave. He’s the man for us but he needs backing and trust from the board just give him the players he wants!!

ive thought a lot about who we should go for if he left and personally I think Rodgers would be a good fit for us. Very surprising but he’s a Chelsea man and has good work ethic. Would blood some of our exceptional youngsters 

Rodgers? Is that a wind up? f**k me dead.... Brenda Rodgers? The same one who starred in the Liverpool documentary? The same one that said Chelsea would be a backwards step in his career? The same one to who Chelsea loaned 3 players, and he let them all to rot without game time? The same one who bleaches his teeth ?

 

WUM!

Edited May 18, 20187 yr by nonotnowjim

11 hours ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

We aren't willing to sack him either because either we don't want to pay him or can't find anyone to replace him. 

OR WE ARE WAITING FOR THE SEASON TO END

Or do we think its a good idea to have no manager going into a cup final. Maybe give a guy 3 days to prepare the squad for it then if we lose sack him too.

 

17 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Rodgers? Is that a wind up? f**k me dead.... Brenda Rodgers? The same one who starred in the Liverpool documentary? The same one that said Chelsea would be a backwards step in his career? The same one to who Chelsea loaned 3 players, and he let them all to rot without game time? The same one who bleaches his teeth ?

 

WUM!

He said Chelsea would be a backwards step? Unless by it he just meant cause he’d be going back to Chelsea.

Remember his three enevelopes? 

18 hours ago, enigma said:

Can you just imagine if we win the FA Cup and sack Conte. I still think parting ways is probably for the best, but winning the FA Cup and then sacking Conte would be a strange mix of emotions. 

I'm not sure why happiness and joy would be a strange mix. 

5 hours ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

He said Chelsea would be a backwards step? Unless by it he just meant cause he’d be going back to Chelsea.

Remember his three enevelopes? 

He was mentioned as a potential candidate for the Chelsea job in 2012 after the sacking of AVB, which came when he was still Swansea manager. When asked about a potential return to Chelsea he replied "If any of our fans are wondering about me and Chelsea, they need not panic. I am trying to build my career and not destroy it."

He can sod off!

6 hours ago, Stim said:

OR WE ARE WAITING FOR THE SEASON TO END

Or do we think its a good idea to have no manager going into a cup final. Maybe give a guy 3 days to prepare the squad for it then if we lose sack him too.

 

Why would we be waiting for the end of the season if we knew we were going to sack him? Doesn't it make sense to sack him before we're out of the running for CL places? Why not sack him after the Barca loss if we were going to do it anyway? The loss to Watford would have also been a great time to do it if he was getting the sack anyway. 

 

My point is it's all nonsense that we're dead set on firing Conte and also that he will be stepping down no matter what. Why would he step down at the end of a poor season and not earlier? He's walked away from 2 clubs and Italy on his own terms, when he wanted to. What/is keeping him here? 

10 minutes ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

Why would we be waiting for the end of the season if we knew we were going to sack him? Doesn't it make sense to sack him before we're out of the running for CL places? Why not sack him after the Barca loss if we were going to do it anyway? The loss to Watford would have also been a great time to do it if he was getting the sack anyway. 

 

My point is it's all nonsense that we're dead set on firing Conte and also that he will be stepping down no matter what. Why would he step down at the end of a poor season and not earlier? He's walked away from 2 clubs and Italy on his own terms, when he wanted to. What/is keeping him here? 

What is keeping him from stepping down? I would guess  that  there are about 9.6 million reasons per year. 

Luis Enrique's demands have ended Chelsea talks (Marca)

Leonardo Jardim is front runner to become the new Chelsea boss ahead of Luis Enrique (Diario Sport)

Simon Phillips - Chelsea have spoken with Jardim, I know that much personally.

1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

What is keeping him from stepping down? I would guess  that  there are about 9.6 million reasons per year. 

I imagine a millionaire who has walked away from millions before is now suddenly holding out for money he would get elsewhere anyway and tanking results so much so that he keeps us out of CL and trophyless but not enough to ruin his reputation. If he wanted to quit why would he wait this long? This is not his last paycheck. 

What's keeping him from stepping down is a sense of pride and respect for his work. He does not want to step down, he has a contract he is going to honor. I know it's hard to imagine given the way our club seems to treat managerial contracts like toilet paper. Not once has he said anything about stepping down or breaking his contract. Maybe he's covering up but I think it's more likely the media has jammed this narrative down everyone's throat. 

Edited May 18, 20187 yr by TheChelseaBlues

19 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Luis Enrique's demands have ended Chelsea talks (Marca)

Leonardo Jardim is front runner to become the new Chelsea boss ahead of Luis Enrique (Diario Sport)

Simon Phillips - Chelsea have spoken with Jardim, I know that much personally.

Probably next best option if Sarri is 100% off the table. How good Jardim is, who knows. What he accomplished with that Monaco side was fantastic. 

15 minutes ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

I imagine a millionaire who has walked away from millions before is now suddenly holding out for money he would get elsewhere anyway and tanking results so much so that he keeps us out of CL and trophyless but not enough to ruin his reputation. If he wanted to quit why would he wait this long? This is not his last paycheck. 

What's keeping him from stepping down is a sense of pride and respect for his work. He does not want to step down, he has a contract he is going to honor. I know it's hard to imagine given the way our club seems to treat managerial contracts like toilet paper. Not once has he said anything about stepping down or breaking his contract. Maybe he's covering up but I think it's more likely the media has jammed this narrative down everyone's throat. 

Honouring your contract means, if you want me to leave give me my 9 million

Conte knows Chelsea won't have a lame duck in charge and the 9m is his when the board do blink first. He was probably hoping he'd get a gig elsewhere but no one wants him. So he will wait for the Bayern or Madrid job to come up again - likely in the next 6 months. 

Also, if Conte gets sacked, his whole team will get sacked. They want a payout too 

How a week can change perceptions. We have gone from looking like setting our house in order and reports of planning to build a long lasting project to afraid of potentially missing out on all targets as we twiddle our thumbs waiting for Conte to quit. 
It's like the people who make the decisions at this club genuinely don't want to make any decisions regarding the club and just want to sit around doing nothing. This is the type of sh*t that university students do, sit around for months until the last minute before quickly rushing in a load of work before the deadline. It's not how a company should run.
I'm becoming more and more worried for next season now.

I can confirm this

Sounds like Jardim may be the favourite now the club have disregarded Enrique. Reading about Jardim online, he has a pretty impressive resume to be fair. Twice promoted a club from the second division in Portugal to the main league. He took Sporting to title challengers with many young players in the team, but didn't win the league. He won the double in Greece with Olympiakos before moving to Monaco and winning the league there, not before losing a few better players such as Martial, James, Carrasco etc. 

Apart from in Portugal's Primera division, he's won a trophy every club he's been. Won his first major trophy with Olympiakos at the age of 37/38; he is still only 43 years old. Very good resume considering he was never a player either. He has adapted his style to play offensive, but can play defensively and has done in the past with Sporting and Monaco in the early stages due to lack of quality in the team. It seems he is a smart coach, can adapt, but isn't afraid to play young players like he has done at Sporting and with Monaco also. 

Edited May 18, 20187 yr by enigma

Yeah sounds like Jardim could be a good fit for us, especially with using limited resources. I like that he’s consistently won trophies which shows he knows how to get a team “over the line”.

I like Jardim. He seems very adaptable. 

If he does come, hopefully the club still realizes the need for a quality centre midfielder, and we dont pin our hopes on Jardim getting the best out of bakayoko.