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If you got yourself fired do you think prospective employees would look favourably on that?

You're a right mug if you can't see a common link. United are desperate and Jose being sacked and going against everything United stand for generally hasn't put them off.

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If you got yourself fired do you think prospective employees would look favourably on that?

 

 

I guess it would all depend whether they were in on it as well ... we don't know what goes on, and it is feasible that there could have been tapping up from Woodward, ongoing dialogue, who knows. It was very public that Van Gaal was off after 3 years maximum, so the job was definitely up for grabs, as it turns out sooner rather than later.  One positive of course is that Giggs is all pissed off. Bit of karma there.

 

All things considered, I smell Agents here ... creating situations wher massive fees get paid, both to the agent and his charge ...

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Nah Jose never got himself fired. It looks suspect but this was a shock to everyone - to Roman, the board, players and Jose. He wouldn't have signed a new deal in the summer if he was planning on leaving. The payout remains 1 year anyway.

Does anyone disagree with my 10 year theory?

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In football you can go to jail and still come out with a better contract waiting for you (unless it's obvious rape or serious murder). In the real world if you go to jail, you'll be hard pressed to find a better job once you come out.

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I would have thought you would like the "conspiracy theory" angle, as the alternative is that he was actually trying when he had us one point off relegation. I'm not sure which is worse LOL.

 

While it is a fun theory neatly packaged to explain so much, it kinda ignores a few things. While he could cause PR disasters bla bla that can be done himself. But he cannot make a team play pants all by himself as we've seen a good team can carry a sh*t manager quite far. It would actually involve the team playing sh*t to help him, and then continuing to be sh*t after he left. It's impossible for him to tank it that badly by himself.

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In football you can go to jail and still come out with a better contract waiting for you (unless it's obvious rape or serious murder). In the real world if you go to jail, you'll be hard pressed to find a better job once you come out.

 

It's not a hard and fast rule though - Iain Dowie is selling homebuyers reports now for example :-)

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You're a right mug if you can't see a common link. United are desperate and Jose being sacked and going against everything United stand for generally hasn't put them off.

Your a muppet who clearly think what you want to suit your own agenda. Honestly we've had bad posters in the past but you take the prize as the biggest douche bag of them all.

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hypothetically in the real world you could self sabotage to get yourself fired if you wanted out. What makes football management different? Not saying he did but I am just curious, considering with football management you get to walk with millions in your back pocket at the very top.

Thought of this myself just moment ago but I just don't think so. Jose is not as calculating person as his style of football is. He is a pragmatist but any pragmatist would know how self sabotage can end up. Badly.

Good luck Jose! Never win at Stamford Bridge again. Promise.

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While it is a fun theory neatly packaged to explain so much, it kinda ignores a few things. While he could cause PR disasters bla bla that can be done himself. But he cannot make a team play pants all by himself as we've seen a good team can carry a sh*t manager quite far. It would actually involve the team playing sh*t to help him, and then continuing to be sh*t after he left. It's impossible for him to tank it that badly by himself.

 

He can pick players woefully out of form though and have them all running about and tracking back and all that good stuff. But I broadly agree, it would more likely be a "perfect storm" scenario ...

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If you got yourself fired do you think prospective employees would look favourably on that?

It reminds me of an episode of "Better Call Saul" when Saul wanted to get fired by the law firm he was working for, because he wanted to go start his own practice. He started turning up to work in colourful suits, and did other crazy stuff. Think it was playing a bagpipe at work that got him his walking orders. His boss told him he knew Saul wanted to get himself fired but didn't understand why? Saul got to keep his bonus mind you.

Not saying he did but can remember him releasing a statement a few days after leaving us saying he was going to work in England next season, and he will be spending his free time supporting his mates who were in management. He popped up at the Middlesborough game just once & that was it. Not insinuating he did but he was pretty certain he would be managing in England & with LVG already under pressure, there was only going to one destination.

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Thing is in a job where you can make your own firm it makes sense to get yourself fired.

In a sport it's different, people will look at your last job and your actions. So to get himself fired from Chelsea was a risk for his career. It's just another dumb theory that holds no water and as I've said suits people's own agendas. It's pathetic.

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Come on guys let's leave aside the personal stuff .. we know there are some 'extreme' views, working both sides of the debate, and as is usually the case the truth is probably somewhere in the middle ground. Let's not get upset and lapse into insults just because someone has a different opinion.

 

It could always be worse ... we could all be Manchester United fans ... :-)

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Think about it..! What if mourinho knew all along that the UNITED job was going to be vacant this summer and he was destined to succeed LVG.

Would it be far fetched considering all things possible that he intentionally initiated he's sacking from Chelsea to enable him a hassle free succession to MU?

I mean consider the EVA scenario, it was incredibly unnecessary and just fecking STUPID and then the issue with some players. Never mind strengthening the squad, how the feck do you also manage to fall out with at least HALF the players in a squad you built?????

He soon came on match of the day claiming he won't quit but Chelsea can sack him and now he has his wish.

At his dream club where he can just as well correct alot of his wrongs:

1- play an attacking brand of football

2- regularly play youth

3- utilise mata

4- calm down with embarrassing remarks that damage the club

I will be incredibly p*ssed off if this happens. I really wanted it to work with him at Chelsea. Problem is, I know he's not bigger than this club which he thought he was and he didn't have me wrapped around his little finger like he does with many other CFC fans.

The guy left us in a terrible state. We know Woodward is not great in the transfer market and Utd regularly miss out on targets. Let's see if that happens and if Jose has a melt down from it.I'm just praying it all goes wrong for him.

a genuinely ludicrous, credibility shredding theory. woeful stuff.

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I have a lump in my throat seeing this, but we sacked Jose so he's free to go wherever he wants but I think it's evident he had ambitions to want to manage Manchester United one day but I don't buy into the idea that he engineered his sacking.

 

It's the moment most of us have dreaded for months, or even years but hopefully it's a failure.

 

I will always remember everything he did for our club and he will remain a Chelsea legend in my mind. It's sad that it turned out this way but I've officially moved on as of now and it's time for Antonio Conte and the boys to get the club back to the top where it belongs.

 

I hope Jose receives a warm reception when we play Manchester United at home, but after that it's war.

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Eurosport : Parker: United have sold their soul by giving Mourinho keys to Old Trafford - http://www.eurosport.com/football/premier-league/2015-2016/manchester-united-have-sold-their-soul-by-giving-jose-mourinho-keys-to-old-trafford_sto5589191/story.shtml

Simple man Parker at it. Such a narrow-minded idiot. I genuinely enjoy seeing him having a hard time with Jose in reigns.

Sold their soul..... Hmmm. ManU is probably the most commercial football club in the world. Kids in Africa who can't read or watch telly know their logo. Not complaining about commercialism here as I work in the industry. Just saying it is hard to find a soul from that group as an outsider.

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Eurosport : Parker: United have sold their soul by giving Mourinho keys to Old Trafford - http://www.eurosport.com/football/premier-league/2015-2016/manchester-united-have-sold-their-soul-by-giving-jose-mourinho-keys-to-old-trafford_sto5589191/story.shtml

Simple man Parker at it. Such a narrow-minded idiot. I genuinely enjoy seeing him having a hard time with Jose in reigns.

 

At least he's consistent. Most have seemed to have changed their tune

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a genuinely ludicrous, credibility shredding theory. woeful stuff.

So you're saying its genuinely impossible that Jose made decisions that could be looked upon as engineering his own way out of the club?

You think it was completely natural for his pathetic excuses, playing the same players that let him down every week and turning on a doctor for no real logical reason?

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Don't know about anyone else but I'm actuallt glad jose is back in the prem. Not the same without him. Going to be strange being against him but won't make me feel any less of him.

Anyone that has any idea about football knew the day we sacked him was the biggest mistake romans ever made. I suspect over the next 5 years we are going to have it rubbed in our faces.

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He's on the wane. This is a good day for us and a bad, bad day for Manchester United.

 

In one season, everyone, including the United fans who have talked themselves into thinking he's the second coming, and the deluded on The Shed End who think he could do no wrong, will see him exactly as I do: a sh*tehawk, a bully, a charlatan, a fraudster and a c**t.

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So you're saying its genuinely impossible that Jose made decisions that could be looked upon as engineering his own way out of the club?

You think it was completely natural for his pathetic excuses, playing the same players that let him down every week and turning on a doctor for no real logical reason?

You'd be better off on a conspiracy theorists forum. I'd honestly rather have (shudders) Peter Sage or Blue Daze back than listen to idiotic theories like yours. You joined when we were playing sh*t where were you when we were doing good under Jose?

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He's on the wane. This is a good day for us and a bad, bad day for Manchester United.

In one season, everyone, including the United fans who have talked themselves into thinking he's the second coming, and the deluded on The Shed End who think he could do no wrong, will see him exactly as I do: a sh*tehawk, a bully, a charlatan, a fraudster and a c**t.

Can I borrow your crystal ball?

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You'd be better off on a conspiracy theorists forum. I'd honestly rather have (shudders) Peter Sage or Blue Daze back than listen to idiotic theories like yours. You joined when we were playing sh*t where were you when we were doing good under Jose?

So what if I joined this season? What's your point?

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Don't know about anyone else but I'm actuallt glad jose is back in the prem. Not the same without him. Going to be strange being against him but won't make me feel any less of him.

Anyone that has any idea about football knew the day we sacked him was the biggest mistake romans ever made. I suspect over the next 5 years we are going to have it rubbed in our faces.

I do think we will regret it and I think Jose will make United a far stronger side than we will be during his time there BUT can we really blame Roman that much? I mean he did give Jose more time than any other previous manager to get it right so in that respect I do think Roman wanted Jose to fix things but it got to a stage where he felt it had to be done. I still think there was no point in sacking him at that stage though….we barely got anything better from Guus and I don’t for one minute think we would have gone down with Jose no matter what folk say.

Jose with a point to prove and a blank cheque book is a dangerous animal, one that I can see dominating the league for a few seasons then moving on or getting the chop when things go sour.

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