August 4, 20231 yr Another 20 million. I know Clearlake are an investment firm, I really hope they know what they’re doing with the club’s money.
August 4, 20231 yr Another the next…substitute any Brazilian. No doubt one of these may turn out a star of the future. The first team though needs players now. Seems mad that we are penny pinching, whilst prepared to give unlimited 20m’s for the next golden boy. Over 700m spent and most of us will freely admit we’ve little chance of being involved in a title race, bonkers!
August 4, 20231 yr 6 minutes ago, charierre said: Another the next…substitute any Brazilian. No doubt one of these may turn out a star of the future. The first team though needs players now. Seems mad that we are penny pinching, whilst prepared to give unlimited 20m’s for the next golden boy. Over 700m spent and most of us will freely admit we’ve little chance of being involved in a title race, bonkers! At what point is it more cost effective and efficient just to buy established superstars?
August 4, 20231 yr Never heard of him... Do we have any Brazilian fans on the forum (not the pubic hair style)?
August 4, 20231 yr We used to throw around silly money under Abramovich, but this is insane. I don't see how we don't get a severe penalty in the near future. We are throwing around so much money that there is zero room for failure.
August 4, 20231 yr 47 minutes ago, DarkMata said: At what point is it more cost effective and efficient just to buy established superstars? Depends on your end goal.
August 4, 20231 yr What is wrong with this? We are buying the talent earlier, essentially cutting out the Porto’s of this world. We are taking more risk but the compensation is more upside. It’s just a question whether we are able to judge the potential properly. so far looking at casedi and Santos judgement is good.
August 4, 20231 yr 47 minutes ago, ozboy said: What is wrong with this? We are buying the talent earlier, essentially cutting out the Porto’s of this world. We are taking more risk but the compensation is more upside. It’s just a question whether we are able to judge the potential properly. so far looking at casedi and Santos judgement is good. We've not seen anything of Casedai and Santos yet, they haven't even played a competitive game for us. I have decently high hopes for Casedai, less for Santos, but we can't know either way until they play Premier League football.
August 5, 20231 yr I officially give up trying to remember every player we're signing. I doubt I will even be able to name the first team squad by December.
August 5, 20231 yr It's getting incredibly frustrating chasing kids that may never play a competitive game for us, while we are a week away from starting the season with Gallagher in midfield, a player the club seem happy to sell. I'm not surprised Brighton arent budging on their valuation, when we can afford to spend £50m+ on players to loan out, then we can afford the extra £20m on an absolutely key and vital player for the 1st team.
August 5, 20231 yr One of them has to turn into a Messi or at least a Salah, otherwise how we are going to get the 100s of Millions on these 'wonder' kids. At this point, why would any local kids want to play and develop at Chelsea youth team? Every transfer window we will get 2-3 wonder kids from somewhere in the world. Meanwhile, we gave Sanchez a 7 year deal, he better be good, because no clubs will pay decent money for a second choice GK, apart from Chelsea.
August 5, 20231 yr Amazing attitude by our fans, for years saying we should buy these players first rather than get them later at huge prices from Porto, Benfica type clubs. Now we are buying them early and it's also the wrong thing to do. This is literally how the Portuguese and smaller Spanish clubs have operated for years, it's what City are doing, Arsenal used to do it a lot having feeder clubs. Porto and Benfica especially have made huge amounts of money bringing over young South American players to sell on. We could never sign them due to visa restrictions in the UK, but that's been relaxed over the years and obviously we can use a feeder club also. Edited August 5, 20231 yr by dkw
August 5, 20231 yr 10 minutes ago, dkw said: Amazing attitude by our fans, for years saying we should buy these players first rather than get them later at huge prices from Porto, Benfica type clubs. Now we are buying them early and it's also the wrong thing to do. This is literally how the Portuguese and smaller Spanish clubs have operated for years, it's what City are doing, Arsenal used to do it a lot having feeder clubs. Porto and Benfica especially have made huge amounts of money bringing over young South American players to sell on. We could never sign them due to visa restrictions in the UK, but that's been relaxed over the years and obviously we can use a feeder club also. I think the concern for fans is that clubs like Brighton do this a bit sparingly and pay the likes of £4m for players like Caicedo. We seem to be hoovering up all the kids in Brazil and paying 10m and 20m a time. That said the players do look great.
August 5, 20231 yr 3 minutes ago, WhiteWall said: I think the concern for fans is that clubs like Brighton do this a bit sparingly and pay the likes of £4m for players like Caicedo. We seem to be hoovering up all the kids in Brazil and paying 10m and 20m a time. That said the players do look great. As more clubs go for these type of player the price will rise unfortunately, some clubs have had easier access but that's changing as more clubs see it as a path. Brighton are a great example, plenty of our fans have said we need to stop buying overpriced from them and get the players at source. Well now we are, but fans are still not happy? Very odd.
August 5, 20231 yr 2 minutes ago, dkw said: As more clubs go for these type of player the price will rise unfortunately, some clubs have had easier access but that's changing as more clubs see it as a path. Brighton are a great example, plenty of our fans have said we need to stop buying overpriced from them and get the players at source. Well now we are, but fans are still not happy? Very odd. Agreed. We do also need to recover ground to ensure ongoing European football if we want to grow as a nurturing and developing club rather than just an incubator for higher placed clubs. We have the funds, the manager and the structure. If we can also bring one or two experienced, elite players, possibly even on non qualification release clauses, it will help us get back into the CL and give a proper ultimate goal for this new direction
August 5, 20231 yr 1 minute ago, WhiteWall said: Agreed. We do also need to recover ground to ensure ongoing European football if we want to grow as a nurturing and developing club rather than just an incubator for higher placed clubs. We have the funds, the manager and the structure. If we can also bring one or two experienced, elite players, possibly even on non qualification release clauses, it will help us get back into the CL and give a proper ultimate goal for this new direction It looks like the transfer deals each window/season will be one big signing, some squad infill and try and get a few highly rated youngsters for the future, while cleaning up the unbalanced squad we currently have. I don't see anything wrong with that.
August 5, 20231 yr Author 1 hour ago, big blue said: It's getting incredibly frustrating chasing kids that may never play a competitive game for us, while we are a week away from starting the season with Gallagher in midfield, a player the club seem happy to sell. I'm not surprised Brighton arent budging on their valuation, when we can afford to spend £50m+ on players to loan out, then we can afford the extra £20m on an absolutely key and vital player for the 1st team. Total bollocks
August 5, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, big blue said: It's getting incredibly frustrating chasing kids that may never play a competitive game for us, while we are a week away from starting the season with Gallagher in midfield, a player the club seem happy to sell. I'm not surprised Brighton arent budging on their valuation, when we can afford to spend £50m+ on players to loan out, then we can afford the extra £20m on an absolutely key and vital player for the 1st team. Where do you think Brighton got that player were trying to sign from them for daft money?
August 5, 20231 yr Author 7 minutes ago, dkw said: Where do you think Brighton got that player were trying to sign from them for daft money? Exactly, we're buying these players so that a club like Brighton can't hold us to ransom for £100m in a few years time but because the results aren't instant some fans just aren't interested.
August 5, 20231 yr 10 minutes ago, timetowaste said: Total bollocks How so? Had we had our first team in order I doubt anyone would have been particularly displeased about this but when there's glaring holes in our XI that will likely ensure we finish outside the Top 4 again if we don't do anything about it you can get the frustration. Apparently we couldn't afford a top goalkeeper this summer but now we've spent a £100 million on talents and backups in a week. How does that make sense? It's not like we are going cheap with this either. Sanchez + Lesley is £50 million alone so we aren't exactly doing it the "Brighton-way" are we?
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