I think fair if enough if Boehly has ideas about changing the game yet he has not even owned us for over half a season yet, no winter period or FA Cup away matches to less salubrious games. Give it time man!

Giving 5 year contracts to managers could be good with the right record yet our records with managers is short so that would likely mean lots of compensation would need to be paid when the players stop playing for the gaffer. 

7 hours ago, dkw said:

Love Austria, was in Graz last week with work and its a beautiful city.

No Way, I live there 😁😂

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Few of his idea have some potential. 

I for one like the idea of relegation play-offs. Think that could maximize a lot of revenue. 

An All Star match could work if it were held at the end of the season vs the beginning. 

They had relegation play offs we lost to Boro in 88 massive pitch invasion the terraces were shut for six games the following season so bollocks to that. No all star game would work it would have the importance and jeopardy of a testimonial if clubs are reluctant to play full strength teams in cup competitions they are hardly going to release players for an exhibition game.  There's no edge to a game like that who would give a flying one who won or lost.

Everytime I see this thread title it gives me a split second of hope that this prick has sold the club to someone who should be involved with English football.

Jim Radcliffes bid was the obvious winner even as late as it was.

Just want Roman back tbh.

Edited September 14, 20223 yr by HazardousChoice

Typical Beeb...if there's something the media can twist and play with then they will, it's their job.

But this bottom bit will help explain my last post better...it was just a question of how to raise revenue and an answer that was somewhat thought about but nothing really in it. Remember.... no hard no's.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62899010

From BBC article:

When asked what his fellow football club owners would think about an All-Star game Boehly said: "Everyone likes the idea of more revenue for the league.

"I think there's a real cultural aspect, I think evolution will come."

Boehly, who led a consortium to a £4.25bn takeover of Chelsea in May, also put forward the suggestion that relegation places for the top-flight could be decided by a four-team tournament, rather than the usual format of the three bottom sides going down automatically.

There is no relegation in the major sports in the US, with the worst performing teams getting first picks of new talent in a draft which leads to accusations of teams "tanking" for an improved pick.

"The economics of going into the Championship are materially different," he added.

"When you go into the Championship those numbers fall off a cliff. So there's no one thinking about tanking, and those relegation games are some of the highest broadcast games."

Edited September 14, 20223 yr by Simplymo

I enjoy that it appears that Boehly and co have an idea and a plan and they're not just winging it. Tuchel's sacking is unforatunate, but if there is truth to what Boehly is saying in regards to Tuchel's dismissal, then they probably just got the sacking over with because if they didn't think he was aligned with them now, I can only imagine that divide would've been widening further and further. So, they decided to rip the bandaid off.

As far as the all-star game idea: it's a good idea on paper, and could be very interesting. But the actual implementation of said all-star game would be a little more difficult given that there are international games and windows to worry about, and also, if it's a world cup year... there isn't any time in the summer either. Plus, you have continental federations that hold tournaments in the summer as well. So, instead of an actual all-star game, why not do something similar but 1st team, 2nd team, 3rd team all-stars as a designation. idk lol

Most all-star games are about fan interaction and putting on a show. Having the game mean something is nice - i.e. baseball; the league winner gets home field advantage in the world series. But, how would you make the match mean anything? I'm not sure you can so it would have to be about supporter interaction. Regardless, I couldn't see this passing unless the amount of money each club would get from this is absolutely astronomical. 

1 hour ago, Michael_AT said:

No Way, I live there 😁😂

Was visiting Andritz, stayed at the hotel Weitzer. Had a couple of nights out, lovely city and some lovely restaurants. 

1 hour ago, HazardousChoice said:

Everytime I see this thread title it gives me a split second of hope that this prick has sold the club to someone who should be involved with English football.

Jim Radcliffes bid was the obvious winner even as late as it was.

Just want Roman back tbh.

So why is he a prick?  

16 minutes ago, dkw said:

So why is he a prick?  

What kind of idiot buys a club, causes pretty much every senior figure in the club to leave immediately while having absolutely 0 idea of replacements leading to him lone wolfing it himself across Europe all summer while forcing Tuchel to fill in multiple back room roles outside his job description (which he publically admitted to being uncomfortable in) only to immediately dispense with him once the window finished.

Fat boy Boehly showed an astonishing lack of respect to Tuchel on a human level which makes him a prick and I'd say him coming in and immediately talking about changing the format of the game so quickly, having just sacked such a successful and important figure in our history shows he has a clear lack of respect for the game and the fans.

obviously on a business level removing the backroom team with no idea of any replacements and spending nearly £300m on players largely scouted by a manager you didn't want and didn't agree with only to sack him as soon as the window closed is a laughably bad way to run the club.

Edited September 14, 20223 yr by HazardousChoice

First of all I like that he's thinking outside the box a little bit.   I don't think it's wrong for someone to brainstorm a few ideas.  People should chill out and stop acting like these mere suggestions are pissing all over something sacred.  Remember it was Roman's board that agreed to make Chelsea part of the super league. . . Not Todd's.  But somehow Roman and his people seem to get forgiven about that.  

 

I don't think an all star game would work out.  Scheduling might be tough and the reality is that the more physical a sport is the dumber all star games become because everyone is trying to avoid injury.  I don't watch baseball but since baseball isn't a real physical sport an all star game probably isn't too bad.  But I watch American football and the all star game for that is dumb.  Half of the players won't go and have to be replaced by alternates and it's obvious that they players arn't trying very hard.  

 

An all star game for the EPL would be sort of between the two, could not possibly be as dumb as the one for American football but I don't think most would be excited about a pre-season friendly.  Also I think the fan rivalries are so strong they would be upset by seeing players on their team playing on the same team as one of their rivals.  From my understanding we're only 30 to 40 years removed from what used to be regular gang fights between supporters of different teams.  (Hooliganism)

 

The relegation playoffs would probably make for some interesting matches.  Take the teams from 17th through 20, give, have 17th play 20th at 17th's home stadium and 18 play 19 at 18's home stadium.  Then the highest ranked winner gets home advantage over the other winner in a final that determines who gets to stay in the EPL.

 

 

 

ahhh name calling is a great way to invalidate your entire argument. I guess since they didn't sign a player or manager or top level executive you want that means the guy is an idiot and fat. makes sense. Roman isn't coming back. Ever. Get over it. We move forward

6 minutes ago, Valpo said:

The relegation playoffs would probably make for some interesting matches.  Take the teams from 17th through 20, give, have 17th play 20th at 17th's home stadium and 18 play 19 at 18's home stadium.  Then the highest ranked winner gets home advantage over the other winner in a final that determines who gets to stay in the EPL.

 

 

 

Not for me. The idea has some merit but not the way you put forward. Cannot have the bottom of the league side having the chance to escape the drop.

20th place goes down

18th place hosts 19th place playoff. Winner advances to final, loser goes down.

17th hosts the winner of the playoff. Winner stays up, loser goes down. 

Would add to the drama imo.

Edited September 14, 20223 yr by axman2526

4 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Not for me. The idea has some merit but not the way you put forward. Cannot have the bottom of the league side having the chance to escape the drop.

20th place goes down

18th place hosts 19th place playoff. Winner advances to final, loser goes down.

17th hosts the winner of the playoff. Winner stays up, loser goes down. 

Would add to the drama imo.

That idea doesn't bother me.  

Scrap League Cup from Prem teams. You got some space for an All Star-game/weekend if you want it. Even if you don't play it LC could be scrapped. Absolutely no one would miss it. 

2 minutes ago, evissy said:

Scrap League Cup from Prem teams. You got some space for an All Star-game/weekend if you want it. Even if you don't play it LC could be scrapped. Absolutely no one would miss it. 

Just take the PL out of the league cup. Leave a Europa conference league place for the winners. Would make it worthwhile to the league sides, and give them a "major trophy" they have a chance to win.

18 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Cannot have the bottom of the league side having the chance to escape the drop.

And 18th 19th should go down. It's the fair way. It's a league, not snakes and ladders.

5 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Just take the PL out of the league cup. Leave a Europa conference league place for the winners. Would make it worthwhile to the league sides, and give them a "major trophy" they have a chance to win.

I think a better idea here would be make all premier league clubs that qualify for Europe exempt from playing in the league cup. So the teams that finish 1-7 don’t play in the league cup, then it frees it up for the rest of the premier league to have a go at a “major trophy” safe in the knowledge they’re not eventually going to get knocked out by one of the bigger boys. 

Edited September 14, 20223 yr by drjonesy1994

Just now, coco said:

And 18th 19th should go down. It's the fair way. It's a league, snakes and ladders.

Aye I am happy with how things are, has worked very well for a long time. 

Just if such a plan came on to motion and that is how the league decided to go, is how I would like to see it implemented.

1 minute ago, drjonesy1994 said:

I think a better idea here would be make all premier league clubs that qualify for Europe exempt from playing in the league cup. So the teams that finish 1-7 don’t play in the league cup, then it frees it up for the rest of the premier league to have a go at a “major trophy” safe in the knowledge they’re not eventually going to get knocked out by one of the bigger boys. 

That would work too.

8 minutes ago, evissy said:

Scrap League Cup from Prem teams. You got some space for an All Star-game/weekend if you want it. Even if you don't play it LC could be scrapped. Absolutely no one would miss it. 

Yes we would, no clubs in the lower league give two sh*ts about all-stars games, but they do care about the domestic cups, your way off with that statement.

American owners come to European football thinking that the way American sports operate and their models are the most evolved and superior. What they dont understand is that the fans here hate their ridiculous franchise models and will never accept them. Underneath we all know Boelhy would love a superleague, he is already suggesting a pathetic allstar game. You wont catch me supporting Arsenal and West Ham players…the internationals are enough! 
 

English and European football is steeped in hundreds of years of culture. We dont want to Americanize it. Boelhy will realise soon enough his vision is not wanted and hiring a yes man in Potter wont translate to success.

4 hours ago, TomCFC85 said:

Todd Boehly sacks Tuchel and then says the league should be more Americanised.

To put this into Shed End perspective, imagine a new mod booting @Valerie and then proposing we shift to Discord.

What buffoonery.

Wait, what? 

4 minutes ago, drjonesy1994 said:

I think a better idea here would be make all premier league clubs that qualify for Europe exempt from playing in the league cup. So the teams that finish 1-7 don’t play in the league cup, then it frees it up for the rest of the premier league to have a go at a “major trophy” safe in the knowledge they’re not eventually going to get knocked out by one of the bigger boys. 

I'd rather play the league Cup.

Missing out on such an important cup in the football pyramid to play a proxy Yank fantasy tournament seems like a downgrade for the top clubs.

It's also a downgrade for the league Cup itself and prevents the lower league club getting potential once in a lifetime money spinning ties.

7 minutes ago, HazardousChoice said:

I'd rather play the league Cup.

Missing out on such an important cup in the football pyramid to play a proxy Yank fantasy tournament seems like a downgrade for the top clubs.

It's also a downgrade for the league Cup itself and prevents the lower league club getting potential once in a lifetime money spinning ties.

Tbf mate I wasn’t even thinking about Boehly’s idea with what I said. I was just thinking to avoid fixture congestion for those that qualify for Europe. Teams that finish 8-20 in the Premier League and then all the teams in the championship and below play the league cup. 

Whatever your views of the league cup, the big boys don’t respect it and only really take it seriously if they get to the semis. 

 

34 minutes ago, Valpo said:

First of all I like that he's thinking outside the box a little bit.   I don't think it's wrong for someone to brainstorm a few ideas.  People should chill out and stop acting like these mere suggestions are pissing all over something sacred.  Remember it was Roman's board that agreed to make Chelsea part of the super league. . . Not Todd's.  But somehow Roman and his people seem to get forgiven about that.  

 

I don't think an all star game would work out.  Scheduling might be tough and the reality is that the more physical a sport is the dumber all star games become because everyone is trying to avoid injury.  I don't watch baseball but since baseball isn't a real physical sport an all star game probably isn't too bad.  But I watch American football and the all star game for that is dumb.  Half of the players won't go and have to be replaced by alternates and it's obvious that they players arn't trying very hard.  

 

An all star game for the EPL would be sort of between the two, could not possibly be as dumb as the one for American football but I don't think most would be excited about a pre-season friendly.  Also I think the fan rivalries are so strong they would be upset by seeing players on their team playing on the same team as one of their rivals.  From my understanding we're only 30 to 40 years removed from what used to be regular gang fights between supporters of different teams.  (Hooliganism)

 

The relegation playoffs would probably make for some interesting matches.  Take the teams from 17th through 20, give, have 17th play 20th at 17th's home stadium and 18 play 19 at 18's home stadium.  Then the highest ranked winner gets home advantage over the other winner in a final that determines who gets to stay in the EPL.

 

 

 

Agree with the level headedness and the all star games could work in principle that players don't really hate each other anymore and they could do it feasibly unlike before.
But Todd will learn that we have to manage fatigue and friendlies need to be used to create team tactics and chemistry and there is no time to waste playing in a temporary side like an all star team.

His suggestion of a multi team franchise to develop young players isn't really worth it as well, yes Red Bull is somewhat successful but look at City, their setup is pretty much worthless.
we are probably better of continuing as is and not doing too much new stuff to shake it up.