Just now, evissy said:

I really like his strong stance on these things. Tuchel and Pochettino both ran into trouble trying to manage everything. Enzo's just the coach.

You honestly believe that?

1 hour ago, SimonH said:

Just heard on SSN, that Maresca had said in the last few minutes that anyone still sidelined after the window closes won’t get any minutes at all. 
 

The club has some job now to move all these players. 

I don't like that at all, this isn't how to treat players. I get he and the club have to encourage players to leave, but these are players who have been professional, some of them have served the club with distinction, and they've been signed or handed new contracts by the ownership. 

Think of what the club told sterling when they signed him, when they were selling them their 'project'. If you can stomach that, think of what they told Ben Chilwell or trevoh Chalobah when they were handed new contracts. 

29 minutes ago, g3.7 said:

I don't like that at all, this isn't how to treat players. I get he and the club have to encourage players to leave, but these are players who have been professional, some of them have served the club with distinction, and they've been signed or handed new contracts by the ownership. 

Think of what the club told sterling when they signed him, when they were selling them their 'project'. If you can stomach that, think of what they told Ben Chilwell or trevoh Chalobah when they were handed new contracts. 

I absolutely get what your saying. Im a big defender of the long serving academy guys staying around. But I also see this as a huge positive. Whether the players are being moved on because they have underperformed as viewed by the directors, or simply financial, or even after pre season Maresca is having doubts about players, we simply dont know, but he is ruling over a massive squad with an iron fist at the minute. Come hell or high water, you dont play in his team unless you are up to scratch and he wants you there. 

Still early days and there'll be plenty of testing periods this season under him, but so far so good. Lets see what October brings. 

Maybe there's a clear boundary on what he's responsible and not. He's a coach, so just coach the 25 players on rosters and nothing else. The 'bomb' squad thing is getting ugly, but again that may not even be under his jurisdiction. Most of the mess are created by people above him, he's hired as coach, so stick with that day job.

 

2 hours ago, g3.7 said:

I don't like that at all, this isn't how to treat players. I get he and the club have to encourage players to leave, but these are players who have been professional, some of them have served the club with distinction, and they've been signed or handed new contracts by the ownership. 

Think of what the club told sterling when they signed him, when they were selling them their 'project'. If you can stomach that, think of what they told Ben Chilwell or trevoh Chalobah when they were handed new contracts. 

He is letting them know exactly where they stand & letting them be masters of their own destiny.  They need to tell their agents to get a move sorted out quickly.  I would rather hear the truth than be told a lie.

8 hours ago, g3.7 said:

I don't like that at all, this isn't how to treat players. I get he and the club have to encourage players to leave, but these are players who have been professional, some of them have served the club with distinction, and they've been signed or handed new contracts by the ownership. 

Think of what the club told sterling when they signed him, when they were selling them their 'project'. If you can stomach that, think of what they told Ben Chilwell or trevoh Chalobah when they were handed new contracts. 

In fairness to him he's being pumped over the same questions over and over again and yes there may be some string pulling from the directors going on but there isn't a lot more he can do. He's still trying to maintain an open relationship with the press but frankly they're all prats.

Just taking the Sterling situation his approach has provided clarity, moving on to an honest appraisal of what's best for the player, to matter of fact by repeating what he has said throughout, to a level of coldness now in highlighting Sterling's chances here as the windows close gets nearer. In reality Maresca's position hasn't changed in that he told Sterling two weeks ago that he will struggle to get any minutes here. We are a day left and neither Sterling or his agent are any nearer a move away.

8 hours ago, bluetrooper said:

Come hell or high water, you don't play in his team unless you are up to scratch

The continuing presence of Mudryk in the squad suggests this is not the case.

11 hours ago, Mod said:

You honestly believe that?

Well. Enzo has said this many times. Will it be the reality.

Tuchel and Pochettino always "tried" to solve these things in the presser. Enzo completely sidelines them 

8 minutes ago, evissy said:

Enzo completely sidelines them 

Didn't work out that great for Villas Boas.

54 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Didn't work out that great for Villas Boas.

No it didn't and time will tell with Enzo. But I like he concentrates on the first team squad because when that works in other words we win, everything else becomes easier.

2 hours ago, OriginalS said:

Didn't work out that great for Villas Boas.

Tbf, Sterling has done nothing for the club, so it’s not like Villas Boas ostracising legends like Frank Lampard and Ashley Cole, impact wise. Chilwell is the only interesting one, as he’s clearly a strong personality being vice-captain and all, so he must be well liked in there. Nonetheless. 

Are we really that naive to believe that Enzo is making these decisions?

Do we really think one of Cities top scorers in a Pep system is not a fit for Enzo? He's not making these decisions and it's coming straight from up top, he's just delivering the message bluntly on behalf of the owners so they save face.

All the power is with the players and if they decided to sit pretty until January then that's on the club not them.

Edited August 29, 20241 yr by Sheva

42 minutes ago, Sheva said:

Are we really that naive to believe that Enzo is making these decisions?

Do we really think one of Cities top scorers in a Pep system is not a fit for Enzo? He's not making these decisions and it's coming straight from up top, he's just delivering the message bluntly on behalf of the owners so they save face.

All the power is with the players and if they decided to sit pretty until January then that's on the club not them.

Making what decisions? Which City striker?

42 minutes ago, Sheva said:

Are we really that naive to believe that Enzo is making these decisions?

Do we really think one of Cities top scorers in a Pep system is not a fit for Enzo? He's not making these decisions and it's coming straight from up top, he's just delivering the message bluntly on behalf of the owners so they save face.

All the power is with the players and if they decided to sit pretty until January then that's on the club not them.

Sterling is exactly the type of player that fits his system. If we are going to continue playing like we did at wolves then there’s is very few better than Sterling at a first time tap in.

52 minutes ago, Sheva said:

Are we really that naive to believe that Enzo is making these decisions?

Do we really think one of Cities top scorers in a Pep system is not a fit for Enzo? He's not making these decisions and it's coming straight from up top, he's just delivering the message bluntly on behalf of the owners so they save face.

All the power is with the players and if they decided to sit pretty until January then that's on the club not them.

No, Enzo already said early on that he wanted sterling. But he's on the owners sell list.

Enzo is purely a coach, gets given a squad and he does the rest. Who plays, who doesn't, etc...and he can't wait till the window is over so he can concentrate purely on the squad without the noise from the media. Not noise from the club as they are in a bubble but from the media. And until window closes anything can happen. "Unfortunately anything can happen..."

He's said all that already in the interviews he's had.

 

*He also said incoming and outgoings are not his problem/job or they would have to pay him twice or something like that...lol

Edited August 29, 20241 yr by Simplymo

I'm not sure why he's doubling down on not giving any minutes to any of the players that don't leave Chelsea by deadline day? If there's an injury crisis, something we are all too familiar with here then I am sure his hand will be forced. What happens if Cucurella and Viega get injured? Suddenly we don't have ANY left backs at all and if Chilwell is still around it would be incredibly stupid to not give him game time. 

Edited August 29, 20241 yr by Erik

3 minutes ago, Erik said:

I'm not sure why he's doubling down on not giving any minutes to any of the players that don't leave Chelsea by deadline day? If there's an injury crisis, something we are all too familiar with here then I am sure his hand will be forced. What happens if Cucurella and Viega get injured? Suddenly we don't have ANY left backs at all and if Chilwell is still around it would be incredibly stupid to not give him game time. 

He'd be silly not to. If we are trying to hardball them out, theres not much use in then turning around and saying "But if you put your foot down and stay, Ill give you a fair chance to fight your way back in", because theyll just do that.

Lets see whos left after the window closes and then how they are treated. It will be very easy for him to backtrack if needed

6 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

The continuing presence of Mudryk in the squad suggests this is not the case.

I have a sneaky suspicion Maresca will get a tune out of Mudryk. Might be a painful process but he's not going anywhere for the net six months. Probably make or break time considering Stirling. 

7 minutes ago, bluetrooper said:

I have a sneaky suspicion Maresca will get a tune out of Mudryk. Might be a painful process but he's not going anywhere for the net six months. Probably make or break time considering Stirling. 

I agree apart from the 6 months bit. They can't get rid of him until the money they paid levels out a bit. Think he'll be here till at least next summer and maybe next season too. But by then I do hope Maresca can work some magic on the kid.

47 minutes ago, Niall1905 said:

He'd be silly not to. If we are trying to hardball them out, theres not much use in then turning around and saying "But if you put your foot down and stay, Ill give you a fair chance to fight your way back in", because theyll just do that.

Lets see whos left after the window closes and then how they are treated. It will be very easy for him to backtrack if needed

I agree but going public with the statements make no sense. It weakens our bargaining positions with other sides as they can just drag their feet with any incoming deals and it also dents his authority as a manager if he says one thing and does the complete opposite a few weeks later. 

15 minutes ago, Erik said:

I agree but going public with the statements make no sense. It weakens our bargaining positions with other sides as they can just drag their feet with any incoming deals and it also dents his authority as a manager if he says one thing and does the complete opposite a few weeks later. 

I doubt he is saying anything beyond what the Sporting Directors and owners have asked him to.

1 hour ago, forbzy said:

I doubt he is saying anything beyond what the Sporting Directors and owners have asked him to.

I just don't get the burning all ships policy. Apart from it being brutal towards faithful employees, if the club don't manage to offload a certain player and a subsequent injury crisis makes the player somehow useful after all, that's not a good picture.

Just now, Valerie said:

I just don't get the burning all ships policy. Apart from it being brutal towards faithful employees, if the club don't manage to offload a certain player and a subsequent injury crisis makes the player somehow useful after all, that's not a good picture.

I agree. But I equally doubt the manager is going rogue in this respect or they would have been called out some time ago and told to make different comments.

He's not the "Messiah" he's just a "Messiah" lookey-likey.