19 minutes ago, ashwin said:

To be fair, I didn't read "headless chicken style" that as a criticism... I thought it described his style quite well (and humourously). He is probably the only player in the world who can pull that off and the only headless chicken with any method to its madness.

I'm sure everyone here loves Kante.

Ok, @ashwin If that's how you see it.  To me, "running around in a headless-chicken style" is the ultimate in offensive comments about a players style.

If there was method to the madness then the chicken would surely not be headless? The whole headless part of the analogy is to describe the act as being brainless or careless 

Yeah, I don't think it's the correct terminology to use, Kante's ball-winning methods are all instincts and stamina. He can go on for hours and hours reading the game and getting the ball back. 

Baka was also good at this at Monaco, but again far behind Kante. 

Edited October 30, 20178 yr by Slojo

49 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

Ok, @ashwin If that's how you see it.  To me, "running around in a headless-chicken style" is the ultimate in offensive comments about a players style.

 

46 minutes ago, Stim said:

If there was method to the madness then the chicken would surely not be headless? The whole headless part of the analogy is to describe the act as being brainless or careless 

What a discussion I would have used the word "apparent" before "headless chicken" to remove all confusion. It's an interesting way to describe how frantic his movement is (better than there were 7 Kantes on the pitch) ... but a poor way to describe his decision making (agree, this would be the purest interpretation of the phrase). Depends on the intention and how you want to interpret the phrase. I thought it was quite clear in context. 

Still, a trivial statement not worthy of this much discussion!

1 hour ago, ashwin said:

 

What a discussion I would have used the word "apparent" before "headless chicken" to remove all confusion. It's an interesting way to describe how frantic his movement is (better than there were 7 Kantes on the pitch) ... but a poor way to describe his decision making (agree, this would be the purest interpretation of the phrase). Depends on the intention and how you want to interpret the phrase. I thought it was quite clear in context. 

Still, a trivial statement not worthy of this much discussion!

I think it might be a possible language issue.  To a native English speaker, there is no positive connotation or interpretation that can be placed on accusing someone of running around "like a headless chicken".  It may be in other cultures that the interpretation you and your friend place on the phrase is not so condemnatory.  I'll leave it at that with you, @ashwin , as we usually get along fine.

The other bloke is a right tit, though, and I think you might have been over-generous in giving the benefit of the doubt.

10 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

I think it might be a possible language issue.  To a native English speaker, there is no positive connotation or interpretation that can be placed on accusing someone of running around "like a headless chicken".  It may be in other cultures that the interpretation you and your friend place on the phrase is not so condemnatory.  @ashwin

True... That wouldn't be how I would use it but I can imagine others using it without completely understanding the general usage of the phrase.

12 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

@ashwin

The other bloke is a right tit, though, and I think you might have been over-generous in giving the benefit of the doubt.

 

Perhaps but I hope I haven't though!

9 hours ago, Valerie said:

Hopefully that is tongue in cheek. 

It was. I don't think he's playing or has played particularly well so far, but seeing as we have absolutely no credible replacements at the moment then I hope he stays and improves for his spot.

I'm hoping that Kante and Drinkwater will eventually form a really good partnership a la Leicester days.

7 hours ago, ashwin said:

(better than there were 7 Kantes on the pitch)

This is my analogy and therefore the best one. None of this chicken nonsense! It also leads itself to a 10 men went to mow remix: 

1 Kante called N’Golo (N’Golo!) went to win the ball back...

I’ll get my coat. 

Headless chicken was probably a poor choice of words but @didierforever's intentions were right. Even Makelele himself has gone on record and said that Kante needs to calm down with his excessive running and rely on reading the game more.

Oh, damn, it was all about Kante... I mean headless chicken stuff. :D  Anyway... I'm not impressed as well but we should never forget that this player was forced to return. He was injured and we were running out of options, what do you expect? Given that and his partner for last few games, he wasn't that bad. Yes, with Fabregas was bad but who would't be right now, tell me? I bet Modric, Kroos and Thiago would look exactly the same way playing along Cesc. Let's give him some time. He's got really good speed, strength and dribbling skills. Thats a good base, very similar to what Pogba's got. Antonio can turn this player into a machine. 

Edited October 31, 20178 yr by Pendergast

Christ on a bike, shut the f**k up and talk about Bakayoko.

You want to let it go Ossie.  The bloke is always playing the racist card when he gets called out for just being a twat. He's got history.  Bang the f**ker on ignore and get on with the rest of the decent forum members.

 

I'm sure that @coco is keeping a watching brief :)

I know - he accused me of racism when he was looking like a tit during a football "discussion".  I stuck him straight on ignore then and mostly keep it that way.

f**king idiot to say Kante is like a headless chicken, and then to bluster when he's called out on it.  Still, he watches a lot of football on the telly, so what do I know, eh?

Gotta love that ignore button :)

I'm not entirely sure what sparked this off again, if it was the remark "London based member" i can see why people are jumping onto it, taking into consideration previous history. But it's not what i would consider racism per se.

@didierforever maybe choose your words a little better ?

f**king hell, thought I was going to see some discussion about his performance at the weekend in this thread, silly me. 

1 minute ago, RMCM said:

f**king hell, thought I was going to see some discussion about his performance at the weekend in this thread, silly me. 

You are correct.

So lets do it.

What you think of his Blue hair ?

Has any Chelsea player ever took to the field with Blue hair before ? I can't ever remember one.

Just now, coco said:

You are correct.

So lets do it.

What you think of his Blue hair ?

Has any Chelsea player ever took to the field with Blue hair before ? I can't ever remember one.

Well previously he looked like a pint of Guinness, I can't tell which is more absurd, but i suppose at least he's embracing the club fully. I can't recall anyone else ever dying their hair blue in the Chelsea side, but i suppose it had to start somewhere. As long as he doesn't start dabbing I think we'll be fine

4 minutes ago, coco said:

You are correct.

So lets do it.

What you think of his Blue hair ?

Has any Chelsea player ever took to the field with Blue hair before ? I can't ever remember one.

Shoulda done the beard as well!  Or a whole body Smurf-job.  Then he'd be able to crawl through a small keyhole (or a smokey hole, I was never sure which!)

Baka Smurf 

You wanna let it go, now, mate

Ignore and move on :)

On October 30, 2017 at 04:20, didierforever said:

Given how poor our midfield has looked, and the way we have been leaking goals at times this season, I would say Matic was not at all "bad" defensively, specially last season.

If anything, Matic's positioning complimented Kante's headless chicken style of play. He cut out the passing lines and severely went under the radar. Yes, on the ball, he could be sloppy as hell, but given how good we were defensively at times last season and compare it to this season, I would say matic has got redemption. 

I actually didn't feel we were that great defensively last season save for the 13 game winning run.

Edited October 31, 20178 yr by Argo

I think Bakayoko has done faily well for what he's asked to do.  He wins the ball back and has shown better technical skill than I thought he had.  He is prone to an error, which has led to goals, so I understand where some of it is coming from.  No one is going to be perfect and mistakes will happen, but if he just cuts it down a bit we will have a very tidy young player on our hands...

4 hours ago, coco said:

You are correct.

So lets do it.

What you think of his Blue hair ?

Has any Chelsea player ever took to the field with Blue hair before ? I can't ever remember one.

I love you Coco 

6 hours ago, Zeta said:

Christ on a bike, shut the f**k up and talk about Bakayoko.

After tonight I would rather forget all about him to be honest.

He must work on his passing ability, sometimes he moves the ball without seeing his teammate. Can't really blame him after our loss to Roma, the team has looked poor in the second half and he's got the wrong partner in the central. He can't take the risk and dribble forward because he doesn't have the player that will cover his area. With Kante, we're going to see a much better Bakayoko.