22 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Is games like this and the constant VAR help that have some believing in United for the title.

They mentioned how close United are to the top and put it down to being an open league. The league being open has nothing to do with it, it's because of VAR. If VAR didn't jump in to save United in every game, they wouldn't be anywhere near the top.

2 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Getting a bit fed up with Neville doing the commentary on United games. Every single game becomes all about United. In the first half, it was all doom and gloom in the commentary, then United turn it around and they are laughing and joking. It's the same with the punditry too. At half time, Evra is miserable and everybody is down, then United turn it around and it's all smiles. It's unprofessional.

Sky sport has turned into a united and Liverpool fanfest rather than an actual room of pundits unfortunately. Other than their YouTube videos I’m glad I don’t watch games there anymore. 

It’s incredible how so many teams have failed to take their chances against Man Utd. Palace should have scored 5, West Ham could have had 4 easily, Southampton should have scored 4 or 5. Its only a matter of time until their luck runs out, I look forward to the day United face a team on a good day.

17 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Getting a bit fed up with Neville doing the commentary on United games. Every single game becomes all about United. In the first half, it was all doom and gloom in the commentary, then United turn it around and they are laughing and joking. It's the same with the punditry too. At half time, Evra is miserable and everybody is down, then United turn it around and it's all smiles. It's unprofessional.

I agree Scott, I’ve been saying this for a while regarding Neville, Carragher, and McManaman on BT Sport.

I’m fed up of giving Sky & BT Sport money to have these co-commentators constantly talk about everything from Man Utd or Liverpool’s perspective.

As well as unprofessional I actually think it is also disrespectful to the opposition in Premier League games.

Sky & BT Sport have allowed this to go on for too long and now we are at a point where not only are more people are noticing it but as you said earlier VVD’s injury has more coverage and sympathy than Raul Jimenez’s fractured skull.

Edited December 5, 20205 yr by 2211

22 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Getting a bit fed up with Neville doing the commentary on United games. Every single game becomes all about United. In the first half, it was all doom and gloom in the commentary, then United turn it around and they are laughing and joking. It's the same with the punditry too. At half time, Evra is miserable and everybody is down, then United turn it around and it's all smiles. It's unprofessional.

I mentioned this in the BBC debate on anti chelsea media. It's not BBC that is biased, it's Sky and BT. Because they are commercial entities. 

Sky is completely liverpool and united based. Complete blatant bias. Is becoming a turn off.

Expect a high intensity game 3-0 to Chelsea!!!!!

30 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Actually we can't stop it now exactly because of the Millwall fans. That's my problem. It should have been stopped before it got to this point and replaced with a less divisive action. 

Systemic racism isn't going away and in my opinion having fans boo footballers taking a knee every week for the next 5 years is going to make it worse. 

I don't have a big problem with that. I hope the players continue to stand up for what's important for them and show their disdain for the booing c**ts.

That was refreshing......

1 minute ago, bluedave said:

I don't have a big problem with that. I hope the players continue to stand up for what's important for them and show their disdain for the booing c**ts.

And if this was something other than football I'd be right with you. I just think football is so tribal it needs a different and more subtle approach. 

48 minutes ago, RMH said:

What’s wrong with having a few seconds to show that our club is against racism? Is this really something to complain about? 

Personally, I think the message is in danger of being diluted into the routine of kick offs. Wasn't a complaint but an observation. 

The fact I'm being criticised sort of backs up my point. 

10 minutes ago, Brutos said:

Expect a high intensity game 3-0 to Chelsea!!!!!

FFS 

United are a strange team aren’t they. Despite the wins  the fans can’t be pleased with the performances. Very disjointed and inconsistent 

3 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Personally, I think the message is in danger of being diluted into the routine of kick offs. Wasn't a complaint but an observation. 

The fact I'm being criticised sort of backs up my point. 

Agreed, the message at the start was powerful. It though with time will become a token and people will forget what its meaning is. 

8 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Getting a bit fed up with Neville doing the commentary on United games. Every single game becomes all about United. In the first half, it was all doom and gloom in the commentary, then United turn it around and they are laughing and joking. It's the same with the punditry too. At half time, Evra is miserable and everybody is down, then United turn it around and it's all smiles. It's unprofessional.

Sky is just a stronghold for United and Liverpool. They have far too many Liverpool and United pundits on there. 

8 hours ago, bisright1 said:

I mentioned this in the BBC debate on anti chelsea media. It's not BBC that is biased, it's Sky and BT. Because they are commercial entities. 

Sky is completely liverpool and united based. Complete blatant bias. Is becoming a turn off.

Mourinho said this years ago when he was here, and he was dead right. They never get support from the mainstream football platforms because all they do is hire Liverpool and United pundits. There's no other represntation. So whenever those two teams are wronged, we get one hour segments on how it's a disgrace and things need to change. 

12 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Personally, I think the message is in danger of being diluted into the routine of kick offs. Wasn't a complaint but an observation. 

The fact I'm being criticised sort of backs up my point. 

This now where we are unfortunately, you either fully back it or the insinuations that you are obviously racist begin. I didn't like it being brought in as I dislike any political movements being linked to sport. I have no problem with anti racism messages but its the way the BLM organisation pushed it that worried me. 

Black Lives Matter themselves are a bunch of hypocrites. The entire organization reeks of raging anti-semitism and some of the most high-profile individuals have resorted to quoting Hitler, Farrakhan and other sh*theads to get their "point" across. It's disgusting as far as i'm concerned.

1 hour ago, dkw said:

This now where we are unfortunately, you either fully back it or the insinuations that you are obviously racist begin. I didn't like it being brought in as I dislike any political movements being linked to sport. I have no problem with anti racism messages but its the way the BLM organisation pushed it that worried me. 

 

38 minutes ago, Sindre said:

Black Lives Matter themselves are a bunch of hypocrites. The entire organization reeks of raging anti-semitism and some of the most high-profile individuals have resorted to quoting Hitler, Farrakhan and other sh*theads to get their "point" across. It's disgusting as far as i'm concerned.

This is the problem with the knee. It's just completely.and utterly linked to a controversial political group 

It shouldn't be. They stole it from Colin Kapernakik. Who did the knee in an attempt to create a totally inoffensive protest. 

The message and intention from the PL has nothing to do with BLM group. And they have moved away from them (except for sky who maintains the branding everywhere). 

The knee has nothing to do with BLM. If I was in the ground, I'd applaud. If I was a player, I'd be the first to a knee. The message is important. But the messaging has been rubbish on this and that is the issue and why the knee should have been replaced this season with something not so closely linked to BLM in the public eye. 

 

Edited December 6, 20205 yr by bisright1

2 hours ago, bisright1 said:

 

This is the problem with the knee. It's just completely.and utterly linked to a controversial political group 

It shouldn't be. They stole it from Colin Kapernakik. Who did the knee in an attempt to create a totally inoffensive protest. 

The message and intention from the PL has nothing to do with BLM group. And they have moved away from them (except for sky who maintains the branding everywhere). 

The knee has nothing to do with BLM. If I was in the ground, I'd applaud. If I was a player, I'd be the first to a knee. The message is important. But the messaging has been rubbish on this and that is the issue and why the knee should have been replaced this season with something not so closely linked to BLM in the public eye. 

 

I commend you in trying to explain it....✊🏾✊🏾

However it won't make a difference for the people who already form a opinion based on their inner bias.

And To finish...

 

Black Lives Matter!!!!!!!! 

Don't like it

Makes you uncomfortable 

Makes you realise you not as tolerant as you think you are

Makes you realise you a racist 

Good 🖕🏾🖕🏾

Edited December 6, 20205 yr by Brutos

17 hours ago, enigma said:

West ham miss the Ukrainian player, can't remember his name. Also, Antonio isn't playing either is he? Antonio is a big miss for them. Nevertheless, West Ham cannot keep being good, and Utd can't keep being sh*t. 

Yarmolenko is who I think you mean and not even on the bench.................

2 hours ago, Brutos said:

I commend you in trying to explain it....✊🏾✊🏾

However it won't make a difference for the people who already form a opinion based on their inner bias.

And To finish...

 

Black Lives Matter!!!!!!!! 

Don't like it

Makes you uncomfortable 

Makes you realise you not as tolerant as you think you are

Makes you realise you a racist 

Good 🖕🏾🖕🏾

It's like saying that if you disagree with Antifa, you're a fascist, it's complete rubbish. 

Or because it's in the name, it must be true. Like North Korea must be a democracy because it's called the Democratic Republic of Korea. 

You can disagree with the ideology and movement for many reasons that are nothing to do with race and you and numerous others know it. But this is a pitiful attempt to gaslight. 

Klopp has officially declared us favourites because we have a "bigger squad" as he put it. 

Almost as if he's making excuses for injuries yet again. But he's also trying to put pressure on this team, which is obvious and understandable. 

1 hour ago, Slojo said:

Klopp has officially declared us favourites because we have a "bigger squad" as he put it. 

Almost as if he's making excuses for injuries yet again. But he's also trying to put pressure on this team, which is obvious and understandable. 

Ah the mind games, is he nervous about Wolves today?

1 hour ago, Slojo said:

Klopp has officially declared us favourites because we have a "bigger squad" as he put it. 

Almost as if he's making excuses for injuries yet again. But he's also trying to put pressure on this team, which is obvious and understandable. 

Whilst it is mind games, I’d also use it with the squad to show the players that the current champions and their manager are clearly afraid of us despite beating us already. Motivation if anything. 

Leicester look extremely poor here.