7 hours ago, Brigadeiro Mk II said:

I wouldn't be so worried about pre-season starting today as it's only the players who haven't played any international games who came back. Even if we did sign De Ligt or Sterling, they wouldn't be available right now anyway. Guess next week would be our internal deadline to finalize signings which would give them a month to prepare for our first league game.  

However I do agree that now is the time to properly evaluate those remaining players and do our utmost to clear the squad of fillers. Barkley, Emerson, Bats etc have to be sold this window, enough of those useless loans.

That's a fair point. May be we won't see movement on Sterling till his holidays are done.

5 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

They were not permitted to, as per the terms of the British Government's licence. No transfers, no contract renewals, no future planning was permitted so that Abramovich could not continue to inflate the value of the club. Skirting around UEFA/FIFA transfer bans is one thing but taking on a sovereign government who can impose criminal penalties is folly.

In fact, the original terms of the licence even restricted game-day functions and it wasn't until Chelsea negotiated a better deal a few days later that matchdays and wages were guaranteed.

I know it's popular to rag on the old board these days but I think perspective is important as well.

Thank you for the education on that as I was not sure of it!

 

1 hour ago, thebluekid said:

Thank you for the education on that as I was not sure of it!

 

Would of been interesting to see Roman sue the UK government, just throw a Billion in legal fees, i'm sure boris and co wouldn't of been to happy, in fact the'd of sh*t themselves....

13 hours ago, Argo said:

To be honest if Barkley is happy to just merely exist in the squad in an Origi esque way I wouldn't be against him doing so.

He always seems to have one month a season where he plays quite well and if that comes at a time Mount and/or Gallagher are injured or after the world cup (when Mount may need a bit of rest after a long tournament) then he could come in handy.

Yeah I can see your point and guess Ross would be the least of our problems. I'd just rather TT decides if it's RLC or Barkley for that reserve role and then we somehow clear a way for someone like Anjorin, who if correctly rated should be able to produce something fairly similar along the 1st squad. 

But if we don't rate anyone with that talent, then by all means get rid of them and keep Barkley. I admit it is hard to find that balance though and lots of things have to be considered as well, especially the contract situation. 

Hopefully the rapid turnover of managers has ended , and TT and whoever comes next  has time to look at the Academy and loan players as possible first team squad members.

Don't think he'll be under the sort of pressure that other managers were under for the last 20 years.

and I don't think we fans we should have tantrums when we have a few barren seasons.

the glory days of RA are over, it was great, but now we go back to pre RA days, which wasn't too shabby .....sometimes!

11 hours ago, Ballack & Blu said:

5 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

I'm overwhelmed by our non stop activity, truly amazing, working like the finest Swiss timepiece, or Premier products off the Stuttgart assembly line of pristine Mercs

Just now, Ballack & Blu said:

I'm overwhelmed by our non stop activity, truly amazing, working like the finest Swiss timepiece, or Premier products off the Stuttgart assembly line of pristine Mercs

Don’t worry, the womens euros starts this week so we’ll have some actual football to keep our minds off it!

Maybe thats the plan, hurry the start of the PL, and they'll hope we've slept through the melee

2 hours ago, Ballack & Blu said:

I'm overwhelmed by our non stop activity, truly amazing, working like the finest Swiss timepiece, or Premier products off the Stuttgart assembly line of pristine Mercs

I would be happy enough if I new for sure the likes of Colwill, Broja, Gallagher and Vale were given a fair crack of the whip at the first team. They would be as new signings to us.

Would also prefer we stay away from deals this summer if we don't have a clear idea of what we want to do. Of late Liverpool and City have been clear with their recruitment and if they have to wait to get their man they do they don't go picking up garbage options. 

I mean if we can get top talent that could become really special investments, like supposedly De Ligt is regarded as one of the best young CBS in the world, then fair enough. 

8 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

Hopefully the rapid turnover of managers has ended , and TT and whoever comes next  has time to look at the Academy and loan players as possible first team squad members.

Don't think he'll be under the sort of pressure that other managers were under for the last 20 years.

and I don't think we fans we should have tantrums when we have a few barren seasons.

the glory days of RA are over, it was great, but now we go back to pre RA days, which wasn't too shabby .....sometimes!

I think that's a bad attitude for us to take as fans.

We have a big role to play in holding these new owners to account in maintaining the standards that Roman has now set for our club.

Being the best should ALWAYS be our goal.

8 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

Hopefully the rapid turnover of managers has ended , and TT and whoever comes next  has time to look at the Academy and loan players as possible first team squad members.

Don't think he'll be under the sort of pressure that other managers were under for the last 20 years.

and I don't think we fans we should have tantrums when we have a few barren seasons.

the glory days of RA are over, it was great, but now we go back to pre RA days, which wasn't too shabby .....sometimes!

The pressure that managers faced under RA will be incomparable to what faces the club now that it is owned by a hedge fund that has a stated goal of increasing the club's valuation to around $10bn within ten years. 

Abramovich and the "old regime" (as some seem to call it while being unfortunately subjected to trophy after trophy for 20 years) allowed the club to spend its way out of trouble. Our biggest mistakes were capitalising on our successes as we remained a team able to conjure up success even in the darkest moments. A hedge fund has fiduciary duty to its shareholders/investors, and therefore the notion of spending to succeed will at one point or another be seen as throwing good money after bad.

If Tuchel doesn't succeed with the money invested, the club will likely go into terminal decline. We've seen this with all the other hedge-fund owned clubs. Liverpool. for all the success of their "model" and their giant global fanbase, haven't increased their revenues significantly more than any other club or the general EPL trend. The only way out of this is if Chelsea and other clubs form a European Super League. That's why FSG and the Liverpool board were so heavily for it.

I give it 4-5 years before the hedge fund decide that investing in football was a terrible mistake.

Edited July 3, 20223 yr by SydneyChelsea

Taken from the Athletic report:

”They were always doomed to be playing catch-up, which is why many agents and others close to the club indicated they expected Granovskaia to stick around and help navigate this window even if she did not factor into the new owners’ long-term plans.

But the impression formed by many who contacted her regarding potential deals in the early weeks following the takeover was that she was already being sidelined, with Boehly opting to work the phones himself and talk directly to agents and executives at rival clubs. That shift was formalised with Chelsea’s announcement on June 22 that the American “will operate as interim sporting director until the club names a full-time replacement”. They added that Granovskaia had agreed to “remain available” for the remainder of the transfer window, but she is unlikely to be consulted.”

“But any supporters concerned about Boehly taking direction from Tuchel on transfer targets might be reassured to know that the names coming from Chelsea’s head coach are not based on purely subjective judgements. Sources have told The Athleticthat he is using data from an analytics company he has worked with since his Dortmund days to inform his recommendations, and that Raphinha in particular was targeted after his creative metrics scored particularly well against other attackers aged 25 and younger.

Data is also at the heart of Boehly and Clearlake’s long-term thinking. Chelsea have already posted a job advert for a lead data scientist, and The Athleticreported last month that the new owners are hoping to bring in six to eight new people with analytics pedigree.”

17 minutes ago, JM7 said:

“But any supporters concerned about Boehly taking direction from Tuchel on transfer targets might be reassured to know that the names coming from Chelsea’s head coach are not based on purely subjective judgements. Sources have told The Athleticthat he is using data from an analytics company he has worked with since his Dortmund days to inform his recommendations, and that Raphinha in particular was targeted after his creative metrics scored particularly well against other attackers aged 25 and younger.

Data is also at the heart of Boehly and Clearlake’s long-term thinking. Chelsea have already posted a job advert for a lead data scientist, and The Athleticreported last month that the new owners are hoping to bring in six to eight new people with analytics pedigree.”

Data are good but let's say we sign rapinha. In leeds he primarily playing as rw. 

What happen when he play as ram/rf for us? Will he produce the same number? 

Its all very well targeting the right players but you have to get the signatures.

Mr Boehly doesn't have any experience of buying players in the premier league or europe and I suspect the negotiating conditions here are a bit more nuanced than in the USA.

This week is key if TT is to get a full preseason with all his players. 

Get your finger out Mr Boehly.

5 hours ago, JM7 said:

“But any supporters concerned about Boehly taking direction from Tuchel on transfer targets might be reassured to know that the names coming from Chelsea’s head coach are not based on purely subjective judgements. Sources have told The Athleticthat he is using data from an analytics company he has worked with since his Dortmund days to inform his recommendations, and that Raphinha in particular was targeted after his creative metrics scored particularly well against other attackers aged 25 and younger.

Data is also at the heart of Boehly and Clearlake’s long-term thinking. Chelsea have already posted a job advert for a lead data scientist, and The Athleticreported last month that the new owners are hoping to bring in six to eight new people with analytics pedigree.”

They will probably fck off to Barca or BM at the last minute, when they find out the salary package

20 hours ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

I think that's a bad attitude for us to take as fans.

We have a big role to play in holding these new owners to account in maintaining the standards that Roman has now set for our club.

Being the best should ALWAYS be our goal.win

The standards Roman set were backed by millions of his personal wealth.. That's gone.  

Billion dollar hedge funds in America don't care about being " held to account "

Roman left us with a first class Academy, that's our future, I'm prepared to wait.

 

They have £1.75B to invest along with club turnovers

We have dropped a lot of confirmed targets in the last week, Probably being fleeced with all the sale publicity and moneys involved etc

Players in for pre season is the ideal but we still have 8 weeks left to address first team issues 

The investment needs investment otherwise the investment fails and they lose a literal truck of money!

1 hour ago, The Rising Sun said:

The standards Roman set were backed by millions of his personal wealth.. That's gone.  

Billion dollar hedge funds in America don't care about being " held to account "

Roman left us with a first class Academy, that's our future, I'm prepared to wait.

 

All owners care about their fans' contentment, at least a little. Other the Super League would have succeeded.

1 hour ago, The Rising Sun said:

Billion dollar hedge funds in America don't care about being " held to account "

Oh yes they do, but football fans especially in this country don't/won't do the nessesery to put the pressure of them.

14 minutes ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

All owners care about their fans' contentment, at least a little. Other the Super League would have succeeded.

Wasnt that more to do with the powers that be i.e The PL, FA, uefa etc

It would be like an agent losing all his talent, Bit like what's going on with the PGA etc

One thing of note about that, With loads of top players dropping out, New players are winning

2 hours ago, Kantesmini said:

They have £1.75B to invest along with club turnovers

We have dropped a lot of confirmed targets in the last week, Probably being fleeced with all the sale publicity and moneys involved etc

Players in for pre season is the ideal but we still have 8 weeks left to address first team issues 

The investment needs investment otherwise the investment fails and they lose a literal truck of money!

That is 1.75Bn to invest in the club over a ten year period. I think we'll find the majority of this investment will be in trying to develop Stamford Bridge, probably closely to RA original model, taking into account the railway line and the cemetery. 

22 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

That is 1.75Bn to invest in the club over a ten year period. I think we'll find the majority of this investment will be in trying to develop Stamford Bridge, probably closely to RA original model, taking into account the railway line and the cemetery. 

I thought the same but boehly was directly quoted saying its also transfer kitty, Stand by stand re fit, Would cost more than 1.75B to redev and build the infrastructure, Would need bridges built etc