The only reason we feel in control is because teams know we can hurt them passing around 60 yards from the goal..

TT is fooling us.. we ready knew how to play a back 3.. looks we have completely forgotten a 433.. a proper coach shed be able to do better than the shutdown of the first 45..

So much doom and gloom on here honestly.

Clearly we were right to not go for Gabriel Jesus and stick with "generational talent" havertz.

We still have super Thomas tuchel though guys and gals. Is not all bad.

9 minutes ago, Term_X said:

I’m sure our new American owners will be pleased with us showing them up like this in their own backyard 😅

Well although he may not be happy about the performance, he will be happy about the crowd size, which is a record 67,000 so he can see the $$$$.  No doubt like the NFL there will be a call for at least one EPL game or even 2 to be played in the US every season.

11 minutes ago, Jangz said:

A little bit if coaching .. some patterns of play would have helped.. 

A new DM will be more helpful than coaching 

Well at least the #26 shirt has been inherited by someone who knows how to play in it and what it stands for.

Kk looks a unit 

KK has been good

On the bright side Koulibaly has looked good.

2 minutes ago, CFCCAN said:

Well although he may not be happy about the performance, he will be happy about the crowd size, which is a record 67,000 so he can see the $$$$.  No doubt like the NFL there will be a call for at least one EPL game or even 2 to be played in the US every season.

American fans like winners. We need to win to make the most that.

5 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Jason Cundy was right on TalkSport the other day, we are ill prepared for the new season. I made excuses for us the other day saying it is only pre-season, but we just look way behind so many teams right now.

We had Kennedy and Barkley starting for us in pre-season 

chelsea fan run onto the pitch demanding his money back

kouli has been a one man defence

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Embarrassing .....

Now thats a f**king Hammering, with maybe 1 bright spark

And this is why TT wants new defenders. 

Really looking forward the the new season...

Didn’t go to sleep, still had a nightmare. Thanks Chels!

We have failed to threaten them even for a single moment throughout the match.. too much gap between midfield and attack.. none of the formations seems to be working... at this pace this season will be a disaster..  for all the blame on players.. how many of the opposition today would make our first 11..

The coach has failed to find a solution for 18 months and has been virtually living of a UCL win.. he can talk about desire/hunger etc.. but the fact is it is his coaching that has not been good enough as he has failed to find solutions despite so much talent at his disposal..

1 minute ago, jbdiver said:

And this is why TT wants new defenders. 

We need a whole new squad. Very little talent. We've assembled such a mediocre team.

sh*te from start to finish. Literally no aspect of our play was any good at all. Hard to say whether our GK, defence, midfield or attack is the biggest concern.

We've got a lot to work on, 433 is still experimental and the First XI still needs to be finalized. 

We lost the Florida Cup, oh dear

Onwards and upwards

Only preseason but we look rubbish. And when you think we looked rubbish for much of the second half of last season it is not a good pattern. I think we are in for a rough season ahead and I am not sure Tuchel will last. So far I haven't seen any evidence that he can play another system beyond the fairly negative 5 at the back, and that has gradually been found out.

Definitely can't argue with that scoreline. Arsenal, fitter, stronger, intelligent on the ball, good going forward whereas we were 2nd rate all over the park.  If Roman was here looking at a performance like this pre-season or not TT would be looking over his shoulder.  I wasn't the fact we got beat, in was the manner in which we were defeated.  Blame has to be had all around with TT taking a majority of the blame.  

I wish I could say 'It's just preseason" but we really look way behind in terms of fitness. Not sure whether the board change had anything to do with the length of players vacations/the time they came back to training but we really need to pick things up. 4-0 loss isn't what I would expect three games into our pre-season.