16 minutes ago, Argo said:

We could have a young player that plays like Bakayoko while drunk and they'd still be the conspiracy he'll KDB us when we sell him.

Mate it’s baffling, I can’t remember an academy player we didn’t transition to the first team that we have regretted selling.

KdB and Salah are players we bought so outside of those two all the academy players we sold have ended up exactly where I expected them to be.

 

13 minutes ago, El regreso said:

Mate it’s baffling, I can’t remember an academy player we didn’t transition to the first team that we have regretted selling.

KdB and Salah are players we bought so outside of those two all the academy players we sold have ended up exactly where I expected them to be.

 

You also said Billy Gilmour was a Championship level player yet here he is playing in Europe. 

There are 2 people in the thread complaining that others always talk about KDB. And yet they're the only 2 who have mentioned him 🤣

Roberto Carlos. 

Franco Baresi. 

This is an Ian Maatsen thread right? 😅

The point about this is there are plenty of short fullback. Mourinho used to complain his full backs were short. One reason you get to be a full back is because you are short and therefore unsuitable to play in the centre. But you are fast, skilful and have a big engine that lets you run all game.

In the end good attacking teams will find ways to reach their wingers high up the pitch whether it's down the line, through ball or over the top. The mark of a good full back defensively is not whether they can head the ball, even at corners, its whether they can be in the right position and show the winger inside or out and in general manage the game out there. 

Who give a rats whether Maatsen is going to be Ashley Cole, Baresi (who of course played centrally) or Roberto Carlos. Those guys were truly exceptional. The question is (i) if Maatsen was taller would he be playing for Chelsea and (ii) is he good enough? And the answer is that left to Poch we will never find out because he just never played him at left back. From memory not even in pre season. If he had played him and he had done poorly this thread wouldn't be happening. The complaint is he wasn't given a chance and that is bad not only for Maatsen, but also for Colwill and as a result its bad for Chelsea.

Definitely make more sense if short fullbacks were played as halfbacks.

Another assist in the bag playing at LB..

Some people on here are beginning to look almost as stupid as the genius Pooch himself.

Maatsen was LB in a 4-3-3

 

Dortmund manager obviously an idiot. He should have been RW.

9 minutes ago, Zeta said:

Dortmund manager obviously an idiot. He should have been RW.

Don't worry, as soon as he finds out Maatsen is only 5 foot 6 inches tall he'll be straight out of the side 👍

1 hour ago, Gonoir Beniashile said:

Some people on here are beginning to look almost as stupid as the genius Pooch himself.

Maybe save the sweeping statements until he plays teams outside the bottom two, or keeps his spot when the regular left back returns.

31 minutes ago, Argo said:

Maybe save the sweeping statements until he plays teams outside the bottom two, or keeps his spot when the regular left back returns.

You're gutted that a Chelsea player is doing well.

Bizarre.

Just look at this as an example of what a terrible left back Maatsen is. Somebody ought to tell Dortmund he's only 5 foot 6 so they can play him on the right wing instead. Thank goodness we've so many experts on here.

https://streamin.me/v/29eab1cc

4 minutes ago, Gonoir Beniashile said:

Just look at this as an example of what a terrible left back Maatsen is. Somebody ought to tell Dortmund he's only 5 foot 6 so they can play him on the right wing instead. Thank goodness we've so many experts on here.

https://streamin.me/v/29eab1cc

Not going to get into the whole height debate, I actually like him and think he’s a decent player. 
That clip maybe shows the good and the bad. Started off with an awful pass to the opposition which could have ended in a goal only to recover the ball and play a really good through ball. 
Could easily have been Zero but ended up Hero.

1 hour ago, Gonoir Beniashile said:

You're gutted that a Chelsea player is doing well.

Bizarre.

If we’re honest it is rather unnatural nowadays. He needs to return to the Cobham treatment room like all our great players!

1 hour ago, Gonoir Beniashile said:

You're gutted that a Chelsea player is doing well.

Bizarre.

Interesting how over emotional you're getting over a player playing for another team getting criticised but a player actually playing for the club is considered fair game for a pile on in you're eyes.

https://www.theshedend.com/topic/36431-motm-vs-fulham-h-pl/#comment-1983067

Isn’t Sancho also doing well now? Safe to say Bundesliga isn’t the greatest of barometers.

29 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Isn’t Sancho also doing well now? Safe to say Bundesliga isn’t the greatest of barometers.

Good job we didn't sign Haaland or Bellingham from the sh*tty old Bundesliga isn't it? 😂

35 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Isn’t Sancho also doing well now? Safe to say Bundesliga isn’t the greatest of barometers.

Yet we bought Nkuku on the strength of his Bundesliga performances. And Werner ..

But I agree, with you, that's why it annoys me that we keep buying players because of their performances in other Leagues.

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Oops Gonoir has just stitched me up 😂

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37 minutes ago, Argo said:

Interesting how over emotional you're getting over a player playing for another team getting criticised but a player actually playing for the club is considered fair game for a pile on in you're eyes.

https://www.theshedend.com/topic/36431-motm-vs-fulham-h-pl/#comment-1983067

The interesting part might be the mental gymnastics required to understand what point it is you're trying to make.

39 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Isn’t Sancho also doing well now? Safe to say Bundesliga isn’t the greatest of barometers.

I agree but you have to admit his assist today was really impressive. I can’t see any of our fullbacks doing that.

If we're going to dismiss a player's worth to Chelsea based on his performances, played out of position,  in  a team of poorly performing players , then most of our team should go.

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Edited January 20, 20242 yr by Argo

To be a top class left back it's not how tall you are, it's how much hair you have.

 

 

Edited January 20, 20242 yr by just