Raheem the Gun can potentially be a match winner for us.

But he can't do it on his own, and if Tommy T continues with the slow and predictable, low risk, sideways passing game, then Sterling will struggle as much as all the rest. 

 

 

Edited July 22, 20223 yr by nonotnowjim

My biggest fear is with Sterling we are going to revert back to our old ways, ala 2015-2019 football where the only attacking plan is give it to Hazard Sterling. 

And the scary thing is, I can actually see this being an inevitability. 

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

My biggest fear is with Sterling we are going to revert back to our old ways, ala 2015-2019 football where the only attacking plan is give it to Hazard Sterling. 

And the scary thing is, I can actually see this being an inevitability. 

I worry the same. We have seen very little over the last 2 seasons that indicates Tommy T can set up an attacking system that works - so I do worry we will go back to relying on individuals.

Interesting responses here - people worrying that Sterling might be slowed down by Tuchel's offensive approach. That will be interesting to watch. All of the firepower brought into this offense the last couple of seasons only to see it flounder. At some point, one must say it is an indictment of the coach and his philosophy and not the players. We shall see.

I am surprised there is not more excitement about sterling. Player profile wise, he fit exactly what we need. Fantastic dribbler, forward runner, ball carrier, presser. I am pretty sure he will be our biggest gun in no time

17 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

I am surprised there is not more excitement about sterling. Player profile wise, he fit exactly what we need. Fantastic dribbler, forward runner, ball carrier, presser. I am pretty sure he will be our biggest gun in no time

How can there be excitement when more than 60% of the new posts have been negative?

3 hours ago, Deino said:

How can there be excitement when more than 60% of the new posts have been negative?

Strange. Sterling is a fantastic signing, if he is 25, this is 10/10 signing. (his age or more importantly his mileage is my only concern) 

Sterling erling ability to play multiple role will help us big time. He can play as as Hazard or as pedro hence tuchel will no longer has to choose between cho (creator) or Werner (runner) .

This is something that I think Tuchel does well with his signing, heck that even include Lukaku. Rom, sterling, kouli can play multiple role in the team so you can be more flexible in your tactic and adapt to different situation. When you have too many player like timo or jorgi where there is only one role that they can play, it is difficult to adapt when the game change. 

3 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Strange. Sterling is a fantastic signing, if he is 25, this is 10/10 signing. (his age or more importantly his mileage is my only concern) 

Sterling erling ability to play multiple role will help us big time. He can play as as Hazard or as pedro hence tuchel will no longer has to choose between cho (creator) or Werner (runner) .

This is something that I think Tuchel does well with his signing, heck that even include Lukaku. Rom, sterling, kouli can play multiple role in the team so you can be more flexible in your tactic and adapt to different situation. When you have too many player like timo or jorgi where there is only one role that they can play, it is difficult to adapt when the game change. 

I don’t think that many people doubt the suitability of Sterling and how good he can be for us. I’m excited to have got him. But what I do sense is a lack of excitement to the coming season, be that because we are sensing the same slow, sideways football, I don’t know. I’m just not expecting to see much change in the football we play, and that’s not bringing me much hope despite how good Sterling and Koulibaly can be for us.

12 minutes ago, RMH said:

I don’t think that many people doubt the suitability of Sterling and how good he can be for us. I’m excited to have got him. But what I do sense is a lack of excitement to the coming season, be that because we are sensing the same slow, sideways football, I don’t know. I’m just not expecting to see much change in the football we play, and that’s not bringing me much hope despite how good Sterling and Koulibaly can be for us.

I understand the concern but I believe sterling will bring the excitement that you are looking for

For me, player wise next season I am excited to see how conor will play in this team and if Borja stay, will he be better than our last two st ( I have a feeling the answer will be yes and it has nothing to do with Borja)  and of course sterling. 

Team wise, I am curious will Tuchel play even more intense pressing game with 5 sub? 

8 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Strange. Sterling is a fantastic signing, if he is 25, this is 10/10 signing. (his age or more importantly his mileage is my only concern) 

Sterling erling ability to play multiple role will help us big time. He can play as as Hazard or as pedro hence tuchel will no longer has to choose between cho (creator) or Werner (runner) .

This is something that I think Tuchel does well with his signing, heck that even include Lukaku. Rom, sterling, kouli can play multiple role in the team so you can be more flexible in your tactic and adapt to different situation. When you have too many player like timo or jorgi where there is only one role that they can play, it is difficult to adapt when the game change. 

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited enough about the Sterling signing(excuse the pun).

I thought he had wonderful chemistry in the 45mins he had with Havertz. Shame he couldn't score one but very eary days.

Liked what I'm seeing and am hoping for more.

(still hates the way he runs) 

4 hours ago, Bob stark said:

I understand the concern but I believe sterling will bring the excitement that you are looking for

For me, player wise next season I am excited to see how conor will play in this team and if Borja stay, will he be better than our last two st ( I have a feeling the answer will be yes and it has nothing to do with Borja)  and of course sterling. 

Team wise, I am curious will Tuchel play even more intense pressing game with 5 sub? 

I hope you’re right. I’m really excited to see what Sterling, Koulibaly and, as you mention, especially Gallagher can bring to the team. But then you see Tuchel playing him as a DM and you think, right, yeah, more of the same not playing players in their right place for the sake of defensive, control football and all the excitement goes. But then I’m pessimistic today, my optimistic tomorrow will be “oh yeah, right, bring them on!”.

14 hours ago, Bob stark said:

I am surprised there is not more excitement about sterling. Player profile wise, he fit exactly what we need. Fantastic dribbler, forward runner, ball carrier, presser. I am pretty sure he will be our biggest gun in no time

He is better than all of our other forward players, but without the supply, I think he's going to struggle like they do. I would feel the same about any forward joining the club right now. We really need a midfielder that can open teams up. Kante can't do it, Jorginho overhits the ball too often when he tries it, Kovacic has a mental block in this area, Loftus-Cheek's reaction times are too slow, Gallagher........maybe? I don't remember if this was a big part of his game at Palace last season. 

14 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

He is better than all of our other forward players, but without the supply, I think he's going to struggle like they do. I would feel the same about any forward joining the club right now. We really need a midfielder that can open teams up. Kante can't do it, Jorginho overhits the ball too often when he tries it, Kovacic has a mental block in this area, Loftus-Cheek's reaction times are too slow, Gallagher........maybe? I don't remember if this was a big part of his game at Palace last season. 

3 assists in 2,851 minutes of PL action for Palace suggest not ... 

 

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

3 assists in 2,851 minutes of PL action for Palace suggest not ... 

 

Hm, it's a big problem.

There are ways around it though, just look at Liverpool. Their midfielders aren't the most creative midfielders in the world, so what they do is move the ball quickly to their 3 forwards or fall backs who will then link up and pull defences apart with their movement, touch play and crossing. This is something Sterling could benefit from, but it requires a team effort and a different approach from the coach.

We are too busy pissing about for 30 minutes inching towards the oppositions box before playing it all of the way back to the halfway line again. There is no aggression to our attack, no pressure, it's like we think we can just walk the ball in. It's so easy to defend against. Play like this and signing Sterling will be a complete waste of time.

2 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Hm, it's a big problem.

There are ways around it though, just look at Liverpool. Their midfielders aren't the most creative midfielders in the world, so what they do is move the ball quickly to their 3 forwards or fall backs who will then link up and pull defences apart with their movement, touch play and crossing. This is something Sterling could benefit from, but it requires a team effort and a different approach from the coach.

We are too busy pissing about for 30 minutes inching towards the oppositions box before playing it all of the way back to the halfway line again. There is no aggression to our attack, no pressure, it's like we think we can just walk the ball in. It's so easy to defend against. Play like this and signing Sterling will be a complete waste of time.

Agreed. I've thought for a while that the midfield was our weakest link. On paper it looks very nice, all good players, but none of them quite do enough in (a) shielding the defence or (b) enabling the attack, and (c) having real physical presence, power/pace etc.  Their forte is lots of pretty little 5 yard passes to retain possession. I don't think Gallagher fixes it either. Hope I am wrong, but I don't at the moment even see where he will play if Mount and Havertz are in the team. I think this is why TT has tried him in the pivot ... 

39 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Agreed. I've thought for a while that the midfield was our weakest link. On paper it looks very nice, all good players, but none of them quite do enough in (a) shielding the defence or (b) enabling the attack, and (c) having real physical presence, power/pace etc.  Their forte is lots of pretty little 5 yard passes to retain possession. I don't think Gallagher fixes it either. Hope I am wrong, but I don't at the moment even see where he will play if Mount and Havertz are in the team. I think this is why TT has tried him in the pivot ... 

We could solve our creative problems, as well as making Munk a happy camper, in one simple signing. 

Happy enough with his choice of 17 with the Hazard vibes, no way Kante was going to be stripped of his number and our American-poster boy isn’t losing the 10 shirt either, so it is what it is.  

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11050613/Chelsea-unveil-mural-new-signing-Raheem-Sterling-Stamford-Bridge.html

 

On 23/07/2022 at 23:05, Sexyfootball said:

Agreed. I've thought for a while that the midfield was our weakest link. On paper it looks very nice, all good players, but none of them quite do enough in (a) shielding the defence or (b) enabling the attack, and (c) having real physical presence, power/pace etc.  Their forte is lots of pretty little 5 yard passes to retain possession. I don't think Gallagher fixes it either. Hope I am wrong, but I don't at the moment even see where he will play if Mount and Havertz are in the team. I think this is why TT has tried him in the pivot ... 

Liverpool creates the space in attack for Salah and others where they simply have 10 yards to work with and to take on players. Our players are instructed to play how they play, when we were chasing Real Madrid the gameplan was different, the ball moved faster and we managed to come back into it though we lost in extra time...

Point being that our midfielders do what they are told and this was evident from the first match Tuchel managed after 1 training session when we made some possession records vs Wolves, we simply didn't want to lose the ball and that's exactly how we managed to not lose many matches but it's not just about the buildup, when we don't have possession we can concede goals from half chances and when we do make chances to score our forwards simply don't score them.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/torverteilungPositionen/wettbewerb/GB1/plus/?saison_id=2021

We were one of the worst teams when it came down to our forwards scoring goals last season, only 19/76 goals in total came from our frontline, Liverpool's attack scored 69 goals and their midfielders have at best case scenario similar assist numbers in comparison to our midfielders. The difference is staggering and the personnel can't be the main factor there. E.g. Gallagher scored the same amount of PL goals as Lukaku last season while playing for Palace, is he going to be given the same role for us or is he going to be playing pivot far deeper in the midfield? There are ways to use the players in the best way and then there is also a way to waste them...

Is there a possibility that Barcelona is hijacking this transfer ? 😂

I think TT will fek up Gallagher , we all wanted him back ,now we've got him he'll be played out of position then we'll all slate him

and say he should be gone . Welcome home✌️

12 hours ago, Gol15 said:

Liverpool creates the space in attack for Salah and others where they simply have 10 yards to work with and to take on players. Our players are instructed to play how they play, when we were chasing Real Madrid the gameplan was different, the ball moved faster and we managed to come back into it though we lost in extra time...

Point being that our midfielders do what they are told and this was evident from the first match Tuchel managed after 1 training session when we made some possession records vs Wolves, we simply didn't want to lose the ball and that's exactly how we managed to not lose many matches but it's not just about the buildup, when we don't have possession we can concede goals from half chances and when we do make chances to score our forwards simply don't score them.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/torverteilungPositionen/wettbewerb/GB1/plus/?saison_id=2021

We were one of the worst teams when it came down to our forwards scoring goals last season, only 19/76 goals in total came from our frontline, Liverpool's attack scored 69 goals and their midfielders have at best case scenario similar assist numbers in comparison to our midfielders. The difference is staggering and the personnel can't be the main factor there. E.g. Gallagher scored the same amount of PL goals as Lukaku last season while playing for Palace, is he going to be given the same role for us or is he going to be playing pivot far deeper in the midfield? There are ways to use the players in the best way and then there is also a way to waste them...

Exactly that. Also, since we play with two midfielders instead of 3 like Liverpool and city our midfielders need to work much harder to maintain balance in the middle. 

9 minutes ago, hawkster said:

I think TT will fek up Gallagher , we all wanted him back ,now we've got him he'll be played out of position then we'll all slate him

and say he should be gone . Welcome home✌️

I'm not so sure that he isn't a bit over-hyped in all honesty ... 

Yes he scored 8 goals last year, but none after 23rd February, and only 3 assists all season, and he didn't register a single assist after 20th November.

Expecting him to be the answer to our midfield creativity is a big stretch in my opinion ... he is probably competing with Mount for a starting position, and I don't think he gets in ahead of Mount if Mount is fit.

7 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

I'm not so sure that he isn't a bit over-hyped in all honesty ... 

Yes he scored 8 goals last year, but none after 23rd February, and only 3 assists all season, and he didn't register a single assist after 20th November.

Expecting him to be the answer to our midfield creativity is a big stretch in my opinion ... he is probably competing with Mount for a starting position, and I don't think he gets in ahead of Mount if Mount is fit.

Stats are great and I don't necessarily disagree but at least at Palace he had his head up and was looking forward. Im sure he's not the complete answer to our issues 

but I think if he makes the England squad playing as he does then he maybe is doing something right . Kova ,Mount and Kante are great who backs them up and who changes things when need ?😁

 

19 hours ago, Kantesmini said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11050613/Chelsea-unveil-mural-new-signing-Raheem-Sterling-Stamford-Bridge.html

 

They’ve actually painted that on?, thought it was photoshop.. not a fan tbh, bit small time.