35 minutes ago, atomis said:

60M was simply too good an offer to let go.

Too good an offer To be true

I'm still skeptical about the numbers. Call it denial, but anyone offering or turning down 60M for Willian should be out of a job. 30M should have gotten it done. 

As I type this, Tammy knocks in another for Villa 

18 minutes ago, Skinnedy said:

Too good an offer To be true

I'm still skeptical about the numbers. Call it denial, but anyone offering or turning down 60M for Willian should be out of a job. 30M should have gotten it done. 

As I type this, Tammy knocks in another for Villa 

Barca wanted him bad......we didnt sell and they went and bought someone else for 45M, cant remember his name. But both barca and Willy confirmed it.

12 minutes ago, atomis said:

went and bought someone else for 45M, cant remember his name

Malcolm. He’s battled injuries this year and only made 5 La Liga appearances. 

He’ll be 22 in February. 

Thought he looked better today, just needs to develop an end product.

1 minute ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Thought he looked better today, just needs to develop an end product.

He's 30 its not going to happen.

Never heard of a Christmas miracle?

Worked very hard today, but he's still about as potent as a eunuch. 

No i haven't.

Shame.

8 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Thought he looked better today, just needs to develop an end product.

Willian has always been good picking the ball up and running from deep, it's the one part of his game that I actually think he is consistently good at.....it's when he approaches the attacking areas where it all falls apart. He had multiple chances to take his man on today, but he just stopped and played it backwards. His corners were terrible, and I thought he should have scored when he was put through one v one.

The only reason Willian is playing at the moment is because Hazard is false 9, otherwise it would be Pedro and Hazard on LW/RW. I'm wondering whether we bring in Mertens in Jan. 

29 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Willian has always been good picking the ball up and running from deep, it's the one part of his game that I actually think he is consistently good at

The ship has sailed on this considering how late he is in his career, but would be interesting to see him at left mid in a Sarri system. 

 

1 hour ago, enigma said:

The only reason Willian is playing at the moment is because Hazard is false 9, otherwise it would be Pedro and Hazard on LW/RW. I'm wondering whether we bring in Mertens in Jan. 

You realise Willian has been involved in every game in all competitions this season except for Fulham at home? He played more than any other player in the squad, I think Sarri might rate him somehow. 

Willian's been like that every season, somehow managers/fans still expected more, and we missed the golden chance to offload him and get a younger replacement during the summer.

No pleasing some people. Look at the data day on the official site and you get a real picture of his overall contribution in yesterday's match.

41 minutes ago, EmeraldBlue said:

No pleasing some people. Look at the data day on the official site and you get a real picture of his overall contribution in yesterday's match.

Not true, I would be pleased if he converted his chances and gave us a chance to score from corners and free kicks. We need goals, and seeing as Willian is one of the most attacking players in the team, they need to come from him now and again.

15 hours ago, EmeraldBlue said:

No pleasing some people. Look at the data day on the official site and you get a real picture of his overall contribution in yesterday's match.

What the club actually thought about Willian.

"Willian recorded a game-high three key passes, with Eden Hazard and Mateo Kovacic each making two.

Hazard was successful with five dribbles, two more than the next player who was Willian.

We had 10 attempts of which four were on target. Hazard and Willian had three each

Willian impressed not just offensively but also when the team needed him to defend, and his four successful tackles was the most of any Chelsea player. N’Golo Kante won three."

But that doesn't match some people's agendas, or they think they know more than the professionals running the club, or they don't like his hair, or something.

Still, we can keep  on about "end-product" and "doesn't score enough" as justifications for having a moan, can't we, even though Willian's main role in the team is not goal-scorer, and never has been.

 

With no center forwards to score goals, the rest of the team get the flak for not scoring goals. 

I know.  Why we keep Dave I really don't know.  Hasn't scored for years.

Willy haveing a semi hard-on in one game does not mean he is really good. He is super sub. Vast majority of games he is sucking the life out.......I like him but he just aint first 11 game after game.

Seems none of our managers agree with you, though.

I thought he played well. He hit the post twice, thats just plain unlucky. 

36 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

Seems none of our managers agree with you, though.

they don't last long, do they 

I'd do it for a season for that sort of pay-off

3 hours ago, yorkleyblue said:

Seems none of our managers agree with you, though.

They do see that Willian is poor but because of the lack of trust for Morata/Giroud and Hudson-Odoi, Willian is still getting decent minutes, also while he is missing a clear cut chance almost every game the fact that he is getting into chances alone does help his case.

Crazy how Willian has had problems, playing at the World Cup and while he looks dangerous nothing happens and then Costa comes in and the whole attack lights up for Brazil.

Willian for me has always had the world class quality because of his speed and technique but ever since he acted badly towards Conte I changed my opinion of him.