Look at the end of the day we are looking to bring in one of the best strikers in football, one that will give us an extra 20-30 goals a season as well as help elevate the players around him like Timo, Kai, Hakim etc.

Rom will take us to that next level.

Edited August 5, 20214 yr by Malcolm9

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58094323

Lukaku wants to leave Inter if suitable offer is made.

It's happening.

1 hour ago, Bob stark said:

What you said is right but we are talking about player in calibre or Haaland, Lukaku and Kane. 

If you think having tremendous scout can get you player at this quality then good luck. 

I agree. I mean, we've tried that model and couldn't get it to work.

We signed Salah and De Bruyne in the exactly same circumstances as @CFCCAN points out - instead of signing the hottest property at the time we targeted high-peforming players from relatively minor clubs. We just had no pathway for them to be successful.

19 minutes ago, SydneyChelsea said:

I agree. I mean, we've tried that model and couldn't get it to work.

We signed Salah and De Bruyne in the exactly same circumstances as @CFCCAN points out - instead of signing the hottest property at the time we targeted high-peforming players from relatively minor clubs. We just had no pathway for them to be successful.

Not sure it is relevant in this context though. 

Finding cheap future salah or kdb is one thing. Finding cheap superstar kdb or salah is whole another ball game. 

 

 

 

It is the best realistic option. He will score those goals we missed last season, and he has a point to prove at Chelsea. Of course it won't come cheap, but that's the price of winning. City will sign a 100M midfielder they don't really need, at least we will spend money on where it matters.

Well as a Belgian, I've seen him play a lot of games over the years and he would not be one of my first my picks.

But I can absoluetly understand why they want him.

Players like Mbappe and Lewa just aren't possible for Chelsea. 

Haaland looks like he ain't leaving and next season there will be too many other teams that have a bigger chance of signing him. 

Kane has his mind on ManC-I mean isn't feeling to well and needs extra holiday in the US. 

 

So you need to look in to the tier just below the top-elite (which is still elite). 

His profile is something we do not have. A strong player with a very good shot. 

His first touch will never be what Messi or even a Giroud has, but he really has improved a lot.  

Some people think that he is slow, but that I don't get at all. Especially over a longer sprint is he really fast, that with knowing how to use his body. 

Always dangerous. I believe that a lot of people sleep over his pace because he is just a tank. 

His dribble is ok. It's always the same move, but for some reason it mostly works. 

He is just a totally different type than we currently have with his power and efficiency.  

What makes me just want him less than some other elite strikers (apart from constantly pointing at his feet and moaning, even if it's his fault that the ball isn't at his feet), 

is that he has those games that he is totally invisible and he is also not the type to put constant pressure. 

While some other players even if they are not in the game. They still find a way to make them feel present. Extra pressure, working for others and creating space for them (maybe TT can change that?). 

But nobody can deny that he knows how to find the target and that plus his power upfront is something we were missing last season in several games where we played dominant but failed to pull the trigger and lost points.

So as said. not my favo pick, but I can fully understand why TT wants him. 

3 hours ago, Malcolm9 said:

Look at the end of the day we are looking to bring in one of the best strikers in football, one that will give us an extra 20-30 goals a season as well as help elevate the players around him like Timo, Kai, Hakim etc.

Rom will take us to that next level.

I am sure Man u fans felt the same way when they bought him. I believe this deal suits Lukaku more than it suits Chelsea. I would prefer if we waited 12 months and battled for Kane and Haaland. But knowing Chelseas firing policy Tuchel would prefer to have Lukaku now instead of waiting 12 months when he might be out of a job.

1 hour ago, icecoolguy22 said:

It is the best realistic option. He will score those goals we missed last season, and he has a point to prove at Chelsea. Of course it won't come cheap, but that's the price of winning. City will sign a 100M midfielder they don't really need, at least we will spend money on where it matters.

Yes not first choice perhaps not even second yet as a third makes sense.

He will strengthen us and is better than Tammy though can be one-dimensional yet does score goals.

If he links up well with Werner he might even be on for the golden boot.

 

1 hour ago, The Don Antonio said:

I am sure Man u fans felt the same way when they bought him. I believe this deal suits Lukaku more than it suits Chelsea. I would prefer if we waited 12 months and battled for Kane and Haaland. But knowing Chelseas firing policy Tuchel would prefer to have Lukaku now instead of waiting 12 months when he might be out of a job.

Why are you judging him on his stint at United when he was fantastic at West Brom, Everton and Inter.

When he was at United they weren't exactly at their best and were just chucking players together without a true plan / identity. 

The link up play he provides will really benefit our play style, so I think he'll be a great addition and complement what we have. We can go for Haaland next season when his release clause kicks in.

Edited August 5, 20214 yr by Malcolm9

12 hours ago, CFCCAN said:

I'll circle back to one of my earlier posts in the year when I mentioned our so called scouts scattered across the globe.  What I can't fathom out, and maybe I'm naive, is why we are we intending to spend £100 mill on Lukaku or more on Haaland, or even Kane (doubtful but you never know); so the scouts are telling us that with all the countries in the world that play football, there is not a CF out there on the entire planet except these three? None in any clubs South America, none in the clubs playing in the MLS, none anywhere in any club on the European continent; none on the African Continent that we could pick up for half of Lukaku's fee...so what are the scouts actually getting paid to do then?  Just seek out kids? 

I assume the Lukaku deal will eventually be done because we have to compete with City and Utd, I'll leave Liverpool out of the race this year unless they start signing a few attacking players.  TT's problem will be who to leave out.  

Gabriel Barbosa is killing it in brazil, but he struggled massively in europe, it is obviously a massive gamble to bring in a player not acclimatised in europe. 

Any decent African player is already in europe, most end up in france in their teens. 

When has any club of our size ever bought in a player to lead the line totally unproven at a decent level? 

We are an institution now, a global brand, we sign players that either show world class potential, or have already proven themselves at the highest level. 

Imagine if spurs replaced Kane with the top scorer from the saudi league. Everyone would laugh their tits off😂

7 minutes ago, Malcolm9 said:

Why are you judging him on his stint at United when he was fantastic at West Brom, Everton and Inter.

When he was at United they weren't exactly at their best and were just chucking players together without a true plan / identity. 

The link up play he provides will really benefit our play style, so I think he'll be a great addition and complement what we have. We can go for Haaland next season when his release clause kicks in.

We can't forget that when he was at Westbrom and Everton he was known as a flat track bully because he never scored or dominated in against the big teams. To be fair i can't balme him for that since he was in average teams but in Man UTD he was meant to take it to the next level and didn't, even Old ass Ibrahimovic was better than Lukaku. He then went to the best team in Italy and tore the league up. I just dont rate Serie A. It won't suprise me if Giroud tore it up at Ac Milan next season.

I dont think Lukaku is trash but people are acting like we are buying some world class Striker. He is good but not World Class. Hopefully Tuchel improves him

Also i dont agree with your last point about us challenging for Haaland next season if we already have Lukaku

4 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

I agree. I mean, we've tried that model and couldn't get it to work.

We signed Salah and De Bruyne in the exactly same circumstances as @CFCCAN points out - instead of signing the hottest property at the time we targeted high-peforming players from relatively minor clubs. We just had no pathway for them to be successful.

Salah had had already perfomed against us in the chsmpions league, he wasnt plucked from africa or south america. De bruyne again had a good season in the champions league for genk. Neither if these players were good enough to start for us when we signed them. We need a striker now, not one that might be ready in a couple of seasons. 

2 hours ago, The Don Antonio said:

I am sure Man u fans felt the same way when they bought him. I believe this deal suits Lukaku more than it suits Chelsea. I would prefer if we waited 12 months and battled for Kane and Haaland. But knowing Chelseas firing policy Tuchel would prefer to have Lukaku now instead of waiting 12 months when he might be out of a job.

Tuchel could be out of a job in 12 months, and in all honesty, we arent matching Madrid, Barcelona, United, City, or PSG when it comes down to a total package, which it will next summer with his price tag at €70m. 

7 minutes ago, The Don Antonio said:

We can't forget that when he was at Westbrom and Everton he was known as a flat track bully because he never scored or dominated in against the big teams. To be fair i can't balme him for that since he was in average teams but in Man UTD he was meant to take it to the next level and didn't, even Old ass Ibrahimovic was better than Lukaku. He then went to the best team in Italy and tore the league up. I just dont rate Serie A. It won't suprise me if Giroud tore it up at Ac Milan next season.

I dont think Lukaku is trash but people are acting like we are buying some world class Striker. He is good but not World Class. Hopefully Tuchel improves him

Also i dont agree with your last point about us challenging for Haaland next season if we already have Lukaku

Apart from the hat trick against united, winners against Liverpool, City, Arsenal, Spurs and putting us out of FA cup. 

3 minutes ago, big blue said:

Salah had had already perfomed against us in the chsmpions league, he wasnt plucked from africa or south america. De bruyne again had a good season in the champions league for genk. Neither if these players were good enough to start for us when we signed them. We need a striker now, not one that might be ready in a couple of seasons. 

You can't say KDB or Salah weren't good enough to start for us when we bought them, we just had a coach who is terrible with young players and is only good with mature and already made players. If lampard was our coach at that time They both would have been given more opportunities and room to grow  . KDB left us and the next year Man City bought him for  a record fee, do you think he improved exponentially in one year in Germany

Difference between playing for WBA and Everton vs ManU (or other big sides) is your head to head games against similar opponents are different to the games against Big sides. Smaller sides naturally put more men behind the ball and try to slow down the more able team. This is what we encounter every season. I am pretty sure same goes to United.

Chelsea under Lampard and under Tuchel had serious problems scoring in those games even if we created 15-20 chances per game. This is the reason why we are trying to buy us out of the problem. 

We have been excellent under Tuchel against ball playing sides. That is not our problem. We won Madrid sides, City, Liverpool for example with brilliant displays of football. Every side that has space behind their midfield for us and we are good. 

This is a major problem in games against sides fighting in the bottom half of the table. For me players like Ziyech, Havertz, CHO, Alonso and Pulisic are players who are able to score with pure skill in condensed spaces. We lack that pure finisher like Aguero was for City or Suarez was for Barcelona/Atletico. 

For me Lukaku isn't scoring in those condensed spaces. Look at the goals. He is scoring fast attacks. He isn't a top class header of the ball like Lewa or Haaland. 

I don't want to sound like a prat who is not appreciating the club buying a world talent that Lukaku is but buying him is closing the book on Haaland for example. That is it.

And if you buy 28yr old you have to play him if he is fit. With Haaland or a young striker you have time like we did with Kai. 

Anyway if we buy him I am glad we are fixing the apparent problem. I hope he hits the ground running and is everything you want for the money. 

13 minutes ago, big blue said:

Apart from the hat trick against united, winners against Liverpool, City, Arsenal, Spurs and putting us out of FA cup. 

He spent 7 years in England of course he would score against them but on an average he hasn't shown up against big teams. He scored a goal against us in the FA cup but how many times did he score against us over all. Just twice in 13 games.. 

And his hat trick against Man u was against Man u reserves in Fergies Retirement match. Their central defence was Fletcher and Jones.

 

Like i have said i am not saying he is trash I am just saying he isn't world class but hey let me not be a buzz kill. Bask in the glory and celebrate that we are buying Lukaku 

Edited August 5, 20214 yr by The Don Antonio

I can see him scoring goals but taking us to the next level? Not so sure. 

I just hope he doesn't turn out to be the biggest flop like getting a long term injury in his first game

49 minutes ago, The Don Antonio said:

You can't say KDB or Salah weren't good enough to start for us when we bought them, we just had a coach who is terrible with young players and is only good with mature and already made players. If lampard was our coach at that time They both would have been given more opportunities and room to grow  . KDB left us and the next year Man City bought him for  a record fee, do you think he improved exponentially in one year in Germany

Salah wasnt great when he played, he came back from Italy a physical specimen, not that fraile winger he was here. 

De bruyne arrived pre mourinho. He wasnt ready to go straight into the 1st 11 either, he went on loan to Werder Bremen and did well. You can argue that when he returned he shouldve been given more of a chance when Mourinho arrived.

The point still stands, that the champions of europe are not going to find there starting striker for next season, from an obscure club or country. 

14 minutes ago, big blue said:

Salah wasnt great when he played, he came back from Italy a physical specimen, not that fraile winger he was here. 

De bruyne arrived pre mourinho. He wasnt ready to go straight into the 1st 11 either, he went on loan to Werder Bremen and did well. You can argue that when he returned he shouldve been given more of a chance when Mourinho arrived.

The point still stands, that the champions of europe are not going to find there starting striker for next season, from an obscure club or country. 

I wasn't arguing that. But lets not forget that 2 years ago Haaland was a striker for an obscure club and  in an obsscure Country. 😉.. Just pulling your legs mate

Edited August 5, 20214 yr by The Don Antonio

3 hours ago, The Don Antonio said:

I am sure Man u fans felt the same way when they bought him. I believe this deal suits Lukaku more than it suits Chelsea. I would prefer if we waited 12 months and battled for Kane and Haaland. But knowing Chelseas firing policy Tuchel would prefer to have Lukaku now instead of waiting 12 months when he might be out of a job.

Halaand isn’t keen on moving this season though, and next season there will be potentially PSG, Utd, Barca, Madrid, Bayern jostling for his signature. 

40 minutes ago, Deino said:

I can see him scoring goals but taking us to the next level? Not so sure. 

I just hope he doesn't turn out to be the biggest flop like getting a long term injury in his first game

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Personally in Tuchel’s shoes the last thing I would want is an £100m signing. What are the minimum requirements then if we sign Lukaku, a £100m signing? Is he expected to win the league? Will 2nd place against a City squad with potentially 2 £100m additions enough to secure his job? 

128M Euros bid accepted

Edited August 5, 20214 yr by haviet1

I am surprised no one talk about player fit which imo key factor here. What kind of st do you want? A box threat, a runner, an all arounder, etc2. 

We are no longer clean slate team from last few years where Lamp can pretty much decide how post Hazard Chelsea is going to be. With Havertz and Mount you want your st to provide the threat behind so that eliminate Harry Kane. 

Lewa is just too old.

Haaland is an obvious option, if he is attainable I rather wait one year but that really depend on the finance involved. 

Lukaku is an interesting option. He offer three things that we need, run behind, box threat and ability to hold the ball high. If Lukaku is 25 this is a no brainer move, the fact that he is 28 is concerning especially for 100 m

 

2 hours ago, big blue said:

Gabriel Barbosa is killing it in brazil, but he struggled massively in europe, it is obviously a massive gamble to bring in a player not acclimatised in europe. 

Any decent African player is already in europe, most end up in france in their teens. 

When has any club of our size ever bought in a player to lead the line totally unproven at a decent level? 

We are an institution now, a global brand, we sign players that either show world class potential, or have already proven themselves at the highest level. 

Imagine if spurs replaced Kane with the top scorer from the saudi league. Everyone would laugh their tits off😂

Honestly 1 bad example doesn't make the rule, the last Ballon D'or in the PL was Ronaldo and he was signed as a fairly unproven kid. We have found some good players from much lower leagues or more unknown parts of the world football wise in the past and big clubs like Real Madrid and many other have invested in unproven talent from South America many times, Man City have signed Kayky and reports say they are looking to sign 2 more Brazilian young talents and that's just this last few months...

It seems that Inter is preparing to sign Vlahovic for half the price of Lukaku as his replacement:

Lukaku is going to be our top signing in history and we're banking on the fact that he's now super proven but ultimately when the most important big games are played Lukaku has disappeared most of the time so we will be paying him massively just to win small games.

Edited August 5, 20214 yr by Gol15