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Chelsea v West Ham Utd (PL) Sat 3rd Sep 2022 15:00 GMT

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17 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

We had 10 corners.
We get a lot of corners in games, especially with our wing back formation.
We need to score more goals from corners.

you get 10 corners you should have a goal to show from it.


We conceded a goal from a corner today.

This is something that can be worked on in training.

Also, we need to get more free-kicks on the edge of the box. AND who is our dead ball and free kick specialist?

And Why doesnt James take corners?

We don't have one single player capable of taking a good corner. Every delivery is either bad or plain awful. Even Reece.

Now Marcos is gone nobody can take a decent free kick either.

Is why myself, @Valerie and @Munkworth have been campaigning so passionately for us to sign James Ward-Prowse...

27 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

We had 10 corners.
We get a lot of corners in games, especially with our wing back formation.
We need to score more goals from corners.

you get 10 corners you should have a goal to show from it.


We conceded a goal from a corner today.

This is something that can be worked on in training.

Also, we need to get more free-kicks on the edge of the box. AND who is our dead ball and free kick specialist?

And Why doesnt James take corners?

We had about 10 corners in the first half at Everton. James took quite a few. All of them came to nothing (well, some of them led to another poorly-taken corner).

We are absymal at set-pieces, whether we are attacking or defending. Our attacking set-pieces seem more likely to produce goals for the opposition than for us.

Missed the game today but read through the match chat....oh dear not a lot of happy campers given yet another shocking sleepy performance, but glad to see that Munkworth's cat showed up which is more I can about our 'strikers' .  Sounds like TT has his work cut out trying to figure out that playing 8 defensive minded players doesn't get you goals.  When I saw the team sheet, it had disaster written all over it and it seems may well had been so had it not been for VAR.  

Well next weeks early kick off against Fulham following a midweek CL game should push TT closer to the door I reckon as I will be surprised if we get anything from a decent Fulham side, although Todd and co don't seem like they would be as so ruthless as Roman, unless he's got some one lined up but given who's out there I don't see him making a move before the WC unless we are languishing in the bottom half.  

1 hour ago, CFCCAN said:

Missed the game today but read through the match chat....oh dear not a lot of happy campers given yet another shocking sleepy performance, but glad to see that Munkworth's cat showed up which is more I can about our 'strikers' .  Sounds like TT has his work cut out trying to figure out that playing 8 defensive minded players doesn't get you goals.  When I saw the team sheet, it had disaster written all over it and it seems may well had been so had it not been for VAR.  

Well next weeks early kick off against Fulham following a midweek CL game should push TT closer to the door I reckon as I will be surprised if we get anything from a decent Fulham side, although Todd and co don't seem like they would be as so ruthless as Roman, unless he's got some one lined up but given who's out there I don't see him making a move before the WC unless we are languishing in the bottom half.  

I think this could be a catalyst for a better performance next week.. but we need more attackers .. we ended with Broja mount havertz and sterling on the pitch .. we need these 4 .. with Auba and pulisic and Ziyech around not too bad.. 

so it’s on to TT to find a system that accommodates these 4.

Crucial 3 points, a sloppy but improved performance. Unlike last game, at least we stepped up when we were behind. Chiwell goal was out of no where, but at least 2 players made the run ( didn't see any of that in first 45), and Chiwell had the lovely touch and finish. The change in the team was necessary, not saying those started were great, but at least it got us some momentum, and those dropped actually put in a decent cameo. For once Havertz actually made a good run in the box and didn't miss kick it to row C. We got luck a few times, most notably that shocking Jorginho error resulted in shot on the post. That's the kind of error get a manager sacked, imagine the headline ' Tuchel sub cost Chelsea 3 points'. Mendy is at the crisis point Kepa was 2 years ago, a half hearted slap gave them the goal on the platter. He was not going to get the ball for their second goal, but he was fouled, so right decision via VAR but Mendy was lucky he got fouled. Everytime he touches the ball, it's almost the inevitable feeling he will muck it up. He needs to be dropped, for the team and his own sanity.  Aside from the GK, the 3 central defenders actually had a good game. With Fofana's energy and speed, Silva doesn't have to chase around or be 1 on 1, he was at the right place the right time to nullify most threats.

15 hours ago, dkw said:

this angles makes the contact look a lot more substantial and a lot worse.

 

I could see that on MOTD last night though the pundits chose to ignore it..............

7 hours ago, CFCCAN said:

Missed the game today but read through the match chat....oh dear not a lot of happy campers given yet another shocking sleepy performance, but glad to see that Munkworth's cat showed up which is more I can about our 'strikers' .  Sounds like TT has his work cut out trying to figure out that playing 8 defensive minded players doesn't get you goals.  When I saw the team sheet, it had disaster written all over it and it seems may well had been so had it not been for VAR.  

Well next weeks early kick off against Fulham following a midweek CL game should push TT closer to the door I reckon as I will be surprised if we get anything from a decent Fulham side, although Todd and co don't seem like they would be as so ruthless as Roman, unless he's got some one lined up but given who's out there I don't see him making a move before the WC unless we are languishing in the bottom half.  

Don't see it thankfully.

But if you get your way and TT is shown the door, who is the manager to be appointed who will miraculously turn things around?

9 hours ago, TheCeleryKing said:

We had 10 corners.
We get a lot of corners in games, especially with our wing back formation.
We need to score more goals from corners.

you get 10 corners you should have a goal to show from it.


We conceded a goal from a corner today.

This is something that can be worked on in training.

Also, we need to get more free-kicks on the edge of the box. AND who is our dead ball and free kick specialist?

And Why doesnt James take corners?

We had a period a while back where we were looking dangerous on corners. Silva, Rudiger, Zouma were timing runs and getting on the end of good deleveries. But we seem to be back to square one and must be the worst team in the league. We get corner after corner and nothing. But a team can get their first corner of a game against us and you just know we will do well not to concede. One of the things that needs to be addressed urgently as it's costing us so many points.

19 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

I could see that on MOTD last night though the pundits chose to ignore it..............

Same thing i said. It is obvious that Bowen left his left leg in on Mendy . He could have easily leapt over mendy if he wanted to . Obviously it  wasn't enough to injure Mendy but you don't have to injure your opponent for it to be a foul

Of course West Ham is furious, for the whole game they tried to rough us up, and for once a foul was called correctly. Whether Mendy was going to get there and irrelevant. Attacker lays a foot in GK is automatically a foul, more obvious than hair pulling. Just because we got the VAR call for once, it's the worth decision of the year. I totally expect an apology from Mike Dean tomorrow and a free point to West Ham.

I was rewatching the highlights and one thing that isn't mentioned enough in the media is Ben's clever finish. Fantastic first touch and he had the presence of mind to guide it between the keeper's legs at such a tough angle. I remember the commentators complaining that Moyes would be furious giving up such an easy goal. And they would have waxed lyrical if it were a pool or city player.

1 hour ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Of course West Ham is furious, for the whole game they tried to rough us up, and for once a foul was called correctly. Whether Mendy was going to get there and irrelevant. Attacker lays a foot in GK is automatically a foul, more obvious than hair pulling. Just because we got the VAR call for once, it's the worth decision of the year. I totally expect an apology from Mike Dean tomorrow and a free point to West Ham.

The laws are quite simply you kick a player and it’s a free kick and Bowens foot certainly came into contact with Mendy 

The one positive from yesterday was our midfield solidity, and its no surprise it came as a result of Jorginho being off the pitch. I want to see more of this. 

That being said, there is a lack of creativity and directness from the midfield. If we are going the Liverpool route in having a strong, and hard working midfield, we need to figure out ways to move the ball quicker to the attackers and wingbacks. 

 

 

13 hours ago, axman2526 said:

We don't have one single player capable of taking a good corner. Every delivery is either bad or plain awful. Even Reece.

Now Marcos is gone nobody can take a decent free kick either.

Is why myself, @Valerie and @Munkworth have been campaigning so passionately for us to sign James Ward-Prowse...

Ward? no.

Yeah we need something, but he aint it.

13 hours ago, TheCeleryKing said:

We had 10 corners.
We get a lot of corners in games, especially with our wing back formation.
We need to score more goals from corners.

you get 10 corners you should have a goal to show from it.


We conceded a goal from a corner today.

This is something that can be worked on in training.

Also, we need to get more free-kicks on the edge of the box. AND who is our dead ball and free kick specialist?

And Why doesnt James take corners?

Our corners suck. Have you watched us at corners? The best taker is Ziyech, the rest is a gamble. 

Even James has an atrocious corner for every 3 average ones

7 minutes ago, mwblue10 said:

Saul over Tchouameni 

They claim he was the one to prioritise Lukaku over Tchouameni that summer, and to go after the latter the next year. He also felt that Saul was a good stop gap and apparently stated he would transition well in the Prem.

 

6 hours ago, The Don Antonio said:

Same thing i said. It is obvious that Bowen left his left leg in on Mendy . He could have easily leapt over mendy if he wanted to . Obviously it  wasn't enough to injure Mendy but you don't have to injure your opponent for it to be a foul

What gets me is the decision is nowhere near as bad as the cucurella hair pull but the level of outcry is far louder for West Ham. Chelsea fans actually got mocked/dismissed for the angst over Taylor - not that I thought a petition was the way to go. Pointless exercise which only generates negative/pisstake emotion towards us.

2 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

They claim he was the one to prioritise Lukaku over Tchouameni that summer, and to go after the latter the next year. He also felt that Saul was a good stop gap and apparently stated he would transition well in the Prem.

 

Ahh ok, we’re saying the same thing

9 hours ago, Nibs said:

Don't see it thankfully.

But if you get your way and TT is shown the door, who is the manager to be appointed who will miraculously turn things around?

Sir John God. 

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