Has 1 year left on his contract right? Be nice for a Chelsea manager to finish his contract and us not need to pay him compo for a change.

So let him stay next season, I vote out though for him to see out his contract and then be gone.

1 hour ago, Sindre said:

Figured someone would say that.

But it's entirely possible to line up like that if we were willing to spend some money. We need to invest in the squad and i believe we should be aiming for a core of mostly young and british emerging players.

Or what's so unrealistic about it if i may ask?

I wasn't being trying to be Arsey with you, it was just the cost of those players, i'd estimate best part of £300 million, even if we could get Bissaka, Chilwell, Rice, and jovic et al

Some people have asked about the options if we sack Sarri. If we get the ban held for this summer i'd put my faith in Lampard with Jody & JT as assistants.
Sarri has said he'd only want a player or two from the transfer market but i believe we need much more and should also be aiming for a team with an english/british core under Lampard's guidance.
We will need to spend quite a bit of money but if we intead to compete with City and Liverpool and be a part of this league's resurgance in the CL we need too.
I would aim to look something like this from next season:
                                Kepa
  Wan-Bissaka - Rudiger - Maguire* - Chillwell/Tierney
                    Kante - Declan Rice
       Pulisic - Loftus Cheek - Hudson Odoi
                              Jovic
*If we got him for a decent price. If not look for other options.
For me, that is a team with upside and a team i could see turn into something really special in the end.  And as importantly i could see a team like that turn into what i consider the "true" Chelsea - a team with passion, determination, unity and a winning mentality that could take us far with those three leading us.
I am sure many will disagree with this but i would find something like that much more exciting and promising than what we are facing now with new contracts for the likes of Luiz, Alonso, Higuain and the likes.
So i hope we take the necessary actions and go for it.

A lot to hang your hopes on. I'm sorry but I don't want the club to turn into Tottenham 1.1. I want to see a good mix of world class talent, experience, and youth. How are you going to form an identity and pass down club values if the strongest character in your side is Rudiger? City and Liverpool would own us for the better part of a decade.

14 hours ago, Sindre said:

Some people have asked about the options if we sack Sarri. If we get the ban held for this summer i'd put my faith in Lampard with Jody & JT as assistants.
Sarri has said he'd only want a player or two from the transfer market but i believe we need much more and should also be aiming for a team with an english/british core under Lampard's guidance.
We will need to spend quite a bit of money but if we intead to compete with City and Liverpool and be a part of this league's resurgance in the CL we need too.

I would aim to look something like this from next season:

                                Kepa
  Wan-Bissaka - Rudiger - Maguire* - Chillwell/Tierney
                    Kante - Declan Rice
       Pulisic - Loftus Cheek - Hudson Odoi
                              Jovic

*If we got him for a decent price. If not look for other options.

For me, that is a team with upside and a team i could see turn into something really special in the end.  And as importantly i could see a team like that turn into what i consider the "true" Chelsea - a team with passion, determination, unity and a winning mentality that could take us far with those three leading us.

I am sure many will disagree with this but i would find something like that much more exciting and promising than what we are facing now with new contracts for the likes of Luiz, Alonso, Higuain and the likes.

So i hope we take the necessary actions and go for it.

This is your great plan instead of Sarri? Good lord, the whole post is utterly ludicrous. 

10 hours ago, Ballack & Blu said:

Ok if you're playing Fifa 19

Well I suggest you sign better players on Fifa, I have Sancho, Icardi, Milinkovic-Savic, Ruben Neves, Lucas Hernandez & Jovic, De Ligt on mine so if Marina wants to just copy that I can send her a screenshot.. ?

17 hours ago, big blue said:

What else would you expect sarri to say in that situation? No I dont want to keep him, he's been sh*t and I made a mistake wanting him. 

Maybe sarri is just protecting the player, if the ban comes in, then higuian will probably be a more attractive option.

Since that whole situation hasn't even happened yet, I dont see how you can use it as an argument for or against sarri. 

He could make a mistake in the market, but so could anyone. We can't predict the future, and from all accounts, who we sign is never solely down to the manager anyway.

Agree re what was he supposed to say. Arsene Wenger coined the expression “ football lies”

Eg  I didn’t see the penalty incident.

So and so is not for sale

We’re all behind the gaffer

I wonder how they keep a straight face sometimes yet obviously some posters here take it all at face value.

 

 

Edited May 11, 20197 yr by Ewell CFC

15 hours ago, Sindre said:

Some people have asked about the options if we sack Sarri. If we get the ban held for this summer i'd put my faith in Lampard with Jody & JT as assistants.
Sarri has said he'd only want a player or two from the transfer market but i believe we need much more and should also be aiming for a team with an english/british core under Lampard's guidance.
We will need to spend quite a bit of money but if we intead to compete with City and Liverpool and be a part of this league's resurgance in the CL we need too.

I would aim to look something like this from next season:

                                Kepa
  Wan-Bissaka - Rudiger - Maguire* - Chillwell/Tierney
                    Kante - Declan Rice
       Pulisic - Loftus Cheek - Hudson Odoi
                              Jovic

*If we got him for a decent price. If not look for other options.

For me, that is a team with upside and a team i could see turn into something really special in the end.  And as importantly i could see a team like that turn into what i consider the "true" Chelsea - a team with passion, determination, unity and a winning mentality that could take us far with those three leading us.

I am sure many will disagree with this but i would find something like that much more exciting and promising than what we are facing now with new contracts for the likes of Luiz, Alonso, Higuain and the likes.

So i hope we take the necessary actions and go for it.

This is why you don't like Sarri. Your expectations are far too high. You probably think we should be challenging for the title despite the fact our club is a basket case. 

Anyway we don't have that money and we won't sign jovic, rice or Maguire. We just won't be in the running. Additionally none of those players will come to a Chelsea that's appointed an inexperienced manager. Additionally JT will not want to be Frank's assistant (never realise that?). I don't know why Frank would join anyway, we'd just sack him in 12 months when we inevitably fail to win a trophy. 

Sarri wants two signings because that's all we can realistically expect at a top level. 

22 hours ago, charierre said:

One thing better than being a good manager is being a lucky one. Despite being awful to watch for large portions of games , we have made the objectives. On that alone on the balance of argument deserves to keep his job. I still have grave doubts, his inability to tactically change a match,Jekyll and Hyde performances and our general entertainment value being some of them. Trophies in the end defines a tenure, he now has a great chance of delivering the first of his career.

Napoleon said much the same about generals, an interesting point.

17 hours ago, Sindre said:

Some people have asked about the options if we sack Sarri. If we get the ban held for this summer i'd put my faith in Lampard with Jody & JT as assistants.
Sarri has said he'd only want a player or two from the transfer market but i believe we need much more and should also be aiming for a team with an english/british core under Lampard's guidance.
We will need to spend quite a bit of money but if we intead to compete with City and Liverpool and be a part of this league's resurgance in the CL we need too.

I would aim to look something like this from next season:

                                Kepa
  Wan-Bissaka - Rudiger - Maguire* - Chillwell/Tierney
                    Kante - Declan Rice
       Pulisic - Loftus Cheek - Hudson Odoi
                              Jovic

*If we got him for a decent price. If not look for other options.

For me, that is a team with upside and a team i could see turn into something really special in the end.  And as importantly i could see a team like that turn into what i consider the "true" Chelsea - a team with passion, determination, unity and a winning mentality that could take us far with those three leading us.

I am sure many will disagree with this but i would find something like that much more exciting and promising than what we are facing now with new contracts for the likes of Luiz, Alonso, Higuain and the likes.

So i hope we take the necessary actions and go for it.

Surely you understand the difficulty with expecting a manager who finished 6th in the Championship to come in and achieve 4th place or better in an extremely competitive PL right off the bat, right? In fact, I don't think it's even been done in recent history.

Also, Sarri really needs a left-back who stays outside and crosses, ala Ghoulam. Part of the problem with Alonso is that 1) his crosses aren't that great and 2) he cuts inside to attack the goal. Neither Chilwell or Tierney are great at crossing (nor is Emerson for that matter). I think someone like Alex Telles would be close to ideal given how frequently and accurately he crosses, with Leipzig's Halstenberg or Fiorentina's Biraghi being other options. 

The rest of your post has been critiqued by others, so I won't write anything they haven't already written. 

EDIT: I accept that he's nearing 30 and has been below his usual standards this season, but surely Wan-Bissaka (who we likely won't purchase anyway) would start off as being Azpi's understudy? Also, Sarri isn't dropping Jorginho for any length of time. 

Edited May 11, 20197 yr by DaRick

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

This is why you don't like Sarri. Your expectations are far too high. You probably think we should be challenging for the title despite the fact our club is a basket case. 

Anyway we don't have that money and we won't sign jovic, rice or Maguire. We just won't be in the running. Additionally none of those players will come to a Chelsea that's appointed an inexperienced manager. Additionally JT will not want to be Frank's assistant (never realise that?). I don't know why Frank would join anyway, we'd just sack him in 12 months when we inevitably fail to win a trophy. 

Sarri wants two signings because that's all we can realistically expect at a top level. 

We don't have the money? In what world do we not have the money?

We just crushed the world-record fee for a goalkeeper by signing Kepa and we've spent so much money (mostly on dross) lately that's it ceased to be funny a long time ago.

And yes, i do think this club should be challenging for the title. We won the league two seasons ago and have been the most successfull club in this league for the last 15 years afterall.

Have some faith people and realize that we can do so much better than what we are seeing right now. We can raise funds by selling some of the dross we've aquired lately and spend it on some good/great players and on a manager that gets this league and we will get back to challenging.

19 hours ago, big blue said:

The striker situation is not Sarri's fault, he inherited poor strikers, he tried to fix the problem short term in January, with a player he knew, it hasn't worked out. But the problem has been their for 2 seasons.

CHO is 18, I agree he should've played more games, but again, he is inconsistent. Not his fault, he's still a kid.

Jorginho has struggled to adapt, but the midfield sarri inherited was in need of work. Fabregas's legs had gone, bakayoko is awful, drinkwater isnt good enough, and the jury is still out on Barkley. I would say with emergence of RLC and Jorginho gradually getting better, the midfield is in better shape than it was last season.

Alonso has been poor, Emerson has been marginally better, but neither they or Azpilicueta delivery consistent quality going forward. So my point still stands that the full backs available to sarri are lacking.

If Guardiola had this squad, do you think we would have been any better than 3rd? The difference between ourselves and and the top is 25 points, would we really have gotten much closer with Guardiola in charge of this set of players? Guardiola finished his 1st season with 78 points, and that was with a stronger squad, and against lower level opposition.

A lot I like in this post.

I think the ban will stick and we will bring back Tammy Abraham and Reece James.

Pulisic will of course join too.

With a full pre-season (not Pulisic re USA duty) it will be interesting to see how well we start the next season.

I think both Alonso and Azpi are on downward trajectories in their careers due to increased fitness demands of wide backs.

I will look to see improvements in Emerson's defensive positioning but think he is our best option at Left back.

I've seen plenty of highlights of Abraham so know he can score yet can he lead the line well for 90 minutes?

I think Sarri will be given one more season before a decision is made.

The potential exists for us to get an experienced younger side with RLC, Emerson, James, Abraham, Pulisic having prominent roles.

CHO will likely figure too though think inconsistency will be a factor.

27 minutes ago, DaRick said:

Surely you understand the difficulty with expecting a manager who finished 6th in the Championship to come in and achieve 4th place or better in an extremely competitive PL right off the bat, right? In fact, I don't think it's even been done in recent history.

Also, Sarri really needs a left-back who stays outside and crosses, ala Ghoulam. Part of the problem with Alonso is that 1) his crosses aren't that great and 2) he cuts inside to attack the goal. Neither Chilwell or Tierney are great at crossing (nor is Emerson for that matter). I think someone like Alex Telles would be close to ideal given how frequently and accurately he crosses, with Leipzig's Halstenberg or Fiorentina's Biraghi being other options. 

The rest of your post has been critiqued by others, so I won't write anything they haven't already written. 

EDIT: I accept that he's nearing 30 and has been below his usual standards this season, but surely Wan-Bissaka (who we likely won't purchase anyway) would start off as being Azpi's understudy? Also, Sarri isn't dropping Jorginho for any length of time. 

Three of the best managers in the game right now got their chances coming directly from managing reserves. You don't need a fantastic track-record if you have the right ideas and "get" the club you are managing. Lampard has done very well with a young Derby side, he certainly gets this club and as importantly do i believe that he's a man that could finally bring us som continuity and plan in the transfer-market for the future.

And i am not saying we would be challenging Liverpool or City this coming season. The gap is likely too big for that but i 100% believe we should be aiming for a side that can challenge them in a couple of years.
And have people forgot that we will face a ban? We better go all out in the transfer market if we get the suspension held for this summer as we will very likely face the prospect of two windows without being able to sign anyone.

With Sarri we are heading for a dirt-old, slow and as non-challengers before we know it.
People need to wake up and smell the coffee. One of the best players in the world is leaving the club this summer but "we don't have the money"? We do have the money and we should spend it and get back to where we belong.

 

23 minutes ago, Sindre said:

We don't have the money? In what world do we not have the money?

We just crushed the world-record fee for a goalkeeper by signing Kepa and we've spent so much money (mostly on dross) lately that's it ceased to be funny a long time ago.

And yes, i do think this club should be challenging for the title. We won the league two seasons ago and have been the most successfull club in this league for the last 15 years afterall.

Have some faith people and realize that we can do so much better than what we are seeing right now. We can raise funds by selling some of the dross we've aquired lately and spend it on some good/great players and on a manager that gets this league and we will get back to challenging.

Yes but there was no agent fee, the contract was for 7 years, there were reasons behind that signing. 

We don't have the £60-70m for Rice, Jovic AND Maguire would each command. That's £200m. Regardless of the fact none of those three players will come here. 

3 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Yes but there was no agent fee, the contract was for 7 years, there were reasons behind that signing. 

We don't have the £60-70m for Rice, Jovic AND Maguire would each command. That's £200m. Regardless of the fact none of those three players will come here. 

And yet we have spent over 220 million each summer for the last two years? How do you explain that then?

And we just spent 60 million on Pulisic. It's ridicilous to claim we don't have the money.

Edited May 11, 20197 yr by Sindre

1 minute ago, Sindre said:

And yet we have spent over 220 million each summer for the last two years? How do you explain that then?

Roman gave a sh*t 2 years ago.

11 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Roman gave a sh*t 2 years ago.

And in january then? 

I assume just must give a sh*t if you spend 60 million on a Dortmund-reserve?

And we'll likely recieve over 200 million this summer coming from player-sales.

Edited May 11, 20197 yr by Sindre

So sack Sarri and replace him with who?

 

Still haven’t seen an answer that’s realistic yet, these fifa/football manager fantasies doesn't work in the real world.

 

Everyone and their nan is a great armchair manager just ask Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and Mr Henry .

 

 

11 minutes ago, Brutos said:

So sack Sarri and replace him with who?

 

Still haven’t seen an answer that’s realistic yet, these fifa/football manager fantasies doesn't work in the real world.

 

Everyone and their nan is a great armchair manager just ask Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and Mr Henry .

 

 

Apparently someone who just "gets" the club will lead us to success. It"s that simple, donchaknow.

39 minutes ago, Sindre said:

Three of the best managers in the game right now got their chances coming directly from managing reserves. You don't need a fantastic track-record if you have the right ideas and "get" the club you are managing. Lampard has done very well with a young Derby side, he certainly gets this club and as importantly do i believe that he's a man that could finally bring us som continuity and plan in the transfer-market for the future.

Are you referring to Pep, Zidane and Tuchel? The former two went straight from the B team to the A team and Tuchel went from managing Augsburg's reserves to managing Mainz. Neither situation is analogous to the situation that Frank would be facing. Frank is not managing Chelsea's reserves (and so lacks the same insight into the club's current workings, legend or otherwise) and Mainz have never even made the CL, much less be expected to make it the way that Chelsea is. 

39 minutes ago, Sindre said:

And i am not saying we would be challenging Liverpool or City this coming season. The gap is likely too big for that but i 100% believe we should be aiming for a side that can challenge them in a couple of years.

Sure. I never said otherwise, especially if both decline (as teams inevitably do). 

39 minutes ago, Sindre said:

And have people forgot that we will face a ban? We better go all out in the transfer market if we get the suspension held for this summer as we will very likely face the prospect of two windows without being able to sign anyone.

The problem with going 'all out' in the way that some fans seem to want is that you risk becoming like Liverpool 2014/15 or Tottenham 2013/14 - with a squad full of new players who are not used to placing alongside each other and thus lacking cohesion. That's a good recipe for finishing in the EL places.

39 minutes ago, Sindre said:

With Sarri we are heading for a dirt-old, slow and as non-challengers before we know it.

We were already non-challengers when Sarri was appointed. Sarri neither created nor fixed that situation.  

Though I agree that if possible the likes of Willian and Pedro need to be phased out. Pedro in particular is not getting any younger.

39 minutes ago, Sindre said:

People need to wake up and smell the coffee. One of the best players in the world is leaving the club this summer but "we don't have the money"? We do have the money and we should spend it and get back to where we belong.

I don't disagree, but when your best player leaves you are better off spending on quality rather than quantity.

28 minutes ago, DaRick said:

I don't disagree, but when your best player leaves you are better off spending on quality rather than quantity.

One can do both. City and Liverpool have managed to do it and are now miles in front of us despite being far behind just two seasons ago.

And unless we do something about it i believe that, that gap will only get larger and larger.

For me it's not so much about getting results next season. We'll be without Hazard so i don't believe we are going to challenge for anything with Sarri at the helm anyways. But what i don't see from our current manager is a vision for where we are in the future. I think we have gone for the wrong kind of players so far under him (Higuain, Jorginho, Kovacic) who are all slow and not suited to this league and i think we have offered extensions to the wrong kind of players (Old Luiz, Alonso) and we have rejected bids for others that could and should have been sold (Willian).

 

Edited May 11, 20197 yr by Sindre

Until Pep manages a Napoli, Leicester , Dortmund, Monaco to glory his achievements will always have a * beside it in MY opinion, why he choose clubs wisely where he knows he will have unlimited funds.

Manage a club where you have to work with the players and within a budget and lets see how good he is.

The lack of respect Sarri gets when hes been the only manager recently who push Juventus to the limit in a one team league, any other season he wins Serie A.

There is a 16 point gap between Juventus and Napoli now.

Until Pep manages a Napoli, Leicester , Dortmund, Monaco to glory his achievements will always have a * beside it in MY opinion, why he choose clubs wisely where he knows he will have unlimited funds.

Manage a club where you have to work with the players and within a budget and lets see how good he is.

The lack of respect Sarri gets when hes been the only manager recently who push Juventus to the limit in a one team league, any other season he wins Serie A.

There is a 16 point gap between Juventus and Napoli now.

deserves a second chance on paper.  Not sure he will.  Saved his job by the skin of his teeth this year

If he stays people are eventually going to have to get behind him. The constant negativity doesn't help the team.

9 hours ago, Brutos said:

Until Pep manages a Napoli, Leicester , Dortmund, Monaco to glory his achievements will always have a * beside it in MY opinion, why he choose clubs wisely where he knows he will have unlimited funds.

Manage a club where you have to work with the players and within a budget and lets see how good he is.

The lack of respect Sarri gets when hes been the only manager recently who push Juventus to the limit in a one team league, any other season he wins Serie A.

There is a 16 point gap between Juventus and Napoli now.

I totally agree on Pep, he massively disappointed me when he said the next club after Barca would be the challenge when he has to build a team. Then he went to Bayern and then City, teams set up with the best spending power in their respective leagues. I reckon he’d probably do PSG next and that would be all set up for him aswell.