2 minutes ago, jack_super_class said:

Not a silly thing to say then.

Well it is when you're saying "time for emerson" just because Alonso made a mistake, when he has been superb all season. 

I said this a few pages back, as soon as Alonso has a bad game everyone will want him benched again, he's the only player who gets that scrutiny, he has to play a solid 10/10 in order to get a bit of appreciation. 
 

Just now, Slojo said:

Well it is when you're saying "time for emerson" just because Alonso made a mistake, when he has been superb all season. 

I said this a few pages back, as soon as Alonso has a bad game everyone will want him benched again, he's the only player who gets that scrutiny, he has to play a solid 10/10 in order to get a bit of appreciation. 
 

But i have wanted Emerson in the team for a while, i'm not Alonso biggest fan. Im not just saying it because of Alonso poor performance yesterday.

There was a superb moment in the Man Utd game when Alonso lost the ball on the edge of their box and somehow got stranded out on the right wing. He tracked back and made it about as far as the edge of the centre circle in the opposing half, at which point Man Utd played a diagonal over to the left. Alonso swung wildly at it, and somehow ended up kicking the ball over his own head, playing Rashford through on our left flank (i.e. the area in which you would expect him to be, or at least close to). Hazard then was forced to scythe down Rashford on the edge of our box and picked up a booking.

Brilliantly stupid football, I waited until Man Utd squandered the free kick and laughed my arse off. 

Edited October 22, 20187 yr by PloKoon13
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27 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

There was a superb moment in the Man Utd game when Alonso lost the ball on the edge of their box and somehow got stranded out on the right wing. He tracked back and made it about as far as the edge of the centre circle in the opposing half, at which point Man Utd played a diagonal over to the left. Alonso swung wildly at it, and somehow ended up kicking the ball over his own head, playing Rashford through on our left flank (i.e. the area in which you would expect him to be, or at least close to). Hazard then was forced to scythe down Rashford on the edge of our box and picked up a booking.

Brilliantly stupid football, I waited until Man Utd squandered the free kick and laughed my arse off. 

A certain thought stream said that Hazard's yellow in the first stopped him closing down Young in the second.

Would expect Sarri to have words on that to work out who should have been covering Alonso going AWOL.

Five year contract signed and announced this morning. 

Good move by Chelsea, he's surpassed all expectations as a player since joining the club. 

For the money we paid for him absolutely worth it

Excellent news, really proven to be a very good signing.

Really unlucky to score yesterday. 

That volley in the first half showed some tremendous technique, if that'd gone in it would have been a contender for goal of the season. 

Can we all agree that he's a huge liability defensivly now?
Every time we face any kind of decent competition he's targeted and exploited.

If we aim to win anything of note he needs replacing.

1 hour ago, Sindre said:

If we aim to win anything of note he needs replacing.

The premier league and FA cup weren't of note?

41 minutes ago, Zeta said:

The premier league and FA cup weren't of note?

In a back 4 i should have added. In Contes system he always had a CB covering for him.

5 hours ago, Sindre said:

Can we all agree that he's a huge liability defensivly now?
Every time we face any kind of decent competition he's targeted and exploited.

If we aim to win anything of note he needs replacing.

Doesn’t help that he gets almost no help from the players in front of him.

Hazard drifts into the centre of the pitch and Kovacic rarely tracks back given he’s the most advance of the midfield three.

Alonso gets completely isolated at times on that left flank, I think most left backs would struggle. 

but some arses HAVE to have a scapegoat, you know that

6 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

but some arses HAVE to have a scapegoat, you know that

It's just easier. If its one persons fault then we can replace the one person and be fine. If it's not one person then the solution is a whole lot harder. Would be so easy if it was one players fault.

17 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Doesn’t help that he gets almost no help from the players in front of him.

Hazard drifts into the centre of the pitch and Kovacic rarely tracks back given he’s the most advance of the midfield three.

Alonso gets completely isolated at times on that left flank, I think most left backs would struggle. 

Every damn left back gets isolated from time to time in a game of football. Difference being that the best ones can handle it but Alonso crumbles.
And Kovacic is a hard worker that gets down to help most of the time and so is Hazard.

6 minutes ago, Sindre said:

Every damn left back gets isolated from time to time in a game of football. Difference being that the best ones can handle it but Alonso crumbles.
And Kovacic is a hard worker that gets down to help most of the time and so is Hazard.

Agree to disagree on that one then. 

Alonso finds himself 2 v 1 against attackers a lot more frequently than Dave does on the right. Kante gets back and helps out far more than the left side midfielders do for Alonso. 

Looks amazing when we have the ball and we're attacking the opposition. Really seems to struggle when he actually needs to defend though.

12 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Looks amazing when we have the ball and we're attacking the opposition. Really seems to struggle when he actually needs to defend though.

We should play him at striker, can't be any worse than what we're currently seeing at no. 9

13 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Looks amazing when we have the ball and we're attacking the opposition. Really seems to struggle when he actually needs to defend though.

I think this sums us up as a team... not just Alonso

I think it's time to give Emerson into that position. I am worried for Azpilicueta too. I think we'll be looking for a new RB soon. 

On 26/11/2018 at 09:33, RIP Mourinho said:

Looks amazing when we have the ball and we're attacking the opposition. Really seems to struggle when he actually needs to defend though.

If we were to compare him to somebody like Alex Sandro, it isn't close. Alonso is not world class. 

be curious to see an analysis of how many points he's won us with his attacking and how many he's helped lose via his defensive errors.

On 26/11/2018 at 22:40, Raven8er said:

I think this sums us up as a team... not just Alonso

Alonso has always been this way though since we signed him.

Wasn't our worst defender by a long shot against Spurs. There's always been an element against him because they wanted a superman or a batman at an inflated price. Alonso was too cheap.

16 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Alonso has always been this way though since we signed him.

Oh no I agree with you 100% mate, I was just making a point that whilst we move the ball well as a team and look good going forward - our movement without the ball between our defence and midfield seems to be lacking. It was  pretty evident against the Spuds and then against Arsenal, Liverpool, and Utd.