12 hours ago, ducavis said:

They have turned down £40m from Brentford, and want £50m. Sorry but he isn’t a £40m player. Like someone said in another thread he isn’t better than Morgan Gibbs who Forest paid £42m. 
There is a reason big European clubs don’t bother looking inside the PL for talents, they are well overpriced.
 

You pay 20/30 m premium for pl player. 

1 hour ago, Bob stark said:

You pay 20/30 m premium for pl player. 

Unless you’re buying from Chelsea that is

4 hours ago, Night-T said:

You can't judge a player based on 1 game.

I'll judge him on last season as well. Really struggled against PL defences after running rings around Championship defences the season before. In the end, he was coming off the bench.

3 hours ago, Frawdulant said:

Unless you’re buying from Chelsea that is

We are sh*te at selling talent. Older established names yeah but wonder why we can never "market" our young players the way other clubs do.

Don't want him, end of story.

6 hours ago, abister1 said:

We are sh*te at selling talent. Older established names yeah but wonder why we can never "market" our young players the way other clubs do.

Not sure that's true, the past few years we've banked a lot from selling academy players.

Tammy Abraham AS Roma €41.00m

Fikayo Tomori AC Milan AC €31.60m

Marc Guéhi Crystal Palace  €23.34m

Mason Mount Man Utd €64.20m

Ruben Loftus-Cheek AC Milan €16.00m

Ethan Ampadu Leeds €8.10m

Maybe pushing it with Ampadu but that's around £140m sold in 3 years, thats not bad going.

 

54 minutes ago, dkw said:

Not sure that's true, the past few years we've banked a lot from selling academy players.

Tammy Abraham AS Roma €41.00m

Fikayo Tomori AC Milan AC €31.60m

Marc Guéhi Crystal Palace  €23.34m

Mason Mount Man Utd €64.20m

Ruben Loftus-Cheek AC Milan €16.00m

Ethan Ampadu Leeds €8.10m

Maybe pushing it with Ampadu but that's around £140m sold in 3 years, thats not bad going.

 

I think the price differences (e.g. Brennan Johnson at 40m vs. some of the academy players we have sold) is also seen depending on who is buying and selling. For example City sold Lavia to Southampton for 10m or so. A year later he is valued at 5 times that price. But City would probably struggle to get 50m for Cole Palmer.

3 minutes ago, forbzy said:

I think the price differences (e.g. Brennan Johnson at 40m vs. some of the academy players we have sold) is also seen depending on who is buying and selling. For example City sold Lavia to Southampton for 10m or so. A year later he is valued at 5 times that price. But City would probably struggle to get 50m for Cole Palmer.

Not sure about that. 

Seeing we are looking at Balogun as well. 

3 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Seeing we are looking at Balogun as well. 

I'd rather Balogun over Johnson if it's a straight choice

8 minutes ago, BordeauxBlue said:

I'd rather Balogun over Johnson if it's a straight choice

Neither are worth the numbers being quoted though.

These feel like slightly desperate signings to me. I’d rather wait to see what we’ve got with our existing options. These feel a bit West Ham level 

Last night against SU summed him up. Quick, a decent assist, but rarely in the right place at the right time. His judgement and instincts are lacking.

I'd rather play one of the other dozen wingers we've got on our books than buy this c**t for £50m.

On 18/08/2023 at 16:25, dkw said:

Not sure that's true, the past few years we've banked a lot from selling academy players.

Tammy Abraham AS Roma €41.00m

Fikayo Tomori AC Milan AC €31.60m

Marc Guéhi Crystal Palace  €23.34m

Mason Mount Man Utd €64.20m

Ruben Loftus-Cheek AC Milan €16.00m

Ethan Ampadu Leeds €8.10m

Maybe pushing it with Ampadu but that's around £140m sold in 3 years, thats not bad going.

 

That's a healthy one but I should have clarified I meant those on cusp of making the team rather than already established squad players.

As an example , compare Gordon now of Newcastle but when at Everton how elong had he been in the first team and how many games under his belt when they were demanding £50m. Even Tammy who had lots of experience in UK and with us for near 2 seasons couldn't command a £40m fee

Looks like our interest is reemerging with Santos going the other way on loan. 

25 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Looks like our interest is reemerging with Santos going the other way on loan. 

Assuming that he would be brought in to provide cover for Nkunku's position rather than be out and out striker. He managed 8 Premier League goals last season which isn't bad for a support striker, and sadly was more than any of our players managed.

A loan there for Santos would be interesting. The opportunity for some Premier League experience and Steve Cooper is a decent manager.

On the negative side we would almost certainly have to pay a Premier league premium for a domestic player.

39 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Looks like our interest is reemerging with Santos going the other way on loan. 

I don't like this on both counts !

Brennan is crap, and was looking forward to seeing Santos in PL action for us ... albeit having also signed Caicedo, Lavia and Ugochukwu since pre-season I don't now see him getting much opportunity sadly ... so a loan for him is probably now a necessity, but a hard no to this Johnson guy ffs.

1 minute ago, Sexyfootball said:

I don't like this on both counts !

Brennan is crap, and was looking forward to seeing Santos in PL action for us ... albeit having also signed Caicedo, Lavia and Ugochukwu since pre-season I don't now see him getting much opportunity sadly ... so a loan for him is probably now a necessity, but a hard no to this Johnson guy ffs.

Remember his miss against Arsenal?

He's giving me a panic buy vibe. 

58 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Looks like our interest is reemerging with Santos going the other way on loan. 

Santos was not even on the bench yesterday so he absolutely needs a loan to develop, he cannot be our 5th choice, or worse, at this stage of his career.

Johnson will be a SWP level of flop imo.

14 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Santos was not even on the bench yesterday so he absolutely needs a loan to develop, he cannot be our 5th choice, or worse, at this stage of his career.

Johnson will be a SWP level of flop imo.

SWP was a flop but he's 1.86x the player Johnson is.   Johnson can only dream of having the average qualities of SWP.

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Looks like our interest is reemerging with Santos going the other way on loan. 

what a load of sh*t if true. This lot just never learn.

Edited August 21, 20232 yr by WhiteWall

Im all in for Mason Greenwood. But I bet Chelsea won't be as he won't cost 100million pounds and doesnt play for Brighton. 

 

Sorry he’s just not good enough for us , can’t we sign any outfield players over the age of 22 .

52 minutes ago, olderschoolcfc said:

Im all in for Mason Greenwood. But I bet Chelsea won't be as he won't cost 100million pounds and doesnt play for Brighton. 

 

I’m all in for breaking his scrawny neck.