40 minutes ago, Argo said:

Fun fact, our new GK coach was the keeper for Boro in the 97 FA Cup final.

So he will concede in the first minute.

6 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

This is a good sign. The thing I liked most about us under Tuchel was how well we played agains the top sides, even if the football against the lower teams wasn't as good.

I think it would be fair to add, that we ONLY played against the top sides. Our performances against the "lesser" sides was often pitiful. 

41 minutes ago, coombsie said:

I think it would be fair to add, that we ONLY played against the top sides. Our performances against the "lesser" sides was often pitiful. 

I think the system he setup with is good against sides that play football, where there are spaces behind lines.

Last season we played MU at OT where they decided to just sit back and they easily kept a clean sheet. We scored only with Alonso's world class strike only to concede minutes after by Ronaldo. With able players like MU have this system is pretty easy to suffocate. 

Teams like Brighton and Leeds are playing much more progressive football. They suffocate us by pressing high up. It is not easy but if successful you can beat a talented side like we are. Loss to Leeds was down to bad blood in the team. We can play them off the park and probably will in our next meeting. 

11 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

I find it interesting that the media reception to Potter is more positive than when Tuchel came. It took Tuchel wining the UCL and beating Man City three times before pundits began taking him seriously despite his resumé. I remember Ferdinand and co all having doubts about him when he came in. On the other hand, Potter hasn't won anything and people are already touting him as the 'chosen one' for Chelsea.

Maybe just maybe that Tuchel came to replace Lamp. 

 

7 hours ago, just said:

hopefully, gets them playing more free-flowing, expressive, entertaining football.

Can’t stand this phrase.

These are buzzwords that you’ve heard ever since Roman arrived at the club.

“Oh, it would be so great if our football was free-flowing” whatever the hell free-flowing even means.

We’ve sacked a quartett of top-class manager in a naive pursuit of this and it’s of course always gone to sh*t. Will it be different this time? Of course not.

20 minutes ago, Sindre said:

Can’t stand this phrase.

These are buzzwords that you’ve heard ever since Roman arrived at the club.

“Oh, it would be so great if our football was free-flowing” whatever the hell free-flowing even means.

We’ve sacked a quartett of top-class manager in a naive pursuit of this and it’s of course always gone to sh*t. Will it be different this time? Of course not.

You are such a positive person...

I think at best Liverpool have played some highly-entertaining games in the last 3 seasons. Winning ones as well.

City as a side is not that entertaining for me at least. It is highly drilled and super-disciplined football. Defending with the ball against lesser sides is so boring. Something we have done under TT and probably something we are going to see with Potter as well.

I think we were very good/entertaining under Frank for that period when we won 13-15 games in a row. Just before it all went to sh*te. 

 

13 hours ago, BS66 said:

You make it sound like we lost our best 4 players for the whole season which is absurd! Exactly who are those players and many games were we without all of them? 

Tuchel’s tactics, with and without a pretty full squad have been poor and he didn’t even seem to know what his strongest team was so those that try to blame things on injuries and the loss of the best players are covering for those lousy tactics. If you think we’ve played well, or even adequately under the circumstances, in the last 30+ league games you’re entitled to that opinion just like I’m entitled to my opinion of it being some of the most boring football I’ve seen Chelsea play in 56 years with no hope of Tuchel changing that any time soon. 
 

We lost Chilwell in Nov, Reece, Kante and Kova keeps getting injured every few games. Those are among our best players. The patterns Tuchel employ needs good wingbacks to stretch the game and add attacking impetus. It's literally why Pep said Chelsea are dangerous.

The 7-0 dismantling of Norwich is boring too? Across 38 games we have the 3rd most goals and conceded the 3rd least, hencewhy we deserved 3rd and CL places despite the fact that Tuchel had to become the face of Chelsea amidst a geopolitical PR horror show with the club in danger of liquidation whilst battling a divorce. Name me a manager that can operate smoothly under those circumstances.

You keep bringing up the most boring football in 56 years? Please, the Mourinho 15/16 when we were in danger of relegation, the AVB days, the Scolari days, the so-called Sarriball(where the problem of domination without shots started), Lampard's football in the 2nd year and when Conte gave up on the league were more boring.

You are entitled to your opinion but you don't have to cherrypick form tables taken at various times just to discredit the ex-manager. Over 38 league games, the stats proved that Tuchel is the 3rd best manager in the league

52 minutes ago, evissy said:

Loss to Leeds was down to bad blood in the team.

Mendy Messi trying to dribble out of his 6yd box is not bad blood.

1 minute ago, Deino said:

We lost Chilwell in Nov, Reece, Kante and Kova keeps getting injured every few games. Those are among our best players. The patterns Tuchel employ needs good wingbacks to stretch the game and add attacking impetus. It's literally why Pep said Chelsea are dangerous.

The 7-0 dismantling of Norwich is boring too? Across 38 games we have the 3rd most goals and conceded the 3rd least, hencewhy we deserved 3rd and CL places despite the fact that Tuchel had to become the face of Chelsea amidst a geopolitical PR horror show with the club in danger of liquidation whilst battling a divorce. Name me a manager that can operate smoothly under those circumstances.

You keep bringing up the most boring football in 56 years? Please, the Mourinho 15/16 when we were in danger of relegation, the AVB days, the Scolari days, the so-called Sarriball(where the problem of domination without shots started), Lampard's football in the 2nd year and when Conte gave up on the league were more boring.

You are entitled to your opinion but you don't have to cherrypick form tables taken at various times just to discredit the ex-manager. Over 38 league games, the stats proved that Tuchel is the 3rd best manager in the league

The forum has a cherry picker free to hire, can you tell ?

9 hours ago, enigma said:

– Graham Potter has masterminded victories against sides managed by Arsene Wenger, Mikel Arteta, Marcelo Bielsa, Ralf Rangnick, Erik ten Hag, Brendan Rodgers, Jurgen Klopp, Pep Guardiola, Antonio Conte, Mauricio Pochettino, Jose Mourinho and Rafael Benitez.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. 

That's football, every team will beat any team at some point. 

9 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

This is a good sign. The thing I liked most about us under Tuchel was how well we played agains the top sides, even if the football against the lower teams wasn't as good.

True that. 

The sense of dread I used to feel playing big teams after a few games against big sides under him, I never had again. 

Never thought we were going to go and smash them but always had the mindset of we can beat them just as they can beat us, and would give just as we received. A neutral calm feeling rather than blind hope And prayer of it not being too bad a performance. 

9 hours ago, icecoolguy22 said:

It's nice we have a manager getting so media love, let's hope a few 50-50 VAR calls going our way too. It is a huge step up, and more pressure on him than our last English manager since the owner just bought 250M worth of players with or without his support.

Don't want them to like us though. When they do start to see us as that it's also because they sum us up to be a nice, likeable and harmless (key word) team. 

Love to be hated because they know when we come into town we come through and f**k sh*t up. 

Loved how under Mourinho, we were regular party poopers. Any club or manager had a big milestone to celebrate and came up against us, more often than not didn't celebrate that milestone after the game as they would be licking their wounds from the inflicted damage. 

The press seem to be making a lot of Conor Gallagher's potential resurgence under "Harry."  Did I miss something? is he a massive Gallagher fan, as I don't remember Brighton being linked with him during the window. Apparently, he is exactly what Potter requires in a defensive mid position and is expected to become one of the first names on the team sheet. I have to say that Conor will need to do a lot better and show far more restraint than he did in his first couple of games.

9 minutes ago, abister1 said:

Don't want them to like us though. When they do start to see us as that it's also because they sum us up to be a nice, likeable and harmless (key word) team. 

Love to be hated because they know when we come into town we come through and f**k sh*t up. 

Loved how under Mourinho, we were regular party poopers. Any club or manager had a big milestone to celebrate and came up against us, more often than not didn't celebrate that milestone after the game as they would be licking their wounds from the inflicted damage. 

True to a point, but that Jose's team was from another era, you dont get many players like that who embrace the hate anymore. Even in Jose's second coming, his siege mentality and everyone hates us thing only worked for about a season.

4 minutes ago, coombsie said:

Apparently, he is exactly what Potter requires in a defensive mid position and is expected to become one of the first names on the team sheet. 

If this is true, then I don't expect Potter's tenure to be a long one 🙂 

6 minutes ago, coombsie said:

under "Harry."  

Is it Harry then? Makes me flash on Rednapp and that's unfortunate even if I do have a soft spot for the reprobate.

22 minutes ago, abister1 said:

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. 

That's football, every team will beat any team at some point. 

The devil is in the detail, as they say.

For example, Potter has managed Brighton in 6 fixtures against Guardiola. The only one he won was a home fixture when Man City went 1 up after 2 minutes, then had Cancelo sent off (straight red) after 10 minutes, then went 2 up early in the second half, but Brighton then scored 3 times in the last 40 minutes against the 10 men to win 3-2. City already had the league title wrapped up. Commendable result all the same, but some important context none the less.

In the other 5 games against City, 11 vs 11, he's lost 5-0 and 4-1 at home, and 1-0, 3-0 and 4-0 away 🙂 

13 minutes ago, ozboy said:

Is it Harry then? Makes me flash on Rednapp and that's unfortunate even if I do have a soft spot for the reprobate.

Even though I am a Graeme, I find it hard to use Graham for Potter and am sure that he will soon be called "Harry", Redknapp was 'arry' anyway 😉

G-man, Pots, The Pot, Mr. Graham Potter...He doesn't remind me of Harry Potter in any way. Nor do I know anything about Harry Potter...

Here is a description of a potter https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/potter/. I am hoping we are not very soon all asking the question: What does a potter do? 🤣

9 hours ago, just said:

 gives them a system they can understand and execute and which  hopefully, hopefully, gets them playing more free-flowing, expressive, entertaining football.

Hopefully I am wrong but I am not sure this team can play free flowing football and still get result. 

I have sympathy for TT. This season he has used more of his 442 hybrid and it is clearly more offensive than our usual 343. 

There are two problem though. 

1. Even with more offensive system, our offense does not look much better 

2. Clearly our midfield and our defense cannot handle being exposed like this. 

 

 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, evissy said:

What does a potter do? 🤣

Weve had the Tinkerman, now we have the Potterman, tinkering around and pottering around are very similar pastimes to men of an age.

I think Potter, Howe and Dyche have been three of the most overlooked managers in the league for what they've done with the little they had at their disposal. I am surprised Dyche hasn't been snatched up by a decent sized club yet. His style of play may not be a great watch, but he gets results. 

Edited September 12, 20223 yr by enigma

God I wish he was called Graham Davis or something because these Harry Potter jokes I've seen everywhere for the past week are doing my head in 😂

10 minutes ago, enigma said:

I think Potter, Howe and Dyche have been three of the most overlooked managers in the league for what they've done with the little they had at their disposal. I am surprised Dyche hasn't been snatched up by a decent sized club yet. His style of play may not be a great watch, but he gets results. 

Dyche, a bit like big Sam A you could argue, is going to be a victim of his own success and pigeonholed into a “relegation fighter” role. 
 

fully expect him to be on the manager merry go round for the next 5 years 

3 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

God I wish he was called Graham Davis or something because these Harry Potter jokes I've seen everywhere for the past week are doing my head in 😂

Meme levels.